Prices double For New Thread. 77$ Matters :(

Jon,
Why are you Taking this seriously. For a small seller like me who is just in his starting phase, yeah for a second it was a shocking but that is also a fact that i never been to any forum other than Wf in my 2 year of Seo business because i like being here. I am not flattering or saying words to forgive me what i said at first. Just wanna let you know, that those words just came out from my mouth unintentionally (should not be taken as in bitching or any other sense)
Rest its you sir
I will respect you and your decision anyways! :)
Thanx

You don't like to read much eh?

Then you'd know I'm not a fan of brown nosers or rats.

You're a bit of both.

And since you're so pathetic... I'll make you a deal..

NINE THOUSAND DOLLARS PER THREAD.

Fucking whining and lying bastard....
 


Jon,
Why are you Taking this seriously. For a small seller like me who is just in his starting phase, yeah for a second it was a shocking but that is also a fact that i never been to any forum other than Wf in my 2 year of Seo business because i like being here. I am not flattering or saying words to forgive me what i said at first. Just wanna let you know, that those words just came out from my mouth unintentionally (should not be taken as in bitching or any other sense)
Rest its you sir
I will respect you and your decision anyways! :)
Thanx

How does Jons colon smell?

In case you're retarded as I think (Jon =>) :love-smiley-083: (<= you)
 
Oh you again...

So, let me get this straight you little shithead. You decided, that of all the things to comment on in regards to a pricing change, to bring up a comparison between two forums that are completely different in terms of content, active user demographics, maturity and goals, all while having no actual facts to base it off of.

I mean, do you have access to our stats? Or are you basing it off of third party guesstimates? Yeah.. I think you are...

And of all the things, you're making a comparison to justify the price increase as if VOLUME is our primary concern.

Please sir, if volume is our primary goal here, where are the ads based on cpm?

Where are our ads all over the interwebz trying to invite every newbie and their third world country family over here to populate the forum?

If volume were still our goal, wouldn't we not discourage and promote a hazing newbies attitude of "adapt or die" or better yet put as "either you're one of us, or you had better shut the fuck up".

I mean, if volume were the goal here, and because you are CLEARLY the expert of all traffic related informations of the world Mr SEO God over there... Then, why do we put so much effort into NOT just approving everyone, or not banning everyone, or putting up with the typical brown nosing regurgitated bullshit that everyone else is totally cool with??

I have an idea, since you want to pick a fight... Let's have an SEO competition afterall.

You go and pick your team of experts, and I'll pick mine from this forum.

Let's see if you can do reputation management for all of your clients that we're going to rank WickedFire for. I'll give you 90 days.

At the end of the contest, I'll de-index the threads after you've lost. You will admit absolute defeat. Write with a spoon pic as proof, WICKEDFIRE PWNED ME AT SEO across your forehead... and agree to never log in here ever again.

If you do win, you'll get more respect and admiration from the vast volume of volume and volume volume volume... Right? Volume?

I think that's a fair fight. If you're going to pick one, at least pick on someone who doesn't have bigger friends than you.

I'll take Ilya, Barry/Grind, Ice2Eskimos, and .... two more guys want to volunteer? PM me. So, we'll have no more than 7-8 guys on our team.

You pick up to 20 guys.


OR

You can take a ban right now and fuck off right back to the little cave in the mountain's ass that you came from you dickhead...

I'm sick of people like you. Not gonna put up with it anymore. You love BHW so much? Fine, go there. I like BHW just fine. I believe they serve a purpose just like any other forum. But don't come here and play these games just because you're upset for not being noticed or important.

You're a pussy, so I will treat you like a pussy. And you will be fucked, just the way a pussy is supposed to get fucked.

I'm going off hard facts. Those facts are from services I've offered here and at BHW together. When I'm saying volume, I'm not talking about pure visitors, but order volume. And yes, if you're going off the same volume metric I'm using, then BHW does push more volume. Volume = sales, not visitors.

Where'd I ever mention anything about your concern? Where'd I mention anything about ANYONE's concern? I merely said that it's odd you're choosing to charge more than a comparable forum, when said forum pushes more volume for sellers. I'm not the only one who has noticed BHW pushing more volume for service sellers. I also wasn't bitching about $77, because it doesn't matter. If I'm ROI positive, who gives a shit?

No idea why you're talking CPM, has no relevance to my point. I don't give a shit if WF or BHW gets more visitors. I only care about one thing when I'm selling something, and that's the number of buyers.

