So, what you're saying is Thermodynamics = Big Oil conspiracy?
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So, what you're saying is Thermodynamics = Big Oil conspiracy?
Wow. You heard it here first, folks.
That's if the military develop it themselves...
The US military can't classify private research taking place in Bologna
If the military was considering buying it, they would request them to not do public demonstrations. Lockheed Martin is also a private company.
Because the experimenter was invited to one of Silvio Berlusconi's bunga bunga parties, and hasn't been seen since.
Here is an update on this from MSNBC looks like a partner has been named...
Cosmic Log - What's new on the fusion front?
National Instruments signs to do E-Cat controls
Cosmic Log - What's new on the fusion front?
National Instruments signs to do E-Cat controls
Edison didn't invent hardly anything on his own, he paid other people to invent things for him.
Edison cheated Tesla out of a lot of money too:
That $50,000 was probably worth around $1.2 million today if you adjust for inflation. Can you imagine working a year on the promise of getting paid over a millon dollars, then your boss telling you he was just joking, that you were supposed to be working for free?
He worked for Westinghouse, and that didn't work out for him either:
It wasn't about him being ahead of his time, it was more about his priorities. He lived for science, he didn't live to make money. He didn't care about money, as long as he was able to work on what he was passionate about he was the richest man on the planet in his mind.
I've heard of NI (at ni.com, Nasdaq; NATI) back in my robotting days, (they make controllers, among other things) and alexa's wayback machine shows their website existed back in 1998 for their company. (First reg in 1994 by ??)
So this part is legit; NATI DID sign to make the control panel electronics for this thing, but the jury is still out on if this thing can do what Rossi claims. There is still too much questionable stuff about the test and why it hasn't been tested out by the local universities there as promised yet.
I'm really stumped on teh E-Cat. I see no reason why he can't demonstrate this thing in a less fishy way, but on the other hand he has convinced several less-than fishy (even a public American Corp!) ppl/companies/entities to do business with him on this and give their thumbs up in one way or another.
Very interesting... I think I'll go make a Google Alert on "E-Cat" now.
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You don't, by chance, live in Eastern Europe, do you Napolean?
-Don't worry, I'm not arguing with your statements, Edison was a thief whose breathe smelled like cock...I just find it funny how passionate you guys get over this 100+ year old subject.
Now if only Rossi will behave like Tesla...
...General Electric will end up with Cold Fusion tech that they can sit on for another 100 years.
You don't, by chance, live in Eastern Europe, do you Napolean?
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Because it's a rare thing for someone to actually live for their passion, when what you do for a living is the same thing you would do if you didn't have to work at all, huge potential is possible.
If Edison weren't in the picture, it's hard to imagine what Tesla may have accomplished and what kind of world we would live in today. Edison was a world class douche bag when it comes down to it, and its such a shame that the world admires the wrong guy.
Very few people even realize that Edison and Tesla were offered the Nobel peace price, but Edison declined it so neither of them would get it, simply because he didn't want to share the recognition with Tesla.
Today, we seem to reward people for being dumb as rocks. The biggest celebrities are famous simply for being famous. It doesn't make any sense that people look up to people like the Kardashians and Snooki, but you tell them about someone like Tesla and they could care less about such talented people.
Steve Jobs and Dennis Ritchie both died barely a week apart. But does anyone know who Dennis Ritchie is? Apple and Microsoft wouldn't be the same or may not have existed at all if it weren't for Dennis Ritchie, but his death happened and not one story on any mainstream networks.
His work accomplished much more than Bill Gates and Steve Jobs, even made their accomplishments possible. He lived for his passion, and didn't make a fortune from his work, so nobody knows who he is.
I'd rather appreciate someone for their accomplishments, rather than their fortunes, how cool their gadgets are, or how much dignity they will sacrifice to make their reality tv show a hit.
I need to look this up, but I'm pretty sure that there was a patent on tablet computers too. It expired and that's why we just now have that explosion of tablets today. It could have happened much sooner. I'm just going on what I've heard though, haven't double checked yet.
E-CATs For Everyone!*
One Megawatt Heat Plant for Sale
*=Everyone with $2 Million to spare.
Yep, they actually went on sale to the public today. Rossi's asking for $2 Million in an escrow account from anyone, anywhere (Obviously you gotta pick it up) and the funds are released from escrow ONLY WHEN THE THING TESTS SUCCESSFULLY AT YOUR SITE!
-So now we're getting near the end of this thing. If Rossi is scamming, then he's pulling a 419 and is working with the Escrow folks or something to steal money sent to escrow. If not, then he's legit, and we'll know it soon!!
PS: He claims on that site to also be developing a small 5kW version for home/small office use.
One Megawatt Heat Plant for Sale
*=Everyone with $2 Million to spare.
Yep, they actually went on sale to the public today. Rossi's asking for $2 Million in an escrow account from anyone, anywhere (Obviously you gotta pick it up) and the funds are released from escrow ONLY WHEN THE THING TESTS SUCCESSFULLY AT YOUR SITE!
