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dxearner - what the fing f f f are you talking about? you don't think the images on the accord page are right for the demographic? it is a fing arbi site! the text is supposed to suck and the point is you want people to click on the fing adsense!
do you even understand the type of traffic an arbi site is going for? this is not a mfa site, this is a get in and get out pay me bitch site! the images are on topic that is all that matters. text is perfect the first thing someone does when they read the first sentance is look for a way off the page. the owner of the page does not want them to hit the back button so he has made the adsense stick out. this is about as spot on as an arbi page needs to be!
 


http://www.studentcreditcards.cc/ is a good site but I don't think it is specificly a arbi site. there are many pages and it is selling aff credit card programs. the owner of the site should be careful though as the ads are yahoo and the pictures are very close to them witch is against tos.
after we get the arbi page up we will move into doing aff stuff so this is 1 step ahead.
 
stylemangi - the rule of thumb from god (jon) is that you should use keywords that pay $3 or more. there are a ton out there that do that so if you optimize the page and also stick to the $.06 rule you will have a fantastic return. You might have to have 100 campaigns going but hay if you got 1 click from each a day you spend $6 and make $300. sure this is a simple example and it might not be close to that but you see the potential if you work at it.
if the page in your sig is what you are targeting well the keyword does not pay out much so I would move on to something else that has a higher ppc.
also you have tooooo many pages. also if someone is clicking on your last ad (placement #8) you are getting a max bid of $.35 in yahoo, this is not good. I try to do less ads
 
chrislingle said:
dxearner - what the fing f f f are you talking about? you don't think the images on the accord page are right for the demographic? it is a fing arbi site! the text is supposed to suck and the point is you want people to click on the fing adsense!
do you even understand the type of traffic an arbi site is going for? this is not a mfa site, this is a get in and get out pay me bitch site! the images are on topic that is all that matters. text is perfect the first thing someone does when they read the first sentance is look for a way off the page. the owner of the page does not want them to hit the back button so he has made the adsense stick out. this is about as spot on as an arbi page needs to be!
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How can you say that this site is not MFA? The owner put AdSense onit and wants the visitors to click on it. That's the perfect example of MFA site.

There are more sites on www.i-geek.info (you can browse the directory).
 
I think that i-geek.info has some pretty good looking landing pages. But...

http://www.i-geek.info/hondacrx.htm :1orglaugh:
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chrislingle said:
dxearner - what the fing f f f are you talking about? you don't think the images on the accord page are right for the demographic? it is a fing arbi site! the text is supposed to suck and the point is you want people to click on the fing adsense!
do you even understand the type of traffic an arbi site is going for? this is not a mfa site, this is a get in and get out pay me bitch site! the images are on topic that is all that matters. text is perfect the first thing someone does when they read the first sentance is look for a way off the page. the owner of the page does not want them to hit the back button so he has made the adsense stick out. this is about as spot on as an arbi page needs to be!
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What are you talking about????? Images definately have a impact on how much your ad's are paying out. If you dont have some planning to your abitrage pages then you will be sending shit traffic that doesnt convert and eventually be smart priced. Also I never question the layout of the page I think it is a great landing page with some image tweaks (it is not an arbitrage page because it is part of a larger site hence MFA site).

Also, I noticed in a later post you say
chrislingle stylemangi - the rule of thumb from god (jon)
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Why dont you stop sucking his nuts and actually know what you are talking about.
 
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dxearner- it is obvious that you are trolling for an amature to pay you to "consult" with them. You are trying to make yourself look like an athority on this. However you are nit picking with something that is pointless, the picture of the modified civic is not important. The picture is there to draw the eye witch then makes you look at the adsense ad. That is all, it will not make you any more money. sure if the picture was a bowling ball it might not help but show information that proves it will hurt? oh yea that will not happen cause you are selling your "consulting" services. Funny this forum is 100% free but you know something that is worth money? prove it!

last - if you did not get the Sarcasm
calling Jon god then pull the dildo out your ass and get the dick out your mouth and you just might get a sense of humor!
 
