WTF is up with the recent censorship here at WF?
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He didn't say $25 per order. He said $25. Hence the joke @ fiverr.
$5 an order... $25 total...
Dammit. 5 seconds too late.
And now back to our regularly scheduled clusterfuck.
This is my 6th post. I'm actually giving constructive criticism to this issue instead of trying to belittle others.
I heard Jon is going to make you an honorary forum moderator in return for all of your valuable insights.
This is Wickedfire bro. You know better than to act all serious over drama. If you don't, what the fuck have you been doing here for the last year?
It's just annoying because of how the dude acts, really. He tried doing the same shit to my BSTs as he did OTWU's, which got him banned. Erect's initial reasoning for locking his BST was because of what he did in the OTWU thread and trying to debut an offer that was too similar according to Erect, but that seemingly doesn't matter if he only has to change his username with the mod knowledge.
This topic has turned into a way to improve BST, and letting someone shit on other's BSTs to get them derailed or locked so he can come out with an almost identical offer doesn't fix anything.
It's nice to know you have an axe to grind. Puts things into context.
I know erect personally. I know a bunch of the mods on a personal level.
No offense to the other mods, but erect has the biggest fucking heart, and is one of the kindest people you will ever have the privilege of meeting at Wickedfire.
He cares a ton about this forum, and he knows what the relationships and information here have done to improve his life.
Even if he made a mistake, which I haven't couldn't give a shit less to care to discover or ascertain, it was definitely a mistake.
This dude has invested hundreds of hours of his life without pay to make Wickedfire great for all of the peasants with entitlement complexes and irrational social behavior. About making sure they can all have their little business run on here smoothly, and that vendors AND buyers get a fair shake.
For the thousand times erect has done right by the sad peasant motherfuckers at this forum who don't know what money is and how to handle it, this is how you treat him over a non-controversy.
You guys should seriously be fucking ashamed of yourselves and be more worried about making a buck than stirring up shit for a genuinely good person.
I know erect personally. I know a bunch of the mods on a personal level.
No offense to the other mods, but erect has the biggest fucking heart, and is one of the kindest people you will ever have the privilege of meeting at Wickedfire.
He cares a ton about this forum, and he knows what the relationships and information here have done to improve his life.
Even if he made a mistake, which I haven't couldn't give a shit less to care to discover or ascertain, it was definitely a mistake.
This dude has invested hundreds of hours of his life without pay to make Wickedfire great for all of the peasants with entitlement complexes and irrational social behavior. About making sure they can all have their little business run on here smoothly, and that vendors AND buyers get a fair shake.
For the thousand times erect has done right by the sad peasant motherfuckers at this forum who don't know what money is and how to handle it, this is how you treat him over a non-controversy.
You guys should seriously be fucking ashamed of yourselves and be more worried about making a buck than stirring up shit for a genuinely good person.
Pretty sure we've stated this is nothing personal against erect. I don't even know the guy.
I haven't an ax to grind with CB, he served his punishment when Zingo banned him for his stunts he tried to pull in my threads. That doesn't dismiss how one can circumvent bannable offenses by just switching usernames, all while informing mods of who you are. Defeats the purpose of having said rules, no?
I can't say I totally agree. I haven't sold anything on here recently, and don't have any plans to in the near future. But as a buyer, I'm not a fan of this. While there are plenty of Indian service providers offering crap from fiverr, there are some who offer a quality service that's good on price, as well. For example, the first couple that comes to mind is jr_sci & stevejobs. They both run a couple of the most popular threads in the BST. However, would things necessarily be that way if there was a $100 fee to list in the BST?
That's close to 2 weeks wages for a lot of people in India, that's a pretty big risk, especially when you take into account the money you'll have to set aside for general costs, and as something to dip into in case of refunds etc, and when it could make the difference between your family being able to eat.
There are plenty more providers from India, who provide valuable services, and who likely wouldn't have had the money to start doing business here if there'd been a $100 fee.
Guerilla, as much you want to stand up for Erect (which I respect) I also want to protect the integrity of BST (which I hope you can respect), because it's a place where I like to do business from to time. It's simply a matter of proper business, not this personal touchy-feely gay webmaster thing you just pulled.
Again, no problem with it, just sayin'. Business is business. If people think there's a problem, they're going to speak up. It's almost never the other way around. That's just the way of the world.
