Martin Grunin - Facebook Ads Fraud - Bank Fraud - mgrunin

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Beat me to it!!

I haven't seen anything yet on criminal charges being filed, but what they are alleging is serious stuff.

Timeline of Marin Grunin's rags to Hundred thousandaire back down to dead broke and in debt (I can foresee the future..) story:

- Martin Grunin fakes bank statements and company infos to get 70 FB Ads accounts from FB.
- Poses as ad agency rep for multiple companies by spoofing their emails and fwd-ing numbers.
- Does so to extend the agencies' credit lines.
- Cloaks and spams the crap out of Facebook with the advertising agency accounts for adult dating offers, against FB's anti-affiliates policy (even though they officially solicited affiliates that bankrolled their entire first few years of advertising revenues prior to their IPO launch DIRECTLY from affiliates/advertisers they found specifically on this forum... but hey, that's another story for another time.)
- Facebook sends billing statements to the spoofed emails that Martin Grunin controls.

[NOTE: All of it could have stopped right here, and all he had to do was face likely being banned from Facebook for life, but at least he would have had the money to pay the bills.. but this when he decided, nahhh, I'm above the law and I deserve this money, plus I'm too smart to get caught.. Yeah, let's do this.. ]

-Martin Grunin responds back to Facebook's billing department with FALSIFIED bank statements on behalf of the companies.
- Facebook sends Martin Grunin a C&D to stop spamming ads, he agrees, but says zero fucks given and continues right on with it on the same day. (Proof - oh look, he posted about it here back in 2011..
- Facebook attempts to bill the actual companies on record and is denied as they have no idea what Facebook is yammering on about, as the people whom they have been in touch with have never worked for their companies, nor have they ever really existed either.
- Martin Grunin Flips the burned Facebook Ad accounts to buyers/other affiliates for up to $30,000 each. [link]
- Facebook is pissed because no one is paying for the $350,000+ spent by those accounts...

And then the plot thickens.. in a weird way... as usual...

- Martin Grunin pretends to be a stock market winner winner chicken dinner.
- Makes claims that he has made all of this money STRICTLY from his hidden talents of picking winning stocks!
- Martin Grunin rents a Lamborghini and scuffs it up, but brags about it ON his Facebook so everyone can see what a fool he is for parking it in Brooklyn, on the street, overnight.
- Makes a VERY foolish bet with Jon Fisher (oh yeah, you're gonna be my slave bitch now dude!!)
- Creates threads about amazing stock picking skills hoping to show off and prove his LEGEND status claims!

- Wait for it... Wait for it....

- Fails to pick winners. Everything tanks.
- Waits a lil bit...
- Tries again with second thread.
- Fails harder.
- Apparently someone forgot to turn on his inner stock picking talents mechanism.
- No worries, begins to sell a service where YOU can PAY HIM for picking BAD stock tips for you to invest in!!
- DEAL OF THE CENTURY!!!!
- Creates account at EliteTrader forum to prep for epic live trading example to promote future forum.
- Fails REALLY REALLY hard by doing the opposite of everything he claimed he would not do when picking stocks.
- Has more experience than Harvard and Yale grads.
- Clearly has no experience at all at following his own investment advice.
- Gets sued by Facebook.
- Lives the baller life... with dad.. at home.. BUT HE HAS HIS OWN ROOM!!!
- May face bank fraud criminal charges too.
- Gets the fame he was looking for... in the NY Post labeled as a scammer.
- Lulz and some tears everywhere.
- Life goes on.

Lawsuit link: Facebook v. Grunin via InternetCodex.com



Thanks for the support fellows. Great to know that after dedicating years to this forum and never engaging into arguments or shit talking with another member, this is the type of reaction I receive to a controversy.

I guess it is very easy to a paint a picture of someone when all you have is one side, right?

I'll be back fellows, you can count on that. Won't be long before this misunderstanding is cleared up.


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I know this is old news, but I'm just now catching up - Facebook sues alleged scammer over sex and Jennifer Lopez ads | PCWorld

"Facebook is suing a former advertiser on its site, claiming he ran multiple ad accounts to promote sexual content and used a simple trick to scam the social network out of US$340,000."

