Moderators please look into this-- Popular threads hitting the 4th page within 24 hrs

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I agree.

I remember 6 months back, there were only good service providers.

From last 1 month, I have been closely watching links sale section where a new thread pops up in every 5 mins.

Minimum 150 posts would be a great step.
 


nmridul said:
Increasing post count would backfire soon. You will end up seeing too many BS threads and replies in shooting the shit.

Make them pay and make it reasonable..

There are providers who provide services at lower end (less than $10) and there are some who charge more than $150 for a base package. If you charge $10 from everyone, the low end providers who provide services without any bells and whistles are going to be affected more. And it will affect buyers who are more interested in these services (someone ordering a spun article or just some SB etc).

Charge a one time fee, but charge it as a percentage of what their service costs or their average package price. Say, if I offer 3 packages in a thread $6, $60 and $120 then the average package price will be 62. So charge then $6.2.

This will force the providers to
- either reduce the price on packages
- or bring in more packages to make the average cost less
- or provide higher packages with more quality to recoup the amount they pay.

Just couple of my 2 cents.
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Great idea i completely agree with you.
 
I suggest also to make 2 sections one section for new sellers and the other for strong super sellers who are known well and trusted in wf, and for the new seller section they have to pay $$ in the 1st time they join.
 
Honestly, I wouldn't worry to much about it. Are there shit sellers on here, sure... Will a $10 fee stop shit sellers hawking their service - NO. The same threads pop up on various boards from time to time. And one in particular increased their fee... And the end result was little if no change. Because even at $10, that isn't going to stop someone if they know they can put up some crap offering, and either never complete the work and disappear or generally provide a crap service. They still make 10 times their $10 "investment."

Seriously though, if you have to cry about you not getting a customer for a day. You probably are going to be short lived. Instead give your customers added value, give them a reason to tout how great your service is. Not everyone is going to leave a review, yeah I know.

i.e. - Jr SCi : spring for an indexing service for your first tier blogs or whatever you're doing. Things like that. When your customers know they are getting an extra value. And see "oh hey I just purchased xyz. and a lot of my properties are index" .. That's what is going to set you apart ;)
 
glemoh said:
I suggest also to make 2 sections one section for new sellers and the other for strong super sellers who are known well and trusted in wf, and for the new seller section they have to pay $$ in the 1st time they join.
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I am fully agreed with your comments.
 
Yeah, there is too much shit sellers and cheater, now i only search 4 or 5 starts sale thread and only deal with the guy who have 20+ itraders .
 
really, the moderators should do something about it. the best thing i think it's to increase the post count.
 
 
Sorry to get a bit Offtopic, but since soulravager mentioned my thread in his rant, I kinda feel obligated to respond. I just started my service thread today and it's not really fair to judge or render any service as "useless" without a rational motive or constructive criticism, though I can understand your frustration.

Unfortunately, you can't edit old threads to update your services/offers, if I could've done that, don't you think I would've? I can guarantee you, that I won't create any new threads "over and over and over again", or bump my thread repeatedly, just for the sake of being on Page 1 in the BST. I didn't do that with my "old" thread, nor will I start doing this with my new thread.

Well, I just wanted to give a quick reply to your beforementioned statement, which I did and now: back to topic.

BHW, for instance, requires the sellers to have an active donor status, a valuable background in terms of reputation, posts and join date and on top of that you have to pay an initial fee (20$) to start your thread in the BST Section. Though this excludes the concept of a free market, it ensures quality and structure.
 
Hey

Your service is okay, but look at all the others...

What I am saying is there should be a quota on Xrumer/SB/Forum Profile services or something like that.

BHW doesnt allow dublicate services...
 
mrmeotz said:
Though this excludes the concept of a free market, it ensures quality and structure.
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do you really think Black Hat World, Warriorforum, DP, Backlinksforum, etc actually have better BST sections than here because of the entrance fee?

The only thing I might agree with is post count limits, but everything else is

1) overkill
2) not something the admins are going to take the time to setup

Do you really think you're going to see Jon collecting his $10 payments from each BST vendor here everyday?
 
