CLOSED THREADS.. READ HERE

[absolute]

I'll just wait and see what happens. The way it's set up now the SBT section will not work.

1. No way to sort by # of replies/views.
2. No way to follow up on bookmarked threads.
3. Practically no way to tell if a provider has good history here. Good luck going through 3-20 different threads just to check out the testimonials, any problems with late delivery, etc. This pretty much gives a get-out-of-jail free card to every provider who fucks up often (late delivery, shit quality of work...).
4. Managing new thread posting/payment every 10 days will be a giant pita for every seller. Also no way to build up long term reputation (wafo works well without long term sellers so this might not be a problem for some).
5. Makes it easier for serial review beggars to... continue doing what they do.
6. Not sure how mods (Zingo) will handle banning of reported sellers as now he'll have to go through multiple threads to figure out wtf is going on.
7. Providers bitching when threads don't get approved on time and clients cancel cause they get scared and shit. Yea good luck everyone with PP disputes and all that.

...and like a dozen other problems. WF is still awesome.

I think a simple fee to open a thread OR a monthly subscription to keep a thread open would have been a better choice. Simpler to implement and a lot less confusing. You could simply charge $36*3 a month to collect the same amount of $$$.

 

[cathy rydu]

Agreed this .

Please kindly take step against which threads are still active.whats the reason behind that ?

We faced more problem.

I've one question about this whole situation.

How come there are still active threads in the marketplace? As far as I know the payment option is not working right now, still there are many threads opened after 10-16-2011 are still active and working.

And one proposition, why don't you first start with people like this one:

http://www.wickedfire.com/search.php?searchid=3724685

He has opened numerous threads about the same freaking thing, and many of us are trying to build a business here, talking with clients and delivering as much as we can in both quality and attention, not messing around with other people's threads, STILL our threads are closed and we are starting to have problems with clients, while he has LIVE thread.

Please do inform us via PM when there's more clarity on the recent events, as it turned out a huge mess up to this point.

I admire the admin for taking the decision, yet it didn't roll out smoothly at all.

Kind Regards,
Mr.Profit

 

[Bofu2U]

Most of us depends on returning buyers so if a buyer finds a closed threads he/she will think oh it must be closed because the seller is scammer

Just woke up to this on Skype:

quik ?
when active threads close
but no OP ban is that Zingo's doing
or bad service by OP...? any idea-

I'm assuming I'll get more before the day's over.

Oh and +1 for the 10 day thing being retarded. It basically gives people the option to scam people on a thread, and in 10 days it disappears because now I have a new one (AND if I scam them PAST the 10 days, chances are those people (especially lurkers) won't find my new thread and they can't comment because it's locked).

But you know, just my 2 cents.

(PS - I'm more than happy to pay the $36/month or whatever it is per ACTIVE thread I own in the BST. More than happy. Just none of this closing it down, pay for ANOTHER one bs. Plenty of people sort the BST by post count, view count, etc - and I'm glad that I worked enough on it to be in the first view for it. If the new thread goes into effect, NO ONE will EVER be able to break into that. Just saying.)

 

[bbleo]

I ordered a Blog Posts package, the Guy is making late, don't know if he will deliver or not. Where should I write about his late ? His thread is closed.

There are many buyers like me who are affected due to close threads.

Jon! You having answer to this?

 

[cash202]

It's amazing how admins managed to piss off both legit sellers and legit buyers with this closed thread $36 per fortnight nonsense.

 

[seomasterman1]

Ugh, I am extremely sad about this... I certainly don't mind paying, but at a frequency of 36$ every 10 days, that seems a bit off... I was all for paying 20-30$ for an unlimited time-frame thread... Isnt that what BHW and Warrior Forum does?

For the sake of making the community grow larger, why would you want $36.00 every 10 days? Theres people here who can certainly pay the 36$, however, both of my services are low ticket items.

 

[eliquid]

Stupid move on the way this was done.

Fuck it, I'll just create a HUGE fucking banner like everyone else, put it in my sig, wrote tons of posts on the forum to get eyeballs to my sig, then have all my reviews and ordering info on my own website and bypass all this 10 day bullshit to begin with.

How stupid.

 

[butcher]

Not liking this, fair play for charging a fee to clean up the forum but closing threads is going to be a nightmare. I bookmark all services I use and this will confuse the shit out of me. Not sure my some people have had their threads re-opened though?

 

[IMHopeful]

I must say, the sentiment was good here with enforcing payment for new threads, but holy fuck that was piss poor execution. I don't really give a shit because my livelihood doesn't depend on my threads in the BST, however:

1) closing all active threads was fucking stupid (because new threads need to be paid for anyway, so any noise would naturally taper off over time)

2) closing all threads after 10 days is fucking stupid. It's going to create more work for the admins over time, and the admins don't give a fuck anymore, so it's going to be neglected.

I don't know, I've been around here for a while, I've posted a shit ton here before, the BST is only a small percentage of why I'm here. But my god, what a fuck up.

This is something more than what we have asked for. As a seller, it will be hard to maintain new service threads everytime. Taking care of payments every 10 days is again tedious. As a buyer, you will loose track of your favourite services as we often tend to subscribe to our favorite threads.

A decent start up fee for a service would have fulfilled the cause. If not a start-up fee, make it a monthly subscription rather than paying every 10 days. Let us continue with the same service thread. I was wondering, if the admins can make it simple and yet effective for all of us.

It might also raise the cost of services as service providers can always manipulate the price. There's a lot of uncertainty for a service thread that's valid for just 10 days. This is gonna raise the price so that the sellers can earn back the profit from the first 2-3 client every 10 days. This will be real bad for the buyers. No more $4 Social bookmarking, price is gonna rise. Just saying.....