No idea why you're bringing up BHW's demographic when I've said they have more retards over there.

SEO competition? Only if you're willing to pay for me to do it. I choose to spend my efforts making more money than trying to show I've a larger swinging dick.

If you ban me, then it is what it is. Not sure why you're so upset over me stating what I can prove via my Wufoo records. Again, I only stated that it was weird that you chose to raise it to $77, not bitch about you choosing to raise it.

There's a reason why I post here and not over there. I only put up with the retards at BHW when I have to, and that's when I choose to sell there.
 
What are you, like a mute kid? Can't type?

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After all this years, i still love it when our Führer comes out of his cave, raging like a gay grizzly, bitchslapping everybody left and right.

You don't fuck with a Jew and his money, fucking noobs.
 
I'm not the only one who has noticed BHW pushing more volume for service sellers. I also wasn't bitching about $77, because it doesn't matter. If I'm ROI positive, who gives a shit?

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I only stated that it was weird that you chose to raise it to $77, not bitch about you choosing to raise it.

There's a reason why I post here and not over there. I only put up with the retards at BHW when I have to, and that's when I choose to sell there.

The problem is you overlooked the quality aspect of the forum. WF has a high barrier to entry, people for the most part are fair and don't whine about orders like they do on other forums. So it really should not be a surprise, like a higher end model car - you pay a premium for. Same goes for higher-end forums or anything.

You are think about it from a basic supply and demand. Since other forums allow, in your words, "more volume", but what does that include? More headaches, more refunds, definitely more idiots to deal with. Also, WF has actual people with big money and willing to test drive shit, and if it doesn't work out, no biggie. The only negative thing I see that could happen is if you don't deliver what you stated you would.

And for the person who said the customer is alwas right, no motherfuckers, not if they are retarded or idiots. If a retarded person goes to a Bentley dealership trying to negotiate price, would they even entertain them?

The crazy part is you can offer any decent service on WF and be almost guaranteed to fall into money. A couple of people are pulling 10k a week min and they aren't bitching. In fact they welcome the higher price, cause its less competition.

You shouldn't be surprised when prices go up on a high quality product or service. What you should worry about is when prices go down, cause that's when the flood gates of bullshit comes in.

Whether you are doing SEO for clients, buying clothes at a department store, buying office space or furniture, that price you see takes into consideration quality.

You get what you pay for, period. There is a great book called the Culture Code that goes into great detail about why big companies with quality services, can charge what they charge, and really the reasoning behind it (and cultural aspects of marketing).

Carry on...
 
I'm going off hard facts. Those facts are from services I've offered here and at BHW together. When I'm saying volume, I'm not talking about pure visitors, but order volume. And yes, if you're going off the same volume metric I'm using, then BHW does push more volume. Volume = sales, not visitors.
TBH BHW sales thread doesnt looks so legit there so many fake reviews too......When you do that here your ass will be kicked....
wait a min sales..... nah WF generates more than BHW, my best week had more than $XXXX here but in BHW u should pay $280 to do that even i am not sure u will generate such huge sales......
 
Jon,
Why are you Taking this seriously. For a small seller like me who is just in his starting phase, yeah for a second it was a shocking but that is also a fact that i never been to any forum other than Wf in my 2 year of Seo business because i like being here. I am not flattering or saying words to forgive me what i said at first. Just wanna let you know, that those words just came out from my mouth unintentionally (should not be taken as in bitching or any other sense)
Rest its you sir
I will respect you and your decision anyways! :)
Thanx


There's not a lot of things you can say on Wickedfire without being called an idiot, peasant or faggot.

We have had complaining threads earlier but it looks like you got unlucky this time. Jon is not in a mood to let it go this time

We had people getting all butthurt when WF started charging $$ at first after staying free for a long time. Even those who made hundreds of thousands off of free traffic here were bitching, but now I guess they won't because the message now is Adapt or GTFO :485:

I also got called faggot and peasant for pointing out people selling outside BST (long before this )
 
While making everyone start a new thread puts established vendors at a disadvantage, it does give new vendors a fighting chance.

Obviously the system isn't ideal for anyone, or perhaps everyone, but it is vastly superior to the scammy shithole BST was becoming a year ago.

LOL. This is how people change their stance when its about 'embrace or die'.

You're the same asshat selling outside BST for a long time.. and bitching about how WF has gone to shit ever since they charged charging $$