I want a new laptop Cant Choose What to get ? Macbook Pro... Or a PC laptop
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Barrier to entry.
You have to convince hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of software applications to be re-developed or adapted to your new OS.
Which will cut into their time, manpower and profits.
And will only make them money if you are selling enough of your PCs to make such an investment profitable for them.
Which will only happen if customers buy your PCs. Which they won't because there isn't any software you can run on it.
Vicious cycle, my friend.
Hahaha, those gaming laptops are very impractical and overpriced. So chunky/heavy and they are also loud as fuck when you are actually running games. Plus you can build a gaming rig WAY better than that for about 1/4 the price. Why would you want to game on a laptop anyway? I'd imagine the gaming laptop niche is for those who travel like crazy and love to play COD in between. But if you aren't I don't see the point. Just get a decent laptop and a gaming PC at home.
For laptops, I say go Macbook, you can't go wrong. I'm not even a Mac guy. I don't even own one, but I have had experience with the Macbook pros and it is out of the box a very good machine and there is no tinkering, no nonsense required.
PC laptops on the other hand are headaches and are loaded with the deadly combination of Windows AND OEM Bloatware. Plus you can get infected by viruses and malware if your a fucking idiot etc.
Clearly, you've never, ever used this machine nor do you know shit about it. These are known for being extremely powerful, extremely quiet, and very well priced.
This thread is also about laptops, not desktops. Just because they're marketed as "gaming laptops" doesn't signify gaming is their sole purpose.
Viruses and malware exist on OS X. Ignorance is a funny thing, no? Sheep.
This thing is $1000 cheaper than a MBP and a shit ton more powerful, with a shit ton more HDD space.
The malware on windows PCs is a non-issue if you have a working knowledge of what anti-virus and firewall software is.
And you don't download shady looking files.
I've been using PCs for ages, and only ever had trouble back when I was a kid downloading shit I shouldn't have been downloading.
What makes PCs better to me is flat out the options I have in terms of software solutions. I don't see why I would pay so much for a Mac when the software options are gimped as they are on it.
Be smart. Get a PC. Secure it, work trouble-free.
And you don't download shady looking files.
I've been using PCs for ages, and only ever had trouble back when I was a kid downloading shit I shouldn't have been downloading.
What makes PCs better to me is flat out the options I have in terms of software solutions. I don't see why I would pay so much for a Mac when the software options are gimped as they are on it.
Be smart. Get a PC. Secure it, work trouble-free.
Also, @ the OP:
I recently went through the laptop decision gauntlet. Everything new looked like shit. I ended up with a 4 year old Lenovo Thinkpad T60P from eBay because apparently nobody makes good PC laptops anymore. Thing's a fucking tank, it's got fully functional fluid spill drains and the nicest, sturdiest laptop keyboard I've ever used. Kick ass display: a non-gay resolution (good ol' 4:3 @ 1600x1200 on a 15") on a super nice panel (awesome viewing angles). You can't buy that shit for any price anymore.
With a new 7200RPM HD it runs Win 7 super snappy. It won't be doing heavy duty video editing or running Crisis any time soon, but for general business work it's the best $350 I ever spent and I literally don't think you can buy that kind of quality for any price on anything new, Lenovo or otherwise. I figure I'll get at least 2 years out of it, then mourn the death of quality laptop hardware forever.
I recently went through the laptop decision gauntlet. Everything new looked like shit. I ended up with a 4 year old Lenovo Thinkpad T60P from eBay because apparently nobody makes good PC laptops anymore. Thing's a fucking tank, it's got fully functional fluid spill drains and the nicest, sturdiest laptop keyboard I've ever used. Kick ass display: a non-gay resolution (good ol' 4:3 @ 1600x1200 on a 15") on a super nice panel (awesome viewing angles). You can't buy that shit for any price anymore.
With a new 7200RPM HD it runs Win 7 super snappy. It won't be doing heavy duty video editing or running Crisis any time soon, but for general business work it's the best $350 I ever spent and I literally don't think you can buy that kind of quality for any price on anything new, Lenovo or otherwise. I figure I'll get at least 2 years out of it, then mourn the death of quality laptop hardware forever.
Putting Apple fan trolling and thunderbolt technology jokes aside for a moment...
If you want a laptop for anything other than gaming (in otherwords, work), get a Macbook Pro 13" (hook it up to external monitor while at home but can take with you when visting clients).
If you compare them purely from a tech spec perspective, then yes, they look very overpriced but there are not many laptops on the market that can match the build quality that the Macbook Pro brings.
But that's just a cool benefit and not the reason to purchase it.
I have a lot of sensitive data on my computer such as login/passwords for admin panels & hosting, billing details including credit card information, reciepts, invoices etc etc. It's not just my information either, it's client information and I'm responsible for it. If some of the data was ever lost/stolen/copied, I could be in some real shit for a whole host of reasons.
People will (rightfully) say that the idea that Macs don't get viruses, malware or keylogged is bullshit but it's much, much easier to avoid that crap on a Mac than it is a PC. Whether it's due to OSX design or smaller market share, I really don't give a fuck about the why of it.
You'll respond by saying that provided you watch what you click, have a good antivirus program running and use stuff like spybot, that you'll be fine but I don't see the need to risk it.
When my WoW account got jacked (before authenticators came along), I couldn't work out why. I understand how email scams, keylogging etc works and still to this day I don't know how I fucked up. I sure as hell never shared my details with anyone else but at some point, I fucked up. Thankfully, it was a fuckup that only impacted myself and didn't cause trouble beyond a little frustration.