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It is kinda cool that Martin Grunin has a sense of humor about his unfortunate situation and hired a Jester as his legal representative.

I wonder if Martin could maybe get some kind of D list reality show deal after he serves his prison term. Another Internet Marketing has-been named Vito Glazers went that route.

Holy shit! Do you guys think Martin is filming a documentary right now?
 
WTF is this shit? The fact that a legit looking, legit sounding guy turned out to be an alleged fraudster/con-man and now he's being represented by erm... this guy About Us | Freedom Phenom | The Doctrine of Liberty ?

What is happening? Common sense is so uncommon these days...

Perhaps its a problem with your legit sense?

Why you call someone legit without any real business history here beside the
usual crap & fraud (selling accounts, CPA traps, banned for a tutorial to scam
networks,...), buying cars worth a substantial part of his income
(and crashing them after weeks - income from what, btw?
Who cares when you can pose without your crashed R8) and then....

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGK8IC-bGnU]Monty Python - "And Now For Something Completely Different" - YouTube[/ame]

... he presents us his little secret in a complete different area like trading as
a new cash mashine? You know - trading. That simple thing where you can
make money without risk and all - except you are a trader of a bank, then you
will lose billions and bring down whole parts of the financial system...

But perhaps i missed something, then please correct me now what legit points i denied.
 
Why rent a Ford Focus when you can micro-lease a Lambo? Why retain a lawyer when you can engage a Diplomat?

COURT CASES: As a Diplomat, Brian Costello can represent anyone in ANY court in the U.S. without you being present. Freedom Phenom will file a motion to dismiss your case for “Lack of Subject Matter Jurisdiction” no matter what the charges are. We can even get your charges dismissed before your case even makes it to court.

Zuckerberg et al gonna get Costello'd. Could end up a payday for Gru.
 
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Why rent a Ford Focus when you can micro-lease a Lambo? Why retain a lawyer when you can engage a Diplomat?

COURT CASES: As a Diplomat, Brian Costello can represent anyone in ANY court in the U.S. without you being present. Freedom Phenom will file a motion to dismiss your case for “Lack of Subject Matter Jurisdiction” no matter what the charges are. We can even get your charges dismissed before your case even makes it to court.

Zuckerberg et al gonna get Costello'd. Could end up a payday for Gru.

I don't believe grunin is that stupid. I think he knows that he is complete fucked and there is no real chance in this case. He just tries to delay it and to spread a bit confusion and the hope to have some luck in the meantime - whatever that is. That is even somewhat rational. He can't really do anything. Its complete out of his hands and control except the way to go for the "yes, its all true and i am very sorry. But i have now found jesus and i a new man". But there is still alot time for the jesus solution. No need to hurry in that direction.
 
This is usually how this type of "defense" ends in court
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAQ4KmV11QU]Speeding Ticket Sentencing 2013-10-17 - YouTube[/ame]
 
I don't believe grunin is that stupid. I think he knows that he is complete fucked and there is no real chance in this case. He just tries to delay it and to spread a bit confusion and the hope to have some luck in the meantime - whatever that is. That is even somewhat rational. He can't really do anything. Its complete out of his hands and control except the way to go for the "yes, its all true and i am very sorry. But i have now found jesus and i a new man". But there is still alot time for the jesus solution. No need to hurry in that direction.
False.

You're best option is to hire a lawyer who has experience in these situations. In my limited legal experience in situations like these you have optimal two legal routes:
1. To work things out toward a settlement and appeal emotionally to the opposing litigant. I've actually seen this work several times.
2. Out maneuver them legally based on all the legal mumbo-jumbo expertise.

Both of those require a smart strategy from day 1. Both strategies generally try to build the strongest defense while pissing off the opponents the least amount possible.

By hiring a fake lawyer with the sole purpose of throwing your case out could easily be incentivizing FB staff and lawyers to go for maximum ownage just for the lulz. I've seen wealthy people/groups spend a a lot of money with the sole purpose of fucking someone in court
 
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