-So now we're getting near the end of this thing. If Rossi is scamming, then he's pulling a 419 and is working with the Escrow folks or something to steal money sent to escrow. If not, then he's legit, and we'll know it soon!!
PS: He claims on that site to also be developing a small 5kW version for home/small office use.
How would you know how rare it is? Many people live/work for their passion but you never hear from them. They pursue excellence on their own, in their own way.
Let's not over glorify following your "passion". I think its a great thing. But it is not "romantic" and it is a disgrace when those that pursue their passion wish for me to pay for it.
With that said, I really just posted because I wanted to follow this thread and was too lazy to subscribe.
I'm getting TONS of google alerts on this subject now... 10 blog posts/news stories yesterday alone. Way too much to read fully, but let's just say it's really being taken seriously by various universities afterall.
The most serious attempt I've seen yet to re-create E-Cat was done by: e-Cat Site | Nickel-Hydrogen Cold Fusion... That site is years old and predates Rossi's fame, and is run by a guy who did work on the Patterson Cell. (Another older version of Cold Fusion that can't truly be discarded yet either.)
They claim that their test is successful on a smaller scale and they give ALL their data on that site!
The history on that site of LENR (Cold fusion is now referred to as "Low Energy Nuclear Reaction" in serious science circles) is awesome, especially if you read through the links they give... Time and time again serious CHEMISTS have come out with something like this or the patterson cell (Including the US Navy) only to be silenced somehow.
In fact LENR apparently has had Hundreds of scientists around the world working on it since the 1989 Pons and Fleishmann incident, because the results on that were actually successful enough to keep a large mass of Chemists working on it ever since. They've been saying since that time that it's only a matter of time, yet when someone gets really close no one hears from him anymore... ;(
Interestingly, it is always Palladium that is the key though; They keep coming back to palladium as a way to make LENR work, and on this latest attempt it is a nickel nano-powder with palladium to create the heat-giving reaction. So if LENR ever takes off, go long on Palladium ASAP. It'll become a billion times more valuable than gold overnight.
(Seriously thinking about picking some up before then!)
The most serious attempt I've seen yet to re-create E-Cat was done by: e-Cat Site | Nickel-Hydrogen Cold Fusion... That site is years old and predates Rossi's fame, and is run by a guy who did work on the Patterson Cell. (Another older version of Cold Fusion that can't truly be discarded yet either.)
They claim that their test is successful on a smaller scale and they give ALL their data on that site!
The history on that site of LENR (Cold fusion is now referred to as "Low Energy Nuclear Reaction" in serious science circles) is awesome, especially if you read through the links they give... Time and time again serious CHEMISTS have come out with something like this or the patterson cell (Including the US Navy) only to be silenced somehow.
In fact LENR apparently has had Hundreds of scientists around the world working on it since the 1989 Pons and Fleishmann incident, because the results on that were actually successful enough to keep a large mass of Chemists working on it ever since. They've been saying since that time that it's only a matter of time, yet when someone gets really close no one hears from him anymore... ;(
Interestingly, it is always Palladium that is the key though; They keep coming back to palladium as a way to make LENR work, and on this latest attempt it is a nickel nano-powder with palladium to create the heat-giving reaction. So if LENR ever takes off, go long on Palladium ASAP. It'll become a billion times more valuable than gold overnight.
(Seriously thinking about picking some up before then!)
How would you have to pay for someone to pursue their passion? I'm not talking about subsidies or anything like that. I'm talking about people who live for their passion but on their own two feet.
It's a completely different thing if someone else is forced to pay for someone else to do what they want.
By rare, I mean to pursue and accomplish big things. It is a rare thing for someone to be completely committed to something to the point that they become great at it. I mean great as in above and beyond, not just someone who is really good at their hobby. I'm talking about someone who changes the way things are actually done.
You don't, by chance, live in Eastern Europe, do you Napolean?
-Don't worry, I'm not arguing with your statements, Edison was a thief whose breathe smelled like cock...I just find it funny how passionate you guys get over this 100+ year old subject.
Now if only Rossi will behave like Tesla...
...General Electric will end up with Cold Fusion tech that they can sit on for another 100 years.
Tesla was possibly the best or at least one of the best scientists that ever lived. In fact his most famous invention (AC electricity) was completely discredited by Edison for a very long time after huge PR slurs. Even though DC needed electricity plants every couple of miles and was hugely inefficient the general public went on believing what they heard about Tesla's "dangerous" AC electricity. Im sure Edison was one of the greatest marketers ever, but if he had let Tesla work then i'm sure our technology now would be even further on.
For instance, did you know that tesla made the first wireless electricity? He actually lit his home with it.
Oh and no i'm not eastern european.
everyone knows the Bilderburger Rothchild Zionist Reptilians have been squashing patents for cold fusion, teleporters, queef-powered segways and microwaves that don't make food soggy and rubbery since the Federal Reserve was established in 1913. don't say Nostradamus didn't warn you, bitches.
I apologize. We are oftentimes sold the concept of "supporting the arts" by politicians.
You argument is the same as that proposed by many others, including Gardner in his book on Excellence. Simply people pursuing excellence, their passions, and being the best and greatest at it.
It should be what our schools teach.