US Government Shutdown What does this mean For Us And affiliate Marketing ?
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Birthcontrol pill, depo shot...whatever ever other form of contraception. Without insurance that stuff can be up to hundreds per month.
Listen, here's the deal. Planned parenthood is awesome for many many different reasons. If your argument is that you're against federally funded programs in general, fine, but when politicians start singling out planned parenthood when there are sooooo many REALLY worthless programs out there bleeding the budget dry then it's obvious this is just about the moral majority taking over and nothing else, so people are going to be pissed, naturally.
How bout we start with that useless abstinence program (more than 1.3 billion dollars) instead, aye?
So her family is paying for insurance but the a doctor get's to make a decision based on his morals as to whether or not they can make use of the benefits of that insurance?
Fuck that noise.
You're right but once little twats start watching jersey shore or tila tequila any sex education immediately goes out the window. They all want to go wild and bone the situation and pauly d without protection then inevitably crowd planned parenthood in mass numbers. The media machine is printing out these stinking turd teenagers and somehow it must be stopped.
I have a feeling a lot of you guys have either never had sex or didn't have a highschool GF that you had sex with. And your looking from the outside in and just coming up with bullshit. First off its cheaper to prevent unwanted children then having a child grow up with a single mom who is unprepared in raising said child (especially from a social economic view:watch Freakonomics). Screening STD's helps slow down the spread of STD's. Sex education also helps slow the spread of STD's.
From a personal experience with PP. I had a GF in highschool when we were 16 we would have sex without pills. We had way too many "scares" so she asked her mom to get birth control. Her mom would not take her to the doctor to get birth control. She didn't want her daughter having sex but we were going to anyways. And there are many many parents out there that are just like this.
So my GF went to PP and got birth control for free. And I think she would have had to pay for it when she turned 18. She didn't need her parents permission to get the pills. Therefore it made sex a lot "safer". If she would have gotten pregnant at 16 she would have gotten kicked out. Had to find some shitty job. Would have gotten food stamps, health insurance, WIC, and all sorts of other benefits. I would have to worry about supporting a kid at 16. Wouldn't have been able to go to college for football. Would probably join the military as an only option... And some of you fuckers are going to say you shouldn't have had sex if you knew the consequences blah blah blah. When your a horny teen its in your blood to fuck. Just because you didn't have sex and wanted too so bad. Don't say shit like that.
From a personal experience with PP. I had a GF in highschool when we were 16 we would have sex without pills. We had way too many "scares" so she asked her mom to get birth control. Her mom would not take her to the doctor to get birth control. She didn't want her daughter having sex but we were going to anyways. And there are many many parents out there that are just like this.
So my GF went to PP and got birth control for free. And I think she would have had to pay for it when she turned 18. She didn't need her parents permission to get the pills. Therefore it made sex a lot "safer". If she would have gotten pregnant at 16 she would have gotten kicked out. Had to find some shitty job. Would have gotten food stamps, health insurance, WIC, and all sorts of other benefits. I would have to worry about supporting a kid at 16. Wouldn't have been able to go to college for football. Would probably join the military as an only option... And some of you fuckers are going to say you shouldn't have had sex if you knew the consequences blah blah blah. When your a horny teen its in your blood to fuck. Just because you didn't have sex and wanted too so bad. Don't say shit like that.
My wife and I (my girlfriend from high school) were taught to never do something unless you can handle the consequences.
The consequences of sex =
1. Orgasm (great)
2. Pregnancy (bad)
We didn't have sex until we got married (after we both graduated from college).
Call us old fashioned, call us Christian fanatics, call us whatever you want - I call it responsible.
PS: Now that we're married we fuck like bunnies.
I couldn't agree with this statement more. It's profitable for some corporations, the makers of Condoms, BC pills, and KY, at least, for the idea of "sex is for responsible folks only" to be attacked and discarded.
Some of you are thinking when you read that last sentence, "just a happy coincidence for them" - But once you have seen the Century of the Self and understand how capitalism really works, you'll know that it has a very large, if not dominant role in the causality of our view towards sex today.
Stopping them, however, is problematic to say the least. Why don't you try and stop Exxon and BP from spilling Oil first? Should be easier.
I never understood that no whoopie before marriage but then Im also from Sweden
and its another discussion.I think responsible sex is taking care of yourself. How hard is it to put a condom on?
It has less to do with killing babies and more to do with the fact that many people don't want to have tax dollars come out of their paycheck so that other people can abort their babies for free.
I don't really care what the reason is... an abortion is inexpensive. If you want one, pay for it yourself, don't take it out of my taxes to provide free abortions to all.
If you think this is JUST about PP, your wrong. Real wrong. This is about balancing the budget, cutting shit down, and cleaning up house. All programs were looked at and PP was one of the one on the chopping block. It wasnt on the chopping block because of abortions, but that is what it turned into.
You guys really need to understand politics. If you have ever ran for any office successfully in your life or tried to persuade people to do something for you, you learn that you need to hit home with ideas and topics that they can relate to and that causes an emotional trigger with them. ( sounds like affiliate marketing weight loss and make money at home campaigns, eh ).
Shit works for a reason. Ok, whats at the core of republican issues and democrat issues. Write them down and you will see some top republican issues will be:
NRA
Right to life
Cutting gov spending
Funding business
So when you wanna pass something you KNOW the democrats will not let go thru, how better to get support from you followers then to just outright say PP funds abortions thru fed monies? The democrats do the same thing as well on their issues.
