Don't Buy A Mac? Wow.

OS X can be installed on a PC...but have fun with doing updates and getting all your drivers to work correctly...

and Mac's are not much more expensive...$300-500 generally...and with an operating system that I personally feel is a million times better...It's worth the extra price...and mac laptops are built way better than any cheap asus/acer/hp/dell plastic laptop...they're smaller, better battery life, and have the best keyboard/trackpad and a very good screen...but the only thing that matters is the cpu and ram, cause you don't actually use the keyboard/battery/trackpad/mouse etc...only cpu and ram...duh guise.

now...mac servers are WAY over priced...mac personal computers, not so much
 


People said the same things about Firefox on spyware/malware/viruses/popups before its popularity rivaled IE.

Now your just as likely to get infected with malware surfing on either IE or Firefox.

Same thing would happen if/when Macs got a big enough market share. As soon as its equally profitable to spread malware on Macs, there will be just as big of a malware problem as on PCs.

That said, our only hope of salvation is counting on the recontinuation of BeOS.
 
How about this twats, according to both Gardner research and VWMare, enterprise Mac usage is on pace to double by 2013.

So, companies (which have the choice) and have calculated both the capex and opex costs are choosing to spend more on Macs and incurring the costs that come with migrating to them. That should probably tell you something. Either all those MBAs are stupid or this is a little more complicated then "OMFG Macs are 4 retards!!11!"
 
Anyone here use Ubuntu?

Tried Ubuntu this summer to recover gigs of img/video from my Euro adventure after my WinXP Netbook failed. Ended up liking it so much that I installed Ubuntu on my Win7 desktop.

I've virtualized Win7 on a slave computer because I use Photoshop and enterprise Win apps, but Ubuntu has improved my productivity amazingly. Helped me better understand the Linux server environment and I've picked up scripting that carries directly over to Linux server scripting of course.
 
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On the RAM, Mac Pro's come with ECC, Registered RAM. Did you figure that or just compare it to Kingston budget bullshit RAM?

RAID Card too expensive? I dont think so, it integrates nicely with the hard drive setup in a Mac Pro tower and doesn't require you to run SATA cables between the hotswap style drives and the card. Its custom, not some off the shelf BS.

The Nvidia card is overpriced but it requires special firmware on the chip for Macs. They don't sell a million mac video cards a year so they're naturally more expensive (supply and demand).

I'll give you the hard drives, and optical drives I'll give you. I never buy apple hard drives they've always been overpriced.
 
Hey mac fags, have you got a 'maximise' button yet or is apple still telling you that you don't need one?
 
conv3rsion said:
How about this twats, according to both Gardner research and VWMare, enterprise Mac usage is on pace to double by 2013.

So, companies (which have the choice) and have calculated both the capex and opex costs are choosing to spend more on Macs and incurring the costs that come with migrating to them. That should probably tell you something. Either all those MBAs are stupid or this is a little more complicated then "OMFG Macs are 4 retards!!11!"
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They are.

Having worked IT in big business before, I can tell you that a surprising number of business decisions are made on passing fancies of upper management.

Macs are pretty terrible when it comes to enterprise level management. AD integration is pisspoor (Fuck having to run extra servers just to make their shit kinda work with current offerings), data security is a PITA to manage on them, it means managing more applications for no real benefit, etc. Just in general, locking down and managing macs is far more trouble than it's worth. There are definitely some exceptions to this - but most mac adoptions are the result of someone with a two or three letter string title wanting something shiny.
 
Cthalupa said:
They are.

Having worked IT in big business before, I can tell you that a surprising number of business decisions are made on passing fancies of upper management.

Macs are pretty terrible when it comes to enterprise level management. AD integration is pisspoor (Fuck having to run extra servers just to make their shit kinda work with current offerings), data security is a PITA to manage on them, it means managing more applications for no real benefit, etc. Just in general, locking down and managing macs is far more trouble than it's worth. There are definitely some exceptions to this - but most mac adoptions are the result of someone with a two or three letter string title wanting something shiny.
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Haha can't argue with that.

Although in a previous life I was a computer tech certified up the yin yang and well on my way to an MCSE cert (basically I knew every inch of a PC's nether regions)

...AND after buying a mac laptop and using it for a month I ditched every PC in my house and got an iMac.
 
Yeah, I've contemplated getting a Macbook Pro for a long time now. They're definitely nice machines!
 
I use a Mac Pro 13, the quality and feel of the unibody design makes it the best laptop on the market.

Mac = Quality
 
Most of the arguments I hear concern price.

If macs are too expensive for you or you think they are overpriced, why not find one on ebay or craigslist that someone who didn't like theirs ( or stole ) and buy a used one for rather cheap.

Comparing something on price alone ( with no real experience to back up your claim ) is about as stupid as it gets. That is like all the rice burners in this forum who pimp out Honda's and Mazda's claiming that BMW's and Mercedes are over priced, but the real fact is they have never drove one and/or don't have the funds to even get their hands on one.

I would feel different if a few people would have said.. "I've owned one or used one for more then a month" and then still said they were too expensive. Expensive is "relative" to everyone here and price can always be negotiated or lowered, so basing it on price just doesn't make a good argument.

As someone that has always owned PC's that ran everything from Windows 98 to Win 7, to Ubuntu and Slackware, to now OSX.. I actually found the OSX platform more stable and responsive then Window versions overall. Do I think its practical to pay $2k more for a MacBook Pro over a Dell running Win7.. prob. not, but I know I can pay less then sticker for the MacBook or get a solid used one with a fresh install of Snow Leopard for just a tad more then PC based laptops/desktops.

Overall, the OSX platform and my MacBook Pro has recently outperformed all my other machines in any given task though.
 
BluAffiliate said:
People complaining that Mac parts cost too much would be analogous to people complaining that a Mercedes costs more than a Honda Civic.
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The majority of parts on my entry level mercedes c class, are cheaper then a honda civics in a relative year. Hence why I just went with the benz.
 
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