2013 UFO ALIEN DISCLOSURE by Canadian Minister of Defense

If Aliens actually visited Earth, it would be VERY easy to prove without a doubt that they exist to the vast majority of people.

A combination of a few of these would satisfy me,

A peer-reviewed analysis of an unknown alloy or physical item that could only have been conceived by science and physics much more advanced than ours. One so advanced that it would require a new branch of physics or chemistry to even be explained in the first place.

Peer-reviewed scientific information regarding current phenomena that we are 50 years behind on.

Gigapixel photography of another planet, including some of species in a biopsy, including some tissue samples. All of which would be analyzed under peer review by unconnected scientific establishments around the world.

Other forms of data which couldn't be obtained with our current and even unknown technology here on Earth. Such as the entire contents of another planets equivalent to the internet being uploaded on our Earth servers for the entire public domain to observe, scrutinize and organize into a coherent system which we could learn from.

An autopsy of a deceased alien publicized fully, held in public for individual recordings, and containing doctors with great public records from all over the globe, also recorded and transmitted live in HD from multiple angles to remove the possibility of any editing.

Here's what doesn't do it for me,

People speaking.


Most of this crap would lead to new technology becoming available which could be used for warfare. If we are to remain the Earth Emperors we must harness and protect this type of information and never let it fall into the hands of commies, brownies, etc
 


Fuck, some of you guys. What? Should we put up a sign, asking the aliens to please land in Times Square, and wave hello for us?

I'm sorry, but if you think we're the most intelligent species in this universe, then you're an idiot.
 
Most of this crap would lead to new technology becoming available which could be used for warfare. If we are to remain the Earth Emperors we must harness and protect this type of information and never let it fall into the hands of commies, brownies, etc

We already have several technologies that if used right would wipe out all humans on Earth. New tech would allow us to GET OFF this planet faster for survival redundancy. I'm of the opinion that we need as much tech as possible BEFORE we annihilate each other.

Tech to easily mine underground cities, tech to make scalable bases on inhospitable planets in our solar system, tech to make condos on rocket propelled meteorites rich in the right materials, etc..

The human situation has never had so much potential for disaster, it's NOT less tech that's going to save us from ourselves.
 
Fuck, some of you guys. What? Should we put up a sign, asking the aliens to please land in Times Square, and wave hello for us?

I'm sorry, but if you think we're the most intelligent species in this universe, then you're an idiot.

No, we don't want to do that:

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While I understand this, we are living in a MASSIVE universe. We know theirs other planets/stars/etc out there, and can prove it. The only thing we haven't proven is their is life outside of it with hard evidence.. But in reality, if our planet was able to produce life that's crazy to think we're the only place that can.

Not only that but we've taken trips to the moon in outer space. If we were able to do it, who's to say other's can't. We have proof that traveling in space is entirely possible.

There may be no "proof" of UFO's, but in reality we're flying around planes in the Sky, sending shuttles deep into outer space. So it's proven that you can fly, leave the planet, travel to another one, etc..

The only thing that people question about is the distance. If we can travel to the moon, it would be damn easy for another more advanced/longer lived planet to travel to the earth. Say they started 100 years before us, imagine how much better their technology would be.

Since you appear to be fast working your way through the logical fallacies in this and your previous posts in this thread, I'm going to devalue your entire argument based on the fact that you used their instead of there.

Perhaps that's for the best, as you seem to have an incomprehension of space, physics, the speed of light & the difference in scale of achievement of travelling hundreds of thousands of miles vs tens-hundreds-thousands of lightyears.

Moon at its furthest from us: 252596 miles
1 light year: ~6 trillion miles.

You could go to the moon ~24 milion times before you'd travel 1 single light year, to put that into perspective.

The nearest planet to us we have found to date that could support life is 42 light years away. Or more than 1 billion trips to the moon away.

By assuming that aliens have or are visiting us, you make a lot of assumptions, for example at least one of:

1) That somehow aliens can bend space time and use that to travel as a whole without being torn apart. A theory not particularly widely accepted by modern science.

2) Failing 1, that aliens could somehow build a ship to travel close to the speed of light. (You need exponentially more energy the closer you get.) You're talking energy beyond our comprehension of energy on earth as a planet. You're also assuming that the aliens within 100 light years of us are evolved enough to be that intelligent in the first place, which again, is highly improbable.

3) Failing 2, that aliens have managed to devise a way to survive tens/hundreds of thousands of years on a space ship, and drift around in space for some reason.

