Peanut Butter - The Atheist's Nightmare

[papajohn56]

Yup. It's really intriguing how the solar systems of our galaxy look pretty much exactly like atoms of a much larger cell. In nature you can find that satellite-orbiting-a-Nucleus shape on many different scales. Total Men In Black shit.

this model/analogy is actually false -

"Despite the obvious analogy to planets revolving around the Sun, electrons cannot be described as solid particles. In addition, atomic orbitals do not closely resemble a planet's elliptical path in ordinary atoms. A more accurate analogy might be that of a large and often oddly-shaped "atmosphere" (the electron), distributed around a relatively tiny planet (the atomic nucleus). One difference is that some of an atom's electrons have zero angular momentum, so they cannot in any sense be thought of as moving "around" the nucleus, as a planet does. Other electrons do have varying amounts of angular momentum."

orbitals are just a convenient way to describe energy levels of electrons

 

[papajohn56]

I believe a quark is smaller than an atom.

When most people think of the universe being infinite, they probably think of it in terms of traveling through it forever and ever without ever reaching its end. But it is also infinitely small...as it is infinitely big. Relatively speaking, of course.

I'm talking about some Horton Hears a Who shit. Smoke a joint and re-read this and you will understand.

mmm sort of. current loop quantum gravity theory states that there is a smallest unit of measure, called Planck length for all currently accepted dimensions - ℓ = 16.163×10^−36 meters.

also a quark is smaller, but so are electrons, protons, and neutrons, those were found way before quarks. don't forget Leptons, photons, gluons, and the Weak/Strong force particles. Also the theoretical higgs boson.

Leptons include: muons, neutrinos, tau leptons, and actually the electron is a type of lepton. Muons are constantly barraging us from space, but have a short decay time, so funny enough muons due to their speed undergo time dilation, so their frame of reference is different from ours, making their existence time 'longer' to us than it should be.

 

[WickedWeasel]

seeded by what?

Probably he means bacteria... seeded...:food-smiley-010:

 

[LotsOfZeros]

Have to disagree.

Creationists = Blind faith
Evolutionists = Looking for proof and 100% open to other possibilities if they present themselves with proof

Without valid proof, all faith is blind.

 

[papajohn56]

Without valid proof, all faith is blind.

There's plenty of evidence behind evolution - denying it doesn't make it not so. even the Catholic church accepts evolution and says it doesn't conflict with the Bible. That's the official stance from the Pope himself and has been for some time.

Catholic Church and evolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Intelligent design isn't science even though it pretends to be. If you want to teach it in schools, intelligent design should be taught when religion or cultural history is taught, not science." - Fr. Coyne, Vatican chief astronomer

"[T]he faithful have the obligation to listen to that which secular modern science has to offer, just as we ask that knowledge of the faith be taken in consideration as an expert voice in humanity." - Cardinal Paul Poupard

Ignoring scientific evidence is willful ignorance, and only hurts us and holds us back. Do we really want a second dark age?

 

[LotsOfZeros]

Evidence != Proof

Proof is not circumstantial

 

[papajohn56]

Evidence != Proof

Proof is not circumstantial

And the evidence provided in evolution isn't circumstantial either. You can't prove God exists at all, much less creation theory, so I could say you have no non-circumstantial evidence. All evolutionary theory is backed by 100+ years of observation into micro and macroscopic organisms, and on top of that, millions of years of fossil record.

 

[emp]

"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"
- Isaac Asimov

Someone still doesn't get the difference between abiogenesis and evolution?
And there are people on WF that don't know the scientific understanding of the word "theory"?

Guess I logged into the wrong WF today.

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[turbolapp]

Reeses Species FTW!

Nice.

 

[turbolapp]

ah yes.. That reminds me now that I'm not job hunting anymore, I can put Pastafarian back as my religious views on fb

Dude make your fb unsearchable. You should be doing that anyways.

I will not be censored.

 

[nickster]

There's plenty of evidence behind evolution - denying it doesn't make it not so. even the Catholic church accepts evolution and says it doesn't conflict with the Bible. That's the official stance from the Pope himself and has been for some time.

Don't even get me started on Papal decrees. Although they can be thought of as progressive they make a total mockery of the religion. How can something be so and then because a pope says it it now becomes not so? It's totally counterintuitive, either it is or it isn't.

And papal infallibility, hmmm, well we don't have to look very far to see the irony in that.

The current pope himself is a protector of child rapists (previous popes were even more active) and helped to spread the practice by moving these sick predators around to unknowing parishes.

Religion is and always has been a pariah and nothing more.

 

[(O_o)]

Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, just as it is the spirit of a spiritless situation. It is the opium of the people. ~ Marx

 

[cougarclaws]

Dude make your fb unsearchable. You should be doing that anyways.

I will not be censored.

It is. But I've heard that some employers will ask you to friend them during interviews so HR can poke around your shit. If you refuse, you look like you have something to hide. It took about 45 minutes to delete all of the pictures of me drinking.

 

[Rusky]

Religion is and always has been a pariah and nothing more.

And its also responsible for the western culture, some of us love so much.

 

[emp]

And its also responsible for the western culture, some of us love so much.

Err....no, or .. only in so far as western culture has dragged Christianity as a backgorund with it.

Religion is responsible for the dark ages, the renaissance and the modern state and science are responsible for the advancement of mankind.

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[nickster]

Funny how religion claims responsibility for morality, like everyone was going around stealing raping and killing everyone before the ten commandments right?

I am failing to understand what positivity religion actually has given to our planet.

 

[BradleyT2p2]

And its also responsible for the western culture, some of us love so much.

Sweden is 85% athiests. You never hear anything bad about Sweden do you?

Anyway, we all won the lottery of life
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOXMjCnKwb4]YouTube - Tribute to Richard Dawkins: We Are Going to Die[/ame]

 

[nickster]

Oh yeah and apparently now the Jews did not kill Christ

Jews not to blame for death of Jesus, claims Pope in dispute over Bible passage | Mail Online

What the hell is Mel Gibson going to do now?

 

[papajohn56]

Sweden is 85% athiests. You never hear anything bad about Sweden do you?

what? don't make things up, while Sweden is dropping in church membership, they're still a majority religious:

Religion in Sweden - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[BradleyT2p2]

Several studies have found Sweden to be one of the most atheist countries in the world. According to Davie (1999), 80% of Swedes do not believe in God.[13]