chrislingle said:
dxearner- it is obvious that you are trolling for an amature to pay you to "consult" with them. You are trying to make yourself look like an athority on this. However you are nit picking with something that is pointless, the picture of the modified civic is not important. The picture is there to draw the eye witch then makes you look at the adsense ad. That is all, it will not make you any more money. sure if the picture was a bowling ball it might not help but show information that proves it will hurt? oh yea that will not happen cause you are selling your "consulting" services. Funny this forum is 100% free but you know something that is worth money? prove it!

last - if you did not get the Sarcasm
calling Jon god then pull the dildo out your ass and get the dick out your mouth and you just might get a sense of humor!
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First, of all have you ever PM'ed me to get advice? The answer is no. So then you wouldn't know that I give it out for free. In fact, if you would look through the newbie section you would see that I often offer consulting for free. I am not here to make money. I do fine myself. I ask people to PM me so I don't waste others time and thread space. Also, it helps me talk more one on one with people without jackasses busting in talking about shit they don't know. I come to Wickedfire for the occasional idea, but more as a resource. I am here to help people, but not hold there hand.

I find it funny that you can dish out sarcasm but cant take it in return.

As per the nit picking, you are correct. But in my extensive testing and real life situations the nit picking you speak of often make a huge difference in profit or the avoidance of loss thereof. That is all I am going to speak on the matter because this bickering is straight a waste of my time and the people that have to read of this bullshit.
 
dxearner - if you have information that you want to share then by all means but the big reason I started this thread was to avoid generalities, your post talking about the pixs was very general, give information but what you give is just fucking stupid and a waiste of time if there is nothing to back it up just opinion - everyone has one but most don't make you any money so here is an idea, show fact! if you don't have facts to share put the dick back in your mouth! how is that for sarcasm?
 
chrislingle said:
dxearner - what the fing f f f are you talking about? you don't think the images on the accord page are right for the demographic? it is a fing arbi site! the text is supposed to suck and the point is you want people to click on the fing adsense!
do you even understand the type of traffic an arbi site is going for? this is not a mfa site, this is a get in and get out pay me bitch site! the images are on topic that is all that matters. text is perfect the first thing someone does when they read the first sentance is look for a way off the page. the owner of the page does not want them to hit the back button so he has made the adsense stick out. this is about as spot on as an arbi page needs to be!
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Chrislingle - This right here is just a reminder that dxearner gave a suggestion and you straight out blasted him. You seem to have some experience in arbi, but from the sounds of it very little, so you might want to be a bit more receptive to ideas...

By the way dx, I'd have to agree with you on your points - the honda page could definately be optimized a bit better for profits.
 
ok, then educate me, I get the best results with sites that have crap content and any picture close to the ad, as long as the ad is placed on the left hand side and the site does not look like crap. I think it is stupid that this argument and a post was even made discussing the type of honda civics pictured as well as the quality of the content. who the fuck cares! they don't have anything to do with arbi, with aff yes but that is not what we are talking about!
 
my biggest problem with what dx said was this - the content of the page would a person that those pictures appeal to go to such a page I would say not. The information is quite general and more on the informing side. Even further, there is no performance mentioning in the arbitrage page. - again who the fuck cares this is arbi not aff. the whole point is to get people to click on the adsense etc. when I started out I did alot of work making something that someone could use. pages of info etc. the site was set up on a blog and was the same layout of a blog that is getting 10% click through from organic search. I made nothing at arbi. when I put crap on the site, had 1 page and ads in the right place, no pics next to ads I started making money. when I added images, even off topic images I started making more money, I have personally tested around 50 combinations of page design and content quality and the thing that works best is the crappy paragraphs with the well optimized ad placement, the images are important but not what the images are!
now can we move on or get stuck in this, if you have any ideas to help set up a "formula" that gives people a great starting point please put them here! be specific or do not post!
 
Dxe and Chris... I would recommend you to stop arguing who's dick is bigger and stick to the topic.

Chris post some more info about how you are doing and some stats like you did before.
 
