Martin Grunin - Facebook Ads Fraud - Bank Fraud - mgrunin

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Kiopa_Matt said:
Only issue is, federal prosecutors in the US have what? A 96% conviction rate, or something close to that?
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The US is a good place to be guilty. The defense system is more amenable to loop holes than for example English Law.

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So, what would you do in his place? Keep some monies on Caymans, and run from the US, to country like Equador or Venesuela when shit hits fan? Or would you choose to stay and fight legal battle with feds?
 
editeur said:
So, what would you do in his place? Keep some monies on Caymans, and run from the US, to country like Equador or Venesuela when shit hits fan? Or would you choose to stay and gight legal battle with feds?
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Stay and fight, he didn't murder anyone.
 
37. However, by the time Facebook discovered the fraud, Grunin had used the
“Thinkmodo” accounts to run approximately $40,000 worth of deceptive ads, including
misleading ads that appeared to be endorsed by celebrities Jennifer Lopez and Dr. Oz.
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lol fake Dr Oz endorsements..

. Grunin then used the account to run at least $300,000 worth of ads that
violated Facebook’s Terms.
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never understood the thinking behind using your real, full name on internet marketing forums, especially when you are involved in anything remotely blackhat.
 
unfortunately this just fuels the " internet marketers are a fraud" theory I always read about when it comes to young people making monies online. fuck this. I wanted success for him cause Im in the same age bracket. I want to get there too. Cant get to the top without scamming someone first its seems. what a let down
 
manihatethis said:
unfortunately this just fuels the " internet marketers are a fraud" theory I always read about when it comes to young people making monies online. fuck this. I wanted success for him cause Im in the same age bracket. I want to get there too. Cant get to the top without scamming someone first its seems. what a let down
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That's not true. You can absolutely get to the top without scamming someone.

You're forgetting that most people that do scam and fraud, actively or in a big way, also try and cover it up with the well crafted success story that they borrow from other legitimate ones and pawn off as their own.

Of course, once they are caught and/or exposed few people ever see it for what it was. Just one lie covering more lies... But it's easier to generalize it and shit on things you didn't understand in the first place.

This is just another nail in the never ending stream of nails for the coffin that will eventually be laid to rest for the affiliate marketing industry. It sucks, but it's the grave reality and future of this once fine industry.

I liked Martin. But he's a scammer and blatantly lied and cheated.. Just because one guy lies or cheats less than the next, does it make him any worse? I don't even know anymore because it happens so often.

But hey, turn that frown upside down! :)
 
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