WTF is up with the recent censorship here at WF?

I thought this would be about the real shady stuff the mods pull for their buddies and service providers, not be a tldr squabble about a stupid bst rule.


that's what I was speaking on. I really did not care to read too deeply into this post.

They are banning competition is what I pretty much assumed.
 


Okay this is really confusing now... I can't sit here and read these weird posts and make a decision...

Eliquid.. you made allegations of a moderator taking sides for self interest/collusion with others and/or bribes.

If that's true, I want to see the proof.
If its not true, then I'm closing this thread after you apologize for alleging shit like that, because its not cool.

You don't have to agree with someone, but don't fuckin rile up the hornets nest just because you're pissed. Knock the shit outta him at the next show instead, its much more effective and provides major and much needed lulz here. ALLEGEDLY of course.
 
What I don't get is why this seller would need a new account to sell the same exact service that he already offered on his other account. Especially since Erect said the service was different enough from the other seller whom he thread-shat on months beforehand.

If his service was so different, then how could his thread-shitting even be considered thread-shitting in the first place?

But meh, whatever.

The bigger issue here is the whole idea of people being able to start fresh, instead of dealing with the consequences of their own actions. It sets a really bad standard. If you fuck up, no biggie, just talk to a moderator.

That being said, I am sure erect was just trying to keep the peace, but at what cost? A seller gets to start fresh, while most others if caught in the same situation would not be given the same liberty, or would probably get banned.

In my eyes, nobody should be given a fresh start if BST if going to be a serious marketplace. The mods just need to know what the bannable offenses are, and what offenses are to be given leeway (and how much). None of this clean-slate shit.
 
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thank god for BST going to be post count and paid required

If erect is showing someone else special treatment he should be held accountable.

thanks for having balls e liquid and starting this thread
 
What I don't get is why this seller would need a new account to sell the same exact service that he already offered on his other account. Especially since Erect said the service was different enough from the other seller whom he thread-shat on months beforehand.

If his service was so different, then how could his thread-shitting even be considered thread-shitting in the first place?

Exactly why I have an issue with it, also.
 
I do, always. I posted here outing myself as the one who did the editing sounds just like manning up in my book.

He had never sold before in SBT to the best of my knowledge. It was a review of a paid service ago when he was a customer that was critical to the point that if he was selling at the time, we would have had serious issues.


You're manning up in saying you closed the thread, so what? You're not manning up and defending your reasoning for initially locking the original thread. Him changing a username makes no fucking difference of his past actions and his new offer - the exact reason you locked the thread.

This person, months later, decides sell a similar product. There was no malicious intent concerning the review but it did put him right behind the barrel of our threadshitting rule ... which isn't in place to handle situations like this, rather exists to require a professional courtesy amongst sellers. My solution solved all of this right up until this thread.

I'll have to disagree on that. Whether or not the review was warranted or not makes no difference to me. It turned personal when he went on a vendetta of the other provider. It came to the point that he (the person whose thread you closed) came into my threads trying to derail them because he thought I was the other provider. Not only did he try doing that, but he had a shitfest in PMs with me. It is what it is, but it certainly turned personal after what transpired between the two. What he did in my thread was the reason he was banned for a while.


If all it takes is to have an account on here and completely destroy someone else's BST, whether it's true or not, to only have to make a new account and offer the same service to work, then you're opening Pandora's box.
 
There is an endless pool of service slingers in BST. Why bother jumping through hoops for any of them? If they fuck up, good. One less person creating threads.

Also, the $25 per thread idea sounds like a great one.
 
Next morning when I am genuinely about to buy said service, I'm browsing BST and I come across THE EXACT SAME SERVICE. This time its from a NEW member on Wickedfire with 1 post, no iTraders, and 2 posts in their thread, once of which is from Erect.

Thank you for his new screen name.

It turned personal when he went on a vendetta of the other provider. It came to the point that he (the person whose thread you closed) came into my threads trying to derail them because he thought I was the other provider.

Thank you for his old screen name.
 