We all want to resume our business. It's better if we come up with a clear decision at the earliest, mentioning all the payment info (where to make the payment, how much) etc.. Will see how this discussion goes.

I fully agree that 10 days and then thread closes is not going to work. It can take multiple days to get reviews back then the thread will close.

I think 30 - 45 days would be enough time for the member to get things rolling and then they could link back to the old thread for previous review, they could also quote previous reviews in new thread.

Also there are services outside of the Links and SEO area such as the general BST area and content area that are very useful and will no longer be able to thrive due to the quick locking of thread the ROI is not there. It would suck to lose some of these and add value here to a lot of people.

This is just my 2 cents, I do not make the high level decisions here I just try to keep order and help the providers as best I can.

I hope the 10 days will be reevaluated, change is never easy.

Just increasing the live post days to 30 - 45 would be an easy fix and everyone could move on with there biz.

I agree with almost everybody in this thread. If you charge less than a $100 per service, it will be hard to make money. Hopefully some adjustments can be made, to accommodate the little guys who take care of their clients here.

I'm not venting at the admin though -- there are a lot of people (sellers and buyers) who've been begging WF to take their money, thinking this new model would present a solution for everyone. Now you have all recieved your wish, so get ready to pay for it. The often-talked-about review concept is gone, no existing threads that show comments about services to help make buying decisions -- You all wanted cut-throat and you got it.

 

[omgyams]

So anything being done to prepare for the onslaught of PM spam that will result from this? The low end providers that re-create account after account will simply change tactics.

more to the point add a WTB section which should be free, as most people won't want to pay unless they know they will get a result.

also 10 days is too short. Would be happy to pay more for longer.

Where the fuck have you been? I thought you died or some shit. PM me.

 

[SEO_WAN]

I am very much disappointed like the others but what can we do,i believe that before the implementation of such a rule,there should be a small discussion about the topic.

 

[Hav3n]

Pretty new seller here (and know they don't owe me anything).

But i'd also like to throw my $0.02 in here and say that I think the 10 day thing is a huge hassle and hurtful to buyers and sellers.

For sellers it is a efficiency issue. New payment every 10 days. New thread. Reposting all that shit + reviews now need to be reposted. Answering the same damn questions every 10 days.

For buyers it is a way to be scammed. Work takes longer than 10 days? You're fucked. Take it to PMs. Talk about a thread shitting issue. No way to bookmark threads you know youre going to use over and over again.

TL;DR: "U did WUT?!"

 

[Jingo]

Stupid move on the way this was done.

Fuck it, I'll just create a HUGE fucking banner like everyone else, put it in my sig, wrote tons of posts on the forum to get eyeballs to my sig, then have all my reviews and ordering info on my own website and bypass all this 10 day bullshit to begin with.

How stupid.

Um ... yea .. I ain't planning on going to 20 different providers website and check their posts on a regular basis.

Jon.... just the way it was plus 100 USD a month rental for a thread... that would really work...

 

[capone2009]

What I thought the $20-30 would be a one time fee for each thread and it would take around 10 days to get approved by an admin and then it wouldn't get closed anymore.

The free BST section here was very unique for WF and if I think about people that offer bookmarks for $2 or so they would have to work their ass off just to pay for the listing, that makes no sense at all..

 

[seomasterman1]

Extremely upset about this... I hope all of our "protesting" really makes this whole thing change... I wouldn't mind paying, $20, $30, hell upwards of 75$ for a thread; but I'd expect it to be a lifetime or atleast, yearly.

 

[davidb]

^^ exactly this just happened to me, semi-regular client thought I went out of business and wanted to cancel/refund. We sorted it out, but this is gonna be an issue down the road.

All you people with quality services that have past customers should have or be setting up ways for past customers to contact you and reorder.

List your Skype account, setup a separate website, whatever. Use BST to generate new customers, but do not solely rely on it for repeat business. Whatever the final decision is with respect to BST, You Should Be Doing This. Make it easy for your previous customers to get in contact with you and order your services again, as needed.

 

[omgyams]

haha didn't notice this before

 

[pixelgraffiti]

All you people with quality services that have past customers should have or be setting up ways for past customers to contact you and reorder.

List your Skype account, setup a separate website, whatever. Use BST to generate new customers, but do not solely rely on it for repeat business. Whatever the final decision is with respect to BST, You Should Be Doing This. Make it easy for your previous customers to get in contact with you and order your services again, as needed.

Exactly. Once you land a new client you should not continue to use the boards as your form of contact. You have now established a new relationship and should really have setup communication through your own portal. ie. skype,email

 

[netguru88]

1. The $36 per 10 days charge would be a big cut on the monthly income on all sellers. Even if some of us make around $1000 a month on about 2-3 threads, a maintenance fee of $200-300 on all the threads monthly would be a huge cut.

2. Another hassle is the 10 day period wherein you need to create a new thread every ten days! Why can't we just keep our old threads?!

Suggestions:

1. Lower down on the prices! Why can't you just come up with a monthly $36 subscription to get our threads opened. Or perhaps a big $75 (bigger that Warrior) one time thread registration fee? I'd still go for it!

2. Admin both we as sellers and you need our original threads so that there would be no more extra work to be done. Imagine hundreds of sellers creating new threads every ten days to be approved by you guys. The scale of the work would be tremendous!

Overall, I would go for a one-time huge $70 and up registration fee per thread. I mean it would drastically diminish those potential scammers and wannabees using the Wickedfire buy and sell area as their "free classified ads" and would also be of great help to those who are already making money selling their services here.

If the WF buy and sell forums would be upgraded to fully paid status. Please don't charge too much.

 

[zingo]

DO NOT PM ME ABOUT ANYTHING TO DO WITH PAYMENTS, THE ADMINS NEED TO BE CONTACTED REGARDING THIS