You can say I'm stupid for falling for something like that but I don't really give a fuck. Scammers are getting slicker and I'm getting older (29). At some point, it's possible the 2 curves will meet and swap sides. What if the next fuck up steals a bunch of data and puts my entire business at risk? Worse, what if it put someone elses business at risk?
Not worth the headache or worry. I'll use the less popular and hence less targetted machine and when I want to do a little gaming, I can jump on my desktop PC which is kick ass for gaming but has no sensitive material on it.
Best of both worlds IMO.
If you want a laptop for anything other than gaming (in otherwords, work), get a Macbook Pro 13" (hook it up to external monitor while at home but can take with you when visting clients).
If you compare them purely from a tech spec perspective, then yes, they look very overpriced but there are not many laptops on the market that can match the build quality that the Macbook Pro brings.
But that's just a cool benefit and not the reason to purchase it.
I have a lot of sensitive data on my computer such as login/passwords for admin panels & hosting, billing details including credit card information, reciepts, invoices etc etc. It's not just my information either, it's client information and I'm responsible for it. If some of the data was ever lost/stolen/copied, I could be in some real shit for a whole host of reasons.
People will (rightfully) say that the idea that Macs don't get viruses, malware or keylogged is bullshit but it's much, much easier to avoid that crap on a Mac than it is a PC. Whether it's due to OSX design or smaller market share, I really don't give a fuck about the why of it.
You'll respond by saying that provided you watch what you click, have a good antivirus program running and use stuff like spybot, that you'll be fine but I don't see the need to risk it.
When my WoW account got jacked (before authenticators came along), I couldn't work out why. I understand how email scams, keylogging etc works and still to this day I don't know how I fucked up. I sure as hell never shared my details with anyone else but at some point, I fucked up. Thankfully, it was a fuckup that only impacted myself and didn't cause trouble beyond a little frustration.
You can say I'm stupid for falling for something like that but I don't really give a fuck. Scammers are getting slicker and I'm getting older (29). At some point, it's possible the 2 curves will meet and swap sides. What if the next fuck up steals a bunch of data and puts my entire business at risk? Worse, what if it put someone elses business at risk?
Not worth the headache or worry. I'll use the less popular and hence less targetted machine and when I want to do a little gaming, I can jump on my desktop PC which is kick ass for gaming but has no sensitive material on it.
Best of both worlds IMO.
You either love osx or you dont. Buying a mac course all the cool kids have one tells us enough about you.
Well, I have never worked on a Mac but since I am fed up with these threads and want to put an end to the topic, here it is ...
Go for a PC Laptop.
As for Mac fans: I don't understand how you get to like a company which doesn't even give you a FULL apple for all the money.
Go for a PC Laptop.
As for Mac fans: I don't understand how you get to like a company which doesn't even give you a FULL apple for all the money.
Indeed, I recently purchased the G73SW-XT1 model. This thing is a bonafide multitasking mother fucker. Don't let gaming laptop throw you off, it's a power house laptop, if you wanted super awesome gaming laptop you're going to have to step it up a bit. At $1500 it smokes the base level $2500 27" Macbook Pro at every category except thunderbolt (which lets face it, is a Mac exclusive for now and fairly worthless to most consumers), screen resolution (which anything above whatever x 1080 on a 17" screen is overkill), and battery life (because the MBP run on older crappier hardware). Granted nice case on them there Macbooks, but these Asus laptops are slick in both design (looks like a stealth bomber) and material (a soft rubber like material). Contrary to most gaming level laptops these also run incredibly cool and quiet. For how much you will save, and how much performance you will gain, you can easily afford a good anti-virus.
Finally, LOL at the guy who buys a 13" MBP to only hook it up to a larger monitor most of the time. Fail.
Oh yeah Mac users better stop using Skype for the next week also: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/05/06/skype_for_mac_critical_vulnerability/
Your trolling is getting very, very boring. It's obvious and annoying. Please grow up.
Fair enough, I have had experience with a "gaming laptop" with dual Nvidia cards and it was noisy as shit and ran on about 2 hours of battery, so yes it was unfair for me to assume that all laptops in this category are big, noisy and power hungry as I'm sure there are excellent ones out there. But for my money I'd rather a solid built PC for "gaming" and a decent laptop for mobility needs, as I can't think of any task which I do on a laptop which requires 8GB of RAM, a 4 core processor and 2 video cards which doesn't involve gaming or heavy multimedia editing. Unless of course I was a traveler.
Sheep? I don't even own a Mac at the moment, and in terms of viruses and malware on OS X? Sure they exist, but so do people with 2 heads and 6 fingers. For every OS X virus you can name, there is probably literally 1,000,000 PC viruses and that are still active out there.
And I also said that you'd have to be pretty dumb to get viruses on a PC. I run 3 PCs atm, with 0 virus protection. One PC I hardly use has Spybot but I've never seen a positive result besides tracking cookies. I haven't had problems in many years with Adware/Malware or viruses.
All I'm saying is that to the average hump, Macs are out of the box more complete in terms of software and usability than PCs, and to some people, its worth the extra price to join the cult.
You can flip a coin and literally get a good machine whether it be a Mac or PC.
Actually no, it runs using Wine, on Linux. But to get it to work on Linux you have to take the Windows version, install it on a Windows box, then take those files to your linux box, tweak a bunch of configs, drop specific files in specific folders and then maybe it will work. But not all the features will work. It's not a native app, it doesn't run on Linux. It wasn't designed for Linux and Wine is a hack at best. Afterall Wine isn't even an emulator.
I agree, MBP with multiple monitors, if you care about Windows that much you can just run it on your mac (although I don't see any point in getting a mac just to run Windows).