US Government Shutdown What does this mean For Us And affiliate Marketing ?
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just in case anyone wants to check facts on the Clinton administration and the Federal Deficit...
"The Myth of the Clinton Surplus"
"The Myth of the Clinton Surplus"
For the record, Obama jumps to the top because he had the balls to put the two wars (now 3) on the books as opposed to the previous idiot president who did not..
Since alot of you seem to have some real issues with poor people maybe it would help if you thought of all the college kids working their ass off in school that have no health care and no money and planned parenthood is right there for preventative care that helps them continue to go to college and work their ass off. #justsayin
what preventive care are you talking about... the morning after bill and shit? or like flu shots?
Pretty much every student health center in the United States gives away free condoms to their students now.
At my measly public university, if someone wanted condoms, they just needed to walk into the student health center, grab them from the jar, and walk out.
No argument here except you need to substitute "working their ass" with "partying their ass" to more accurately reflect today's American college student...
also, how about some responsibility when your old enough to be in college? Go to the store and fucking buy some condoms for christ sakes, we dont need to have something set up to give them to you for free. Or just go into any gas station restroom and put in 3 quarters and turn the knob for the ones with studs on them.
Next time I need a couple grand, i'd like to walk in somewhere and take it from a jar and leave.
Next time I need a couple grand, i'd like to walk in somewhere and take it from a jar and leave.
regular STD screenings, sex education, long term birth control methods (IUD, shots, etc)
I kinda feel the screenings could be just done in regular trip to the doctor personally.
The education, I feel kinda odd on. I mean who didnt go to a school where they didnt show you this in like 7th grade with the biology teacher and a video to watch all week as part of sex ed in school?
The birth control methods too could be handled in a doctors office. I dont ever remember any of my GF's or my wife ever going to PP to get that stuff.
Im not saying anything bad about PP, dont get me wrong.. but like a lot of the stuff their doing is already done in a doctors office the way I see it. If its all about the cost and shit, well I feel thats the same as the rest of life. If I want my car fixed after an accident, I should have had insurance. If I want groceries to feed myself, I need a job to make money to buy them, etc.
Im just not sure WHY we need PP when a trip to your local doctors office or clinic can take care of this. With Obama's promise of social healthcare, why would we really need PP if student in college will be covered under their parents? I know thats still a way off, but we need to think about it as it will come up again
Most colleges already offer just about all of this to their students, including all preventative care for not just birth control. On top of that, most colleges also have a student health insurance plan that offers things like hospitalization (it's your typical plan), but it can be added to the university bill. Technical/community colleges don't, but the college student you're referring to will typically have access to all of this.
Many of them are still on their parents' insurance anyways.
If someone can prove that Planned Parenthood actually creates a net gain (as in the cost of funding them outweighs the cost of kids on welfare or SSI or whatever) then I probably won't care as much. I morally disagree with abortion, but feel it needs to be legal, but at the same time don't want that specific procedure to be funded federally.
2 years ago, when my girlfriend was 21, she went in to get per birth control pills from her GP (her parents have an HMO) and he refused to give them to her because he did not condone premarital sex. She would have had to pay out of pocket if it weren't for Planned Parenthood not making moral decisions on her behalf.
In all honesty though, why didnt she just pay for them out of pocket.
I see what your saying I really do D. But from my viewpoint its like this:
1. If I want a cell phone, I work a job.. save money.. buy the phone with my savings and pay the monthly bill.
2. If I wanna have sex, I buy the condoms ( in my case ) but if I was a woman I would think if I wanted to have sex id get my pills first before having sex or save up the money if I couldnt get them and pay of them out of pocket.
I think the thing that worries me more is NOT PP itself, but the culture we are making that says, "do what you want, dont worry about it, we can fix it later for you and we can fix it for free too!". Once you give up the free aspect of it, people go apeshit.
Does anyone understand that or Im I just way too far right?
valid points, though I am more of a fan of the education route of "do what you want, but here's all the fucked up shit that's gonna happen to your dick/life/wallet if you aren't smart about it you dummy".
Alas, the vast majority of America is so retarded that no amount of sex education will sway them away from timing their pullouts perfectly and instead slipping a piece of $.50 latex on to save them a shit ton of cash (and heartache) of an unplanned kiddie popping out 9 months later.
Who knows though, maybe the genius of Palin & company will convince Americans that if we just don't talk about sex and safety, everyone will just stop doing it.
You know youd hit Palin AND Bristol and then pull out and make them go to PP for the morning after if you could.. dont deny it.