Digital Point Owners Indicted – Out on 100k Bail

I hate to go back and forth with you, but since you are telling me to go back to school, why not.

The statistic you are quoting counts plea deals. Here, I will highlight the text you need to understand

In 2005, adjudicated defendants were either convicted following
a guilty plea (86%)

See? You cant say that "90 percent of all trials are won by the feds" because its not true. 90% of people that are charged would be correct, but going to trial is another thing. Also keep in mind that 90% statistic is fed from mainly low income drug dealers. If you asked "What percent of people who can afford a $500/hr attorney go to jail, I wouldnt be surprised if it was less than 10%. Most defendants cant afford a good lawyer and cop a deal- This skews the stats. Obviously hogan can afford a lawyer, so it puts him in a much higher (but not desirable) bracket for a win.

Thank you, come again.

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Blastyourass said:
OK, I was off a lil bit, but you are way off and need to go back to school and punch your mouth teacher in da mouth. You have no conclusion with the facts you presented or should I say copy and pasted from a forum.

OK Hogan has a 90% chance of being convicted, my baaaaaad.
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You should quit while your so not ahead dude. Now, I would go back to that school and pull the math teachers balls out from his scrotum. You are just making yourself look stupid man.

I said convictions.

A conviction by guilty plea or trial is one the same. They are all convictions. I didn't say, "90 percent of all trials are won by the feds." Can you read? I can see clearly you severely lack in the common sense area.

Please do not come again and keep this on topic to Shawn Hogan and the DP. There is no need to go back and forth with me on this anymore. It takes away from the subject.
 
Don't we have a rule against annoying "guru" promotions here? "Work From Home With Moe"? LMAO

Moe, if you want to be a pontificating expert, please keep it to your blog for n00bs. We do not need any self-righteous "authority figures" here.

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Its a biased, stupid statistic. You said:

If you have been formally indicted by the FBI after a 3-4 year investigation, then you are fucked and almost guaranteed some type of conviction. They do not do this for cookie shits and internet giggles. They have 98% plus conviction rate once a defendant has been charged.
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But that data is fueled by PLEAS primarily from drug dealers and general idiots with no cash for lawyers. When you apply the statistics to those who will go to trial (like hogan will) the odds of a guilty verdict are 25% or less. When you are hogan, and you can afford ridiculous lawyers, that number might be even lower.

Because hogan is able to afford a lawyer, this immediately puts him out of that statistic and into the "trial" area. So really, when it comes down to it- His chances of being convicted (if he does not accept a plea) are very close to 25% - not "98 plus"



Blastyourass said:
You should quit while your so not ahead dude. Now, I would go back to that school and pull the math teachers balls out from his scrotum. You are just making yourself look stupid man.

I said convictions.

A conviction by guilty plea or trial is one the same. They are all convictions. I didn't say, "90 percent of all trials are won by the feds." Can you read? I can see clearly you severely lack in the common sense area.

Please do not come again and keep this on topic to Shawn Hogan and the DP. There is no need to go back and forth with me on this anymore. It takes away from the subject.
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After the fact, but @Blastyourass: the idea that an obvious native English speaker who also quite obviously wishes to be thought of as smart on the Internet, does not understand about sarcasm, is kind of sad.


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This is huge... and wasn't this almost 2 years coming?? I remember reading about shawn/dp/cookie stuffing back in 08!
 
Blastyourass said:
This is the largest alleged affiliate scam in history.
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ohhh Moe.. so naive.

Rebill lawsuits?
FTC hatin?

this is petty shit compared to the above.. shit with cookie stuffing happens like this all the time (maybe not *quite* to this scale, but I've definitely heard of some big numbers)

this blogpost is soo representative of DP/BHW.. retards who think they can get away with something like cookie stuffing. it might work on small scale (which is 95% of DP/BHW) but when you enter the >$100 profit range you gongetraped
 
I'd also heard about the cookie stuffing issue w/ DP or Hogan in 2008. It seems strange to me that if he felt uncomfortable that he would allow himself to be talked into remaining on board? I also am not sure why he would talk about a case in public before it goes to trial?

The whole thing is just weird. Not saying anyone is lying, but it seems really bizarre to go talking about it in public ahead of time - especially in that level of detail. Perhaps that's his only way to reach out to the 'public'? Odd.
 
This is scary shit!!!

So what next go to prison for having multiple adwords accounts or cloaking?

identity theft, wire fraud, unauthorized access

You could kind of grab any vauge crime and find a way to make it work in the circumstance.

- Use fake information to create an Adwords account, even with a prepaid card = identity theft?

- create a new Adwords account after getting banned and somehow label that you illegally accessed the adwords service and get charged for some sort of hacking offense.

- cloak your pages and you somehow defrauded the user as you "forced" them to view your page.

I don't know, I am rambling, but this is heading down some scary paths for average affiliates guys that push the boundaries even a little bit.

The line between civil cases and criminal just got a lot more gray. It doesnt matter if you are convicted or not, the majority of the damage is done already emotionally, financially and socially.
 
MakeDaMoney said:
This is scary shit!!!

So what next go to prison for having multiple adwords accounts or cloaking?

identity theft, wire fraud, unauthorized access

You could kind of grab any vauge crime and find a way to make it work in the circumstance.

- Use fake information to create an Adwords account, even with a prepaid card = identity theft?

- create a new Adwords account after getting banned and somehow label that you illegally accessed the adwords service and get charged for some sort of hacking offense.

- cloak your pages and you somehow defrauded the user as you "forced" them to view your page.

I don't know, I am rambling, but this is heading down some scary paths for average affiliates guys that push the boundaries even a little bit.

The line between civil cases and criminal just got a lot more gray. It doesnt matter if you are convicted or not, the majority of the damage is done already emotionally, financially and socially.
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Next thing you know all the mobile advertisers that cloak their pages from the big carriers are gonna get sued.

...Oh wait.

Not sure you're cut out for this industry, bro.
 
He might have expensive Lawyers but the evidence they present might be very strong since they had a lot of time to collect and it and know he can afford good lawyers so they must have been extra careful they didn't indict him after 3-4 years for no reason they Will come down hard on him.

Just hope for him he isnt a wuss and faps his mouth but I doubt he is that strong

Not that it matters a whole lot but he even goes confessing shit on his blog and blames ebay and whatnot - guy should keep his mouth shut - plan carefully and pray to God
 
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