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I think this solution will solve all problems.

1. Pay per thread.

and

2. Pay per bump.

Implement both of them, and allow sellers to edit the first post. Pay per bump prevents sellers from asking buyers to "post transaction ID to verify" and "post for coupon" as a mean to bump their thread. Pay per thread approved is more of an application fee. You pay, you submit your thread, you give reviews and you're live, no manual work here on admin's part and if sellers do something against the forum rules, they just lost the application fee. zingo bans.

My 2 cents.
 
Just make it $36 monthly and let threads say alive as long as they are paid up. (Re-activate old threads as long as they are on the paid recurring contract)

Everything else should stay the same. Paying per bump is going to reduce the traffic here by 10 fold, look at what happened to BLF.

I know I sent you guys $72 already and just want my old thread back up, no point in re posting every 10 days or ever for that matter. Its just going to lead to more manipulation and headaches for the staff.
 
I think it's a good move to charge a fee, despite the fact that it will cost me money.

For me I would charge a one off fee of $30 and then $5 a bump, and you can only bump once every 24 or 48 hours.
 
With so many options to consider from, any chance to just create a Public Poll for this ?
May be :
option no 1 : 1 time fee $36 and Thread goes live.
option no 2 : 1 time fee $36 with bumping fee $36 and Thread goes live.
option no 3 : Monthly fee + 1 time fee $36 and Thread goes live.
etc....
 
botwiz said:
Everything else should stay the same. Paying per bump is going to reduce the traffic here by 10 fold, look at what happened to BLF.
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I don't think BLF lost traffic because of the pay per bump model, the community just suck and have shit management. They also inflated their traffic by having a longer cache and bot traffic. The other WF is an example of pay per bump executed successfully.

Right now sellers are making buyers make unnecessary posts in their threads to bump it and I think that needs to be fixed. Perhaps a higher one-time fee like $50/thread and then $10 to bump would make everybody happy instead of the thread closes every 10 days?

[*sucking up part]
W/e it is I respect Jon's decision. A lot of sellers have made a lot of money off of the free traffic that this forum provides, while it was good while it lasted Jon owes nobody nothing and can do w/e his heart pleases. He's made nothing off of you guys 5 figure monthly business for a long time now, $36 is definitely called for.
 
Imo, best option would be $36 fee, and that's it, no more payments, no bump payments. This is really gona hit people doing stuff like $0.50 social bookmarking. (although I'd much prefer Jon putting ads, even popunders on wickedfire to this)

[although I know it's Jon's decision and his forum, and can do whatever he wants with it]
 
-joe- said:
Imo, best option would be $36 fee, and that's it, no more payments, no bump payments. This is really gona hit people doing stuff like $0.50 social bookmarking. (although I'd much prefer Jon putting ads, even popunders on wickedfire to this)

[although I know it's Jon's decision and his forum, and can do whatever he wants with it]
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^^^^^^^^^
 
Had a more manageable idea I think plus it will give a quick influx of cash.

Keep threads open permanently but you have to subscribe at $97 a month. As someone cancels (you get a notification from paypal so it's easy to manage) you close their thread.

This way there are less payments to manage and it will deter dodgy sellers while allowing buyers to find their favorite offers.

Seems like a good compromise to me.
 
I wonder if google one day decides to do pay per search just to improve the quality of searches and provide more to people on adsense and adwords (keeping quality searches in mind and quality leads)etc. It would help them get more dough on the table but would it improve the companies image or do otherwise ? Making things paid is not the only solution to solve spams or shitty threads on BST.

One asks for traffic and more members on the forum, but with it problems arises and it has to be dealt. But dealing with capitalism is just not right.

Just saying.. your word is the last and it should be followed no matter what..
 
Joe_Hughes said:
Had a more manageable idea I think plus it will give a quick influx of cash.

Keep threads open permanently but you have to subscribe at $97 a month. As someone cancels (you get a notification from paypal so it's easy to manage) you close their thread.

This way there are less payments to manage and it will deter dodgy sellers while allowing buyers to find their favorite offers.

Seems like a good compromise to me.
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iSupport!
 
Ok! I think it is great decision for quality control. But you (wickedfire authority) you have to consider fees! Because wicked fire is not in SERP ranking like warrior forum or Digital point forum. Also,Here quality discussion is getting lower day by day. So, If you don't reduce posting fee then you have to increase this forum quality, SERP ranking or quality traffic those who must buy something from saler. Otherwise, we have to move other place.

Tamim Adam
 
While it's all well and good for implementing this, and I heartily agree something like this should be done (Im tired of my thread getting fucking bogged down in about half an hour with crappy excuses for writers - they cant even spell/punctuate properly in their own threads!), I think the idea of high prices is wrong.

It's alright for you guys offering services that make serious money (talking 100+ dollars a day), but for other services such as my content writing, I don't make so much as you guys (not yet, anyway). I charge 18 dollars for 500 words, and that's about the highest price on here, and I doubt I could make enough to warrant paying what to me, is a large sum every week/month.

I agree with charging for the thread and that's that - no recurring fees etc. Jon seems to have managed just fine without this until now, and yes he should make some money, but not at the cost of me, and the people who charge less than me.

Just my thoughts.
 
I guess this will help me if I get room for more writing customers. No more high-quality at "bargain basement" pricing from me. $36 at a one-time + (maybe) a monthly fee makes sense -- but the current structure will definitely cut into profits.

I can't really believe this whole new deal is about quality control at this point.
 
i think they've been lucky that it's been free for this long. the good ones have already established partnerships with serious immers, and the shitty ones can go get fucked.
 
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tamimadam said:
Ok! I think it is great decision for quality control. But you (wickedfire authority) you have to consider fees! Because wicked fire is not in SERP ranking like warrior forum or Digital point forum. Also,Here quality discussion is getting lower day by day. So, If you don't reduce posting fee then you have to increase this forum quality, SERP ranking or quality traffic those who must buy something from saler. Otherwise, we have to move other place.

Tamim Adam
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Cya, watch the door on the way out, it swings hard.
 
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