Again, no problem with it, just sayin'. Business is business. If people think there's a problem, they're going to speak up. It's almost never the other way around. That's just the way of the world.
Here is the thing musicman, erect and I both want to see the SBT in good shape, but it is a shithole not for whatever judgment calls erect has or has not made, but that Jon makes too much money doing other things, and he hasn't setup someone with an interest in the forum day to day, to run the forum day to day, who would take action to keep the quality level high.
I have almost completely stopped marketing in the SBT here after having two of the most successful service/product threads of all time, and arguably the most successful service which has ever participated at Wickedfire.
The problems with the SBT aren't what happened here today, and mixing the two is unfair to erect, and maybe Jon and Zingo too.
erect made a judgment call. It might be the wrong one. You guys certainly feel entitled to second guess, and you have. But let's not pretend this is a systemic thing, or the mods are out to screw you guys.
You don't like this marketplace, do what I did. Market and purchase elsewhere. That's the power you have as a consumer or a vendor. Vote with your feet.
But until Jon commits to making big changes, the SBT is going to be run by volunteer mods who make judgment calls you may or may not agree with. That is reality. And Jon does very well for himself, and isn't in a big rush to spend a lot of time catering to every petty need of people who want to buy link or content services. And as someone who also values time and opportunity, I don't blame him one bit.
Short version, you get the quality of market place you pay for, and all of you are here for free. Put up with the warts until things change or start a better one, but political action (taking to the streets, holding debates) ain't going to change shit where you have no political power or economic clout.
I have almost completely stopped marketing in the SBT here after having two of the most successful service/product threads of all time, and arguably the most successful service which has ever participated at Wickedfire.
The problems with the SBT aren't what happened here today, and mixing the two is unfair to erect, and maybe Jon and Zingo too.
erect made a judgment call. It might be the wrong one. You guys certainly feel entitled to second guess, and you have. But let's not pretend this is a systemic thing, or the mods are out to screw you guys.
You don't like this marketplace, do what I did. Market and purchase elsewhere. That's the power you have as a consumer or a vendor. Vote with your feet.
But until Jon commits to making big changes, the SBT is going to be run by volunteer mods who make judgment calls you may or may not agree with. That is reality. And Jon does very well for himself, and isn't in a big rush to spend a lot of time catering to every petty need of people who want to buy link or content services. And as someone who also values time and opportunity, I don't blame him one bit.
Short version, you get the quality of market place you pay for, and all of you are here for free. Put up with the warts until things change or start a better one, but political action (taking to the streets, holding debates) ain't going to change shit where you have no political power or economic clout.
Your argument is sound if WF should be a place where a service provider can start his career, but quite honestly, I think it should be considered the Big Leagues, where you launch your service/product once you've got things started at the other shitty forums around and have enough capital to even afford being here.
The point of BST isn't to make a quick buck, it's to tap into a thriving marketplace of successful Internet Marketers of all shapes and sizes. DP, BacklinksForum, and BHW are places you can hock shit for $5 until you raise enough bankroll to come play with the big boys here.
1. What the fuck is the point of any of this being public if no details are being divulged, like the seller's old and new username? What the fuck is the point of withholding this information at this point? Post it up for all to see.
2. I am officially proposing that you must sacrifice your 1st born child to WF before being allowed to post in BST.
2. I am officially proposing that you must sacrifice your 1st born child to WF before being allowed to post in BST.
As a recent buyer of some WF stuff. I agree 100%. Personally that's why I choose WF vendors.
Are you saying that since erect is a good person we should not be allowed to call him out if he does something wrong or makes a mistake? Because that's how I read your post.
+rep - I asked for this shit 2 years ago in "suggestions" but I guess only now the fundamentals are getting paved
@erect
LOL @ that so called business ( 1 day? ) + Remind me what rule?
And what to all those other poor bastards who didn't get this chance, not that I care / troll
You missed my point. There'd be no lack of "venture capitalists" willing to stake someone the $100 for a thread if they could prove (by giving a free review copy that actually worked) that their shit worked. There could even be a sticky thread in BST for it for fish and fishermen to congregate.
Jazzy names like Bulk Link Penetrator 2.1 (™. bishes) are cool and all but the reason people spend money is for results. Guys who have complete confidence in what they're bringing to the table would gladly run a free review copy for a chance to grab the hundred bucks. And if it was $100/month like Guerilla suggested, if their service was quality, they'd have no problem making that nut hereafter.