Moderators please look into this-- Popular threads hitting the 4th page within 24 hrs
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I'd like to see a 3 month membership + 100 post count requirement, it's low enough that it wouldn't prevent serious sellers from offering their services but high enough to make it too big of a hassle for scammers and it can be automated with a simple vbulletin plugin so the mods don't increase their workload. Also, it probably wouldn't hurt to have a few more mods in the BST, at least 3 more.
New providers are opening multiple services.Just after registering they opened nearly five new threads and exchange itraders with their other accounts and scam the people.This is become common these days.
Increasing post count to open a service thread is giving some temporary solution to this problem.
Another solution will be their first BST thread have to be moderated,once it is live they can open other service threads is another solution to this.
Another important one ,if buyers doesn't respond to new providers,if they don't have any itrader or reviews from decent itraded buyers.New sellers automatically giving review copies,That too once a buyer bought from him,others must wait to see the reviews,whether he is delivering or not.rather than buying from him as a whole because, it is cheap price and filing disputes and complaining about OP later.
Increasing post count to open a service thread is giving some temporary solution to this problem.
Another solution will be their first BST thread have to be moderated,once it is live they can open other service threads is another solution to this.
Another important one ,if buyers doesn't respond to new providers,if they don't have any itrader or reviews from decent itraded buyers.New sellers automatically giving review copies,That too once a buyer bought from him,others must wait to see the reviews,whether he is delivering or not.rather than buying from him as a whole because, it is cheap price and filing disputes and complaining about OP later.
Increasing post count would backfire soon. You will end up seeing too many BS threads and replies in shooting the shit.
Make them pay and make it reasonable..
There are providers who provide services at lower end (less than $10) and there are some who charge more than $150 for a base package. If you charge $10 from everyone, the low end providers who provide services without any bells and whistles are going to be affected more. And it will affect buyers who are more interested in these services (someone ordering a spun article or just some SB etc).
Charge a one time fee, but charge it as a percentage of what their service costs or their average package price. Say, if I offer 3 packages in a thread $6, $60 and $120 then the average package price will be 62. So charge then $6.2.
This will force the providers to
- either reduce the price on packages
- or bring in more packages to make the average cost less
- or provide higher packages with more quality to recoup the amount they pay.
Just couple of my 2 cents.
Make them pay and make it reasonable..
There are providers who provide services at lower end (less than $10) and there are some who charge more than $150 for a base package. If you charge $10 from everyone, the low end providers who provide services without any bells and whistles are going to be affected more. And it will affect buyers who are more interested in these services (someone ordering a spun article or just some SB etc).
Charge a one time fee, but charge it as a percentage of what their service costs or their average package price. Say, if I offer 3 packages in a thread $6, $60 and $120 then the average package price will be 62. So charge then $6.2.
This will force the providers to
- either reduce the price on packages
- or bring in more packages to make the average cost less
- or provide higher packages with more quality to recoup the amount they pay.
Just couple of my 2 cents.
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Well I think that there are different types of sellers.
I'm new around here, and yesterday I spent around half a day setting up a sales thread specifically for WickedFire, along with a website where you could easily choose the package options so you don't have to go through the pain of having to deal with PMs and all that bad stuff. I've also set up a Live Support system on that website, so buyers could easily get in touch with me.
After all that time spent, my thread didn't got approved (or at least not yet).
I can see several threads with 3 lines of text that are accepted. My sales thread had every little detail specified, a website dedicated to buying the server and a support system, and it didn't get accepted.
What should I do to be able to make business with you guys? Should I come back when I have more posts? But does my post count really matter? My service is top-notch if I have 1 posts or 1M posts.
I'm new around here, and yesterday I spent around half a day setting up a sales thread specifically for WickedFire, along with a website where you could easily choose the package options so you don't have to go through the pain of having to deal with PMs and all that bad stuff. I've also set up a Live Support system on that website, so buyers could easily get in touch with me.
After all that time spent, my thread didn't got approved (or at least not yet).
I can see several threads with 3 lines of text that are accepted. My sales thread had every little detail specified, a website dedicated to buying the server and a support system, and it didn't get accepted.
What should I do to be able to make business with you guys? Should I come back when I have more posts? But does my post count really matter? My service is top-notch if I have 1 posts or 1M posts.
Take some small fee like 10-30 $ per thread or 100 post count requirement.
taking lil money for each thread is the best option as it will prevent newbies to make thread again and again.
taking lil money for each thread is the best option as it will prevent newbies to make thread again and again.
Exactly, or make it 100 Posts + 30$ Initial Fee or something, this is awful, my new BST thread went to page 3 just 8 hours after the last post in it!
There are a lot of people offering the same re-hashed services over and over - Senuke Blasts or Forum Profiles.
Personally, if a thread is good, then it will stay at the top..
But, what I think you should do is charge $20 for submission fee and then provide a review copy to a Mod free of charge and then that mod leaves a review on the thread so others can see.
This will add confidence to people who are going to buy that particular service and maybe you can pay an additional $10 to bump your thread to the top or something
But, what I think you should do is charge $20 for submission fee and then provide a review copy to a Mod free of charge and then that mod leaves a review on the thread so others can see.
This will add confidence to people who are going to buy that particular service and maybe you can pay an additional $10 to bump your thread to the top or something
The fuck do you think this is? WaFo? A cost to bump?
This is why I'm opposed to paying anything at all in regards to it. It'll still get abused and then after that it'll result in "pay per bump" or something stupid (not saying it would end up like that here, but someone would bring it up as the "next logical step" etc).
I stand behind my post count point. And I honestly would like to see why people don't think that it'd work. I think it's a hell of a lot better than the other ideas, and doesn't open up WF to chargebacks from random people where the thread doesn't go over nearly as well as they thought, which leads to more management from them.
I highly doubt someone would get to 100 posts with "great post thkx" without one single report, imo.
I can absolutely guarantee the admins here are not going to want to deal with paying for shit to be posted in the BST. Mods have no control over that, and it would just be a liability and a new source of bitching for the admins.
Hold up, "if a thread is good, then it will stay at the top..." AND "you can pay an additional $10 to bump your thread to the top or something," makes a LOT of sense.
I see why you're a PRO at building backlinks, your rationale is very sound.
Look, WF is not WaFo. We don't tolerate sheeple or people who encourage people that are trying to make people sheeple here.
I'll break this down for you, so lay out the plastic wrap in your room because I'm about to blow your mind and I don't want your mom to come down into her basement and freak out because she has to clean up the mess.
WaFo doesn't have higher quality services and cut down on shitty scammers with shitty services because they charge an entrance fee and per-bump fee. They tell people that as their reason because they know their sheeple and reputable members will back them up when challenged, all the while making major bank for the forum's owner.
Don't believe me? Within the last several months they doubled the price to post a WSO and the cost to bump and the only thing it's improved is the doubling of the owner's bankroll and spending money he can use to stuff dollar bills into his mod's and reputable member's panties as they blow him off.
The point being, scammers and shitty providers will continue to be an issue as long as they can easily recover the cost of entrance. Charging for entrance and bumping only hurts startups who have something of value to offer.
Agreed.. !! No roach can go that far without a Ban Hammer. It would be good to increase the post count than a Fee. I vouch you for your opinion. :rasta:
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