I concur completely, though this would mean that a lot of potentially great services will be excluded by terms of restrictions. I think a fee for each new BST Thread (no duplicates of course) will eliminate the flood of new services that look surprisingly similiar each time (Hello, India..), as no one likes to pay 30$ each time they create a new thread. Throw in some strict regulations, like bumping threads only for responses and/or changes in the service (price, quantitiy, etc.), no fishy reviews (i.e. only MOD approved threads) + clear reputational requirements for the sellers (posts, itrader or w/e). Ongoing violations of the restrictions will result in the elimination of the thread from the BST and no future option to create a new one, i.e. strike three, you're out!
 
mrmeotz said:
I concur completely, though this would mean that a lot of potentially great services will be excluded by terms of restrictions. I think a fee for each new BST Thread (no duplicates of course) will eliminate the flood of new services that look surprisingly similiar each time (Hello, India..), as no one likes to pay 30$ each time they create a new thread. Throw in some strict regulations, like bumping threads only for responses and/or changes in the service (price, quantitiy, etc.), no fishy reviews (i.e. Mod approved threads) + clear reputational requirements for the sellers (posts, itrader or w/e). Ongoing violations of the restrictions will result in the elimination of the thread from the BST and no future option to create a new one, i.e. strike three, you're out!
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I honestly disagree. I don't think they'll have an issue paying $10 considering they can just charge it back.

However, posting 100-200 times on WF without getting banned truly is a good way to weed out dead weight and make sure before someone offers a service they realize what WF is really about.
 
Yea I agree with Bof2u, the best method is to set a post limit to at least 100 posts...

Shit loads of philipinos offering Senuke Campaigns for 5$ and make 3-5 threads.
 
soulravager said:
Yea I agree with Bof2u, the best method is to set a post limit to at least 100 posts...

Shit loads of philipinos offering Senuke Campaigns for 5$ and make 3-5 threads.
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I am not arguing but just wanted to point this out. You mentioned my service above was "useless". But I have got over 10 purchases in the first day from it..?

Everyone has got to start somewhere. You cannot call someones post useless just because they have a low reputation when posting it. I am sure you had a low rep as well at the beginning, right? Again, no offence intended. Please do not get offended, but just take a look and think.

You said my thread was being posted again and again but that is not the case. I only posted it once for your information so next time, please get your facts right before posting.
 
linkpro said:
I am not arguing but just wanted to point this out. You mentioned my service above was "useless". But I have got over 10 purchases in the first day from it..?

Everyone has got to start somewhere. You cannot call someones post useless just because they have a low reputation when posting it. I am sure you had a low rep as well at the beginning, right? Again, no offence intended. Please do not get offended, but just take a look and think.

You said my thread was being posted again and again but that is not the case. I only posted it once for your information so next time, please get your facts right before posting.
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I'm not denying everyone has to start somewhere, but my point is that I'd rather them start at 100+. That's just my point.
 
mrmeotz said:
I concur completely, though this would mean that a lot of potentially great services will be excluded by terms of restrictions. I think a fee for each new BST Thread (no duplicates of course) will eliminate the flood of new services that look surprisingly similiar each time (Hello, India..), as no one likes to pay 30$ each time they create a new thread. Throw in some strict regulations, like bumping threads only for responses and/or changes in the service (price, quantitiy, etc.), no fishy reviews (i.e. only MOD approved threads) + clear reputational requirements for the sellers (posts, itrader or w/e). Ongoing violations of the restrictions will result in the elimination of the thread from the BST and no future option to create a new one, i.e. strike three, you're out!
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Fees for threads are simply not going to happen, I don't understand why this needs to be repeated so much.

Vendors should have to have at least 100 posts like Bofu has said. You should not be allowed to sell to a community you haven't already contributed to. The other half of it is we all need to step up our idiot crushing game to keep the bar high so that we don't see hundreds of "this is a really great thread thx!" posts just to get to the limits.
 
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