I think the bit about images being relevent is to comply with Google TOS; if there weren't restrictions in the TOS we all know what type of images would boost our CTR :)
 
Yes, we should definitely let our personal feelings get involved in this post. let's stick to the main topic of making and testing out an arbitrage page.

If we stick to the original topic and we all watch as we test out this arbitrage website/keywords...we'll eventually reach a consensus(from the site's CTR/statistics) what would be a good setup for arbitrage sites. so lets leave the Honda page issue to the side right now. If we need to, we can go into the "right picture argument" later.

So let's just be happy=D
 
juniodude said:
Yes, we should definitely let our personal feelings get involved in this post. let's stick to the main topic of making and testing out an arbitrage page.

If we stick to the original topic and we all watch as we test out this arbitrage website/keywords...we'll eventually reach a consensus(from the site's CTR/statistics) what would be a good setup for arbitrage sites. so lets leave the Honda page issue to the side right now. If we need to, we can go into the "right picture argument" later.

So let's just be happy=D
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I dont think anyones feelings got hurt. I think so sort of discussion/arguing is good. If you can’t take someone disagreeing with you. Then you probably shouldn't post on this forum. Did I take what chrislingle said personally hell no, and I hope he and everyone else on the forum is the same way. Disagreeing helps develop and check the validity and reevaluate ideas. I will admit I probably took it a little too far.

About the picture topic, I will say it once again that MFA site's landing page is fine. My picture suggestion is only a suggestion. The page would turn a profit a small one probably considering the niche, but one none the less. Would the picture suggestion make a difference? Probably a very small one considering this is one page, and the profit returning from this page would be smaller. But what does add up is if you have many of these sites then pictures, layouts, etc start making a difference. I made the suggestions I made because this thread is about arbitrage. I have been running arbitrage for a decent amount of time to have extensive data on it. I made my suggestions for the benefit of others on here because I would hope you would not put all you eggs into one arbitrage site. Then think you can quit your day job. You will have to have many were these tips and tricks start to either earn you more or not implementing them cost you more. I made my suggestion because it was my understanding of this thread is to help people in what is involved in arbitrage and offer up experiences along with doing a test. In closing, I will say again I think disagreeing is great just make sure you don't do it like me and go too far with it :)
Good luck to ever one.
 
juniodude said:
Yes, we should definitely let our personal feelings get involved in this post. let's stick to the main topic of making and testing out an arbitrage page.

If we stick to the original topic and we all watch as we test out this arbitrage website/keywords...we'll eventually reach a consensus(from the site's CTR/statistics) what would be a good setup for arbitrage sites. so lets leave the Honda page issue to the side right now. If we need to, we can go into the "right picture argument" later.

So let's just be happy=D
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Agreed. We could also run one set of pictures for a couple of days and then the other set for a couple days to see who wins the "right picture argument" for this niche. But I would think it would depend on the niche and the traffic you are sending, because personally I could care less for a hopped up honda (which may affect what I click because I might not even know the difference), so if your traffic was a bunch of Jdogs vs a bunch of racers you would see a difference.

I think it is all in the testing of your site and your traffic.
 
Also, I will say there is no get rich at arbitrage formula. What works well for one person will not work for everyone. Plus, why don’t you take hints from people in here like chrislingle and myself and actually go do testing yourself. We don’t need anymore threads on arbitrage. We have about 50 pages on arbitrage here with all the info in them to help you get started and be successful. Just like everything else it takes making that leap and doing your testing. You might get different results than what is in here that is the beauty of business there are tons of routes to go. If you get different results (as represented here between chrislingle and myself) don’t throw them out just go with them. You might find a way that works for you that is contrary to someone else. Or it might fit what you are planning to do or style better. There are many ways to make money in the marketing world. It is ever changing so it takes you the marketer to always be thinking of what you can do next instead of just being stuck on one thing. Do what is working well, but always plan for the future. Take the info here and GO DO THE DAMN THING. We can all sit on the porch discussing it all day long but I don’t know about you but I am in this for money. It takes work and testing to make money.
 
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