You guys are harshin my Labor day gig.

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Also, the $25 per thread idea sounds like a great one.

Make it a hundo and the signal:noise ratio improves in a heartbeat.

inb4 "3rd world prejudice"....I guarantee myself + many others would gladly pay $100 on completion to satisfaction for a linkbuilding package that actually worked instead of the typical rehashed copycat versions of existing services with fancy new WaFo ebook style names fare that dominates the front three pages of BST any given moment.
 
Okay this is really confusing now... I can't sit here and read these weird posts and make a decision...

Eliquid.. you made allegations of a moderator taking sides for self interest/collusion with others and/or bribes.

If that's true, I want to see the proof.
If its not true, then I'm closing this thread after you apologize for alleging shit like that, because its not cool.

You don't have to agree with someone, but don't fuckin rile up the hornets nest just because you're pissed. Knock the shit outta him at the next show instead, its much more effective and provides major and much needed lulz here. ALLEGEDLY of course.

Im only posting this for Jon and after this I am not coming back to this thread. I never said he was taking bribes, but what I did say was:

So are you getting kickback from this deal as well?

^^ Because at the time there was no clear reason behind why he changed the thread. I questioned him on it. As far as everything else:

1. Get Erect to help you open a new WF account - Cant verify Erect helped him make the actual account, but from what has been said here it seems like maybe Erect suggested it.
2. Have your original post for your new service changed to your new screen name. - Check, was done
3. Have all inquiring posts about the new screen name or old bad rep screen name on your sales thread removed by Erect - Check, was done
4. Have Erect then write a little bit about how you should trust the seller even though they have no post count or itraders - Check, was done
5. Have Erect PM anyone questioning your thread to not question it in public and leave it to PMs only - Check, was done! I have my PM to this and Erect stated he PM'd another member about this
6. Have Erect attack anyone questioning the heavy censorship around the whole deal, even though those people may have never had an issue with the seller, Erect himself, or generally anyone on the board. - Check, was done! Was told in this thread to NOT namedrop and even though I never brought up the sellers name or Erect name, he decided to come into this thread himself and help the drama fest ensue.

The evidence is all in your logs and on this thread. Nothing is being denied from Erect. If you thought I meant he was taking bribes, I am not sure how you came to that though. I dont know if or if not Erect has self interest in the sellers thread or not, but I know I prob. alluded to it in my question of why he did what he did before the full story played out on the thread. What I did accuse Erect of though is above numbered 1-6 and mapped out.

Wither you think thats right or wrong, thats your call. I personally see it as wrong and will not stand idle as it happens. As a potential buyer of services, I do not think this is fair play.

Sorry Erect if it came out that way about the bribes.

Jon, I dont have admin access to the boards, I didnt foresee all this to take screen shots beforehand, and everything else in on this board for you to make of it what you want. Nothing is being denied though and a few members have stepped up about the thread vanishing and the seller changing their name. Not sure what else I could give you as evidence considering the only thing I could give you is your own server logs/vbull logs and you know I can not provide that.

I even stated above I dont think Erect is crooked, I do however think this was a bad judgement call ( which we are all guilty of at somepoint ).

Other then that, I am out of this thread.
 
People bitch to me all the time, but never thank me for it... except when they first say hi or meet me at a show, which is very kind of them to say, but they are typically newbies. Love me, hate me, fuck I don't care to be honest, but don't lie to me and don't fucking disrespect us. Because then you're automatically a twat, and you know what happens to twats? They get fucked. HARD. And they deserve it.

Thank you Jon. *manhug*
 
Make it a hundo and the signal:noise ratio improves in a heartbeat.
Make it a hundred a month, and now we're talking.

Services should be businesses, not rejects from DP and people trying to make $25. That's what Fiverr is for.
 
Make it a hundred a month, and now we're talking.

Services should be businesses, not rejects from DP and people trying to make $25. That's what Fiverr is for.

I know several people that make about $25 per order and gross over $10k/mo from this forum alone. $10k/mo isn't anything to balk at.