I believe that aliens exist, in some form, don't get me wrong. However it's a huge stretch to believe that there are intelligent aliens visiting us, and it'll take a lot of proof to convince the average intelligent person of that. I could see aliens on the news and I wouldn't believe it. Comparing its believability with a shooting (shootings happen every day) is utterly ridiculous.
 
From what I can gather is that no-one is disputing the fact that there is great probability of intelligent life in the universe. For all we know they could have been and gone before Earth even existed.
The fact that such beings are supposedly capable of travelling such vast distances (potentially billions of light years), therefore having to travel faster than light, leaving warping (wormholes) the only concievable possibility, at least to us right now. Even after all this when they finally get here, we find out about it like this, because what, the aliens dont want us to know that they exist. BULLSHIT!!! WHY THE FUCK NOT??!! I dont buy it for a second.
Little green men are just another religion in my eyes, just like ghosts and a big fat list of shit that I cant even be arsed typing. Just another story unless theres some actual fucking evidence that anyone, including the little green or white fuckers fancy sharing with us.
If they were real and here, it would be common knowledge. There would be no question there. We dont question giraffes or monkeys because theyre fucking real and we can see and touch them.
Rant over. Inb4 there is evidence, FUCK OFF!!
 
We already have several technologies that if used right would wipe out all humans on Earth. New tech would allow us to GET OFF this planet faster for survival redundancy. I'm of the opinion that we need as much tech as possible BEFORE we annihilate each other.

Tech to easily mine underground cities, tech to make scalable bases on inhospitable planets in our solar system, tech to make condos on rocket propelled meteorites rich in the right materials, etc..

The human situation has never had so much potential for disaster, it's NOT less tech that's going to save us from ourselves.

All of this assumes the powers that be give a fuck about anyone other than themselves and their close circle of psychopaths.

If sophisticated alien technology winds up on Earth, it will be seized by governments, not inventors (if it hasn't already) and wielded for evil.

This is now an anti-government thread.
 
2) Failing 1, that aliens could somehow build a ship to travel close to the speed of light. (You need exponentially more energy the closer you get.) You're talking energy beyond our comprehension of energy on earth as a planet. You're also assuming that the aliens within 100 light years of us are evolved enough to be that intelligent in the first place, which again, is highly improbable.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgpcqiiTM8A]Carl Sagan on space travel - YouTube[/ame]
 
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igUMDICqTpQ]UFO The Bob Lazar Interview (Full Documentary) - YouTube[/ame]
 
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phJXcUY-Y8Y]Confirmed: The U.S. Military Has Worked With Aliens? 2013 - YouTube[/ame]
 
This. I believe in extraterrestrial alien life forms, but the distance required to visit us even at the speed of light makes it unlikely that any intelligent alien life form has ever gone through the trouble to visit us. It would require a tremendous amount of resources.

Also Paul Hellyer USED to be the minister of defense in Canada back in the 60s.

Lots of sheep, who think they aren't sheep, in this thread as usual. The funniest part is they're getting suckered into authority bias even though most of them would consider themselves anti authority.

There are a lot of things we don't yet understand. it was barely 100 years ago that the concept of flight became a reality for human beings - space flight was so far from being figured out.

Any race 5000+ years more advanced than us technologically probably has a long list of technologies available to them that we cannot yet even conceive in our minds.

Based on what we know about our own technological history, having alien visitors seem significantly more likely than it is unlikely.

If there is a race of aliens in our quarter of the galaxy that is 5000+ years more advanced than we are technologically, I wouldn't be shocked if they have been watching us or visiting us for hundreds of years.
 
Sunday night - Season 3:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U_awZrlYxs]Falling Skies - Season Three Two Minute Preview - TNT - YouTube[/ame]
 
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLUzJeto0Wo]Stephen Hawking - Wormholes - YouTube[/ame]


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7P95LLpljo]Sci Fi Science Michio Kaku Traveling at Warp Speed - YouTube[/ame]


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BN-FU8VPoOc]Michio Kaku: The von Neumann Probe (A Nano Ship to the Stars) - YouTube[/ame]




the aliens dont want us to know that they exist. BULLSHIT!!! WHY THE FUCK NOT??!!

If any group was capable of traveling around, then they might also already have access to 1,000s of "case studies" detailing what can happen when they reveal themselves in certain ways to societies at various levels of advancement.

It's a big assumption to assume that the best course of action 100% of the time would be for any such group to immediately reveals themselves to anyone they encounter. It might be better to use a gradual reveal process or to not reveal at all until a civilization reaches a certain point in development.