If you were to come out and say, lets cut PP because we dont have the monies, people wouldnt understand. If you say lets cut spending on PP because they fund abortions then you get a whole political movement behind you and garner more support from your own party.
This has nothing to do with abortions, and about the use of whatever trigger possible to get your party behind you for your budget cut. This PP shit just happened to be the biggest hot button on the table and the one that could be made out into the biggest deal possible. The republicans knew this and so did the democrats. Instead of coming out and saying lets cut PP, they came out and said lets cut abortions.
Wither or not I believe in abortions or not inst the case here, but if I was against it, I couldn't see how PP could even run as a business on its own without the funding of the government. If abortions are only 10% of its business and no gov. funding goes to that, then that means the gov flips the bill for 90% of its other services that include paying its rent, elec, salaries, etc. Take away that 90% and I can say for sure I think the private funding they get would not keep them afloat.
With that above, it is safe to assume that gov. money does help pay for free abortions by the simple fact alone that is helps facilitate it., simple and clear. Gov. money is basically an accomplice to abortions in this case.
As a test, lets cut funding for 12 months and see if PP can now stay afloat and afford to pay for free abortions now. If they can, great! Issue solved.
Again, Im not saying im for or against, Im pointing out how I see it above from a centered viewpoint.
When you make something free and then take it away, people bitch no matter what.
Minor derail:
The threat of a gov shutdown was due largely to the debt ceiling. Here's a synopsis for anyone interested:
Debt ceiling: What you need to know - Jan. 4, 2011
It's dated Jan. 4, but seems to have been updated yesterday.
Some chuckle-worthy quotes:
The threat of a gov shutdown was due largely to the debt ceiling. Here's a synopsis for anyone interested:
Debt ceiling: What you need to know - Jan. 4, 2011
It's dated Jan. 4, but seems to have been updated yesterday.
Some chuckle-worthy quotes:
lol we're doomed.
You forget that a doctor is a business of his own. He gets to chose what medicine you take, what insurance plans he accepts, what employees he hires, what patients he takes, etc, just like a regular business.
Im not saying his reasoning is sound, but what gives me the right to judge him. Just like it is no right of mine to bash the porno shops and payday loan sharks all up and down the streets of Amercia. Its their right to own that shop, do business in that niche, and run it as they see fit. If I dont agree with it, I simply dont do business there.
Her family paying for insurance is a moot point. Insurance just gives you the ability to be seen by a healthcare provider at a reduced rate, not wither or not you actually get the service, they approve of it, or its the right one for you.
It one of the biggest scams going on today. Just cause you have insurance doesn't mean you can get procedures like "lap band" or restorative eyesight surgeries just cause you want them. Its also doesnt mean that if you do get it, the insurance will approve of it or even if the first doctor you chose will approve to even do it. Also sadly, since most doctors will only perform service that the insurance pays for, it also means you might get a 2nd or 3rd tier procedure that the insurance will pay for, but not the 1st tier ( best choice for you ) because it was not covered or paid for 100%. Therefor the doctor never brings it up to you as an option and you just take what he tells you.
If you dont like what you have, change it
Let's not forget that pharmaceutical companies and insurance companies have reps that hit those doctors up with kickbacks and deals if they push their product - so you will also only hear about (sometimes not, but most of the time you do) those treatments, medicines, and insurance that they get the most benefit from.
^^ this for the truth.
Evolution happens for a reason. I see no reason in helping those that have not thought out their consequences to their actions when other people have paid their dues and done things the right way so there would be no consequences for them. If we change that, then we need to let out a lot of convicted prisoners in our jail system too.
If we remove consequences, then we might as well let people do things like trespass, murder, steal, distribute drugs, etc. Why do we need to help out people that have sex and dont care now? How about the people that routinely dont pay their bills, should they get free help? How about those that abuse drugs too? they need some free help? Where does it stop?
Teens also abuse drugs "because they young and uneducated" or many other reasons, just like they have sex. But I dont see why I need to spend billions of dollars to get them out of their jam because they didnt care enough to think about what they were doing. We have tons of teen drug abusers and drink and drivers and I can understand maybe a first time offense getting off, but I dont think we should have a program setup to get these people out of their jam everytime they fuck up afterwards, which is what I think PP is.
You wanna fuck.. cool, but go buy your condoms.
You wanna fuck.. cool, get your own pills.
You got some funky STD, yeah it happens.. but you should probably have a job that has insurance and go to your own GP, and select your partners better next time.
Got raped? different story all together and I would fully support someone getting free support thru the actions of rape like an abortion.
Buy a damn condom at least. Pay for your own pills and shots.
I know people that have diabetes that dont get to eat crabs and sugars. If they did, they might die. I dont see a program where if you are diabetic and decide to pig out on a sugar coated bread roll, you can run down and have the gov. give your free insulin shots and free medical treatment to support your eating binge habits.
you're just as bad as the politicians arguing that we can't fund fucking abortions. FEDERAL MONEY DOES NOT FUND ABORTIONS. I even said in one of my posts that you cannot receive free abortions at Planned Parenthood, you either have to pay or have health insurance.
Argue the issue, not your morals.
By that reasoning, the lack of taxation on muslim worshipping centers facilitates extremism. We should tax them for 12 months and see if they can keep their wars going. If they can, great! issue solved.