After Tomorrow No More Rebills

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I got a saying it goes "You shouldn't have been fucking around with snakes if you didn't want to get bitten."
 
1. I have emailed all my AMs that I've moved on, and enjoyed our years and profits together.
2. I have informed our office landlord we're vacating next week.
3. I have stopped all our PPC and PPV campaigns and had our credit balance sent back to us.
4. I have cancelled all hosting, servers, and changed all credit card numbers so the people I've forgotten to contact can't bill us.
5. I have taken all the remaining company funds, and got cash.
6. I cancelled my ASW plane tickets and hotel reservations.

I'll be driving to Vegas instead, but on a different mission:
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Farewell, all. Rebills are dead. I cannot take the skills I have utilized for the last five years in AM and figure out how to do any other type of offer. All is lost. And all that's left, is the bottom of bottles until I'm dead.

We shall name the movie "Leaving Affiliate Marketing". With my luck, instead of hooking up with an Elizabeth Shue lookalike, it will be Rosie O'Donnell.
 
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1. I have emailed all my AMs that I've moved on, and enjoyed our years and profits together.
2. I have informed our office landlord we're vacating next week.
3. I have stopped all our PPC and PPV campaigns and had our credit balance sent back to us.
4. I have cancelled all hosting, servers, and changed all credit card numbers so the people I've forgotten to contact can't bill us.
5. I have taken all the remaining company funds, and got cash.
6. I cancelled my ASW plane tickets and hotel reservations.

I'll be driving to Vegas instead, but on a different mission:
leavinglasvegas-obrien-splash.jpg


Farewell, all. Rebills are dead. I cannot take the skills I have utilized for the last five years in AM and figure out how to do any other type of offer. All is lost. And all that's left, is the bottom of bottles until I'm dead.

We shall name the movie "Leaving Affiliate Marketing". With my luck, instead of hooking up with an Elizabeth Shue lookalike, it will be Rosie O'Donnell.

You forgot to add this at the end of your post
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I told my wife about it and she left me, my kids don't want nothing to do with me.

Anything about the Visa Guidelines come in today?
 
I got a saying it goes "You shouldn't have been fucking around with snakes if you didn't want to get bitten."

I got a saying too. It goes "I need to lay off the goddamn mdma".

Stop acting like regular bread can somehow be transformed into a small place a few different want to read any of the, gobbledygook. Not that it is in any way googglegook and a serious pregnant bond Boring conclusion I feel a 7th ro 8th grade most of our toys but with some extra mega power. This will have to be determined on the size of Katie and how she progressives through this season.


actual contribution-

The forced upsell has to go. I honestly couldn't believe it was being done in the first place when I found out about it, it's technically not compliant to PCI regulations in any way. Advertisers send cc numbers to the receiving upsell company via api and xmlhttprequest which is a large security concern. Not only does the customer not know they are going to be rebilled for the product they initially took the trial for, they are signed up to even 3 additional products/services at a time, most of which are irrelevant utter garbage. If this wasn't ever done the whole regulation and clampdown right now wouldn't be nearly as serious.

VISA/MC is initiating an additional 3 character/letter company identifier on the beginning of the billing descriptor sometime this month. It will change a lot in the fact that merchants won't be able to avoid chargeback monitoring as easily(using 10 separate merchant accounts pushing the same products) unless they open different businesses with different nominated principals. It's not impossible to accomplish with nominee directors and separate company entities, but at this point it's like trying to polish a turd.

The model, being as deceptive as it is, the customer not aware they will be charged later is hard to remain successful for long considering the rebill products values are typically not substantial. Complaints add up, and the US populus, comprised of a large consumer base who have little smarts, sense, or responsibility are going to further regulation through sucking at the teet of the government. Instead of contemplating the concept of buyer beware or a thought process beyond seeing the word "free" and whimsically entering their cc info, they just go for it and then blame everyone else but themself later. I'm not saying it's right to scam people, but everyone in the rebill game relies on these dumbasses to keep the train moving.

The landscape is changing. One can only hope a lot of the brainless scumbag "affiliate marketer" hacks die off from this. Then again I guess you can just start a blog and vaguely reference internet marketing, when in actuality the only substance is promotion of the new network of the week in order to get enough referral money to afford a can of beans for dinner.
 
Some affiliates are making it worse for everyone. Some are doing triple offers now. Two is bad enough, but 3 is just overkilling it.
 
This is good for the industry, no matter what anyone says. And quite frankly - if you cant adjust, or too ignorant to adjust, then AM isnt for you anyway. Your an idiot if you didnt see this coming, considering there were lawsuits all over the place - all stemming from one thing... rebills.

It's everyones fault, the advertisers didnt answer their calls and did huge upsells, the affiliates promoted the products, the networks connected the two parties (and profitted big time from it), and the consumers for not having any common sense.

Just another era of affiliate marketing...
 
Some affiliates are making it worse for everyone. Some are doing triple offers now. Two is bad enough, but 3 is just overkilling it.

The double sell is already an issue. One of the proposed guidelines i saw was asking for the enforcement of only one product on a landing page. If people push the limits this too will become an enforced guideline or just kill the space entirely.

The guidelines that i saw was 4 pages long, most of it related to the pubs actions. Keep pushing and itll be harder for the smart pubs to get a sale.

The biggest issue in this space is consumers see to many charges on their monthly statement. Our guidelines are trying to eliminate this issue without going to far. That is why we are enforcing no up sells and billing the rebill only once in a 30 day period. Some advertisers would bill the S/H on day one, the full rebill on day 15 and another rebill on day 30. Thats 3 charges and if you add the up sells to it the the user was seeing 4-6 charges for buying one product on a single monthly statement. Obviously the consumers get pissed call the banks and the banks need to take action.

Pigs get fat and hogs get slaughtered. Most of the big pubs are making 6 figures a month in profits, even if youre making 5 figures a month, do you really need more???
 
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The double sell is already an issue. One of the proposed guidelines i saw was asking for the enforcement of only one product on a landing page. If people push the limits this too will become an enforced guideline or just kill the space entirely.

The guidelines that i saw was 4 pages long, most of it related to the pubs actions. Keep pushing and itll be harder for the smart pubs to get a sale.

The biggest issue in this space is consumers see to many charges on their monthly statement. Our guidelines are trying to eliminate this issue without going to far. That is why we are enforcing no up sells and billing the rebill only once in a 30 day period. Some advertisers would bill the S/H on day one, the full rebill on day 15 and another rebill on day 30. Thats 3 charges and if you add the up sells to it the the user was seeing 4-6 charges for buying one product on a single monthly statement. Obviously the consumers get pissed call the banks and the banks need to take action.

Pigs get fat and hogs get slaughtered. Most of the big pubs are making 6 figures a month in profits, even if youre making 5 figures a month, do you really need more???

I think the reason with JTM enforcing the 1 product/landing page was that people were using 2 offers from different advertisers. One charged the credit card before the trial ended while the other waited until the end of the trial period. The one charged first might be fine but the one charged late might end up with a cancelled credit card. If you read some of the complaints, you will see that some advertisers are charging hundreds before the trial even ended. JTM coming back with the forced double offers is not a bad since they are somewhat more responsible than other advertisers.
 
The double sell is already an issue. One of the proposed guidelines i saw was asking for the enforcement of only one product on a landing page. If people push the limits this too will become an enforced guideline or just kill the space entirely.

The guidelines that i saw was 4 pages long, most of it related to the pubs actions. Keep pushing and itll be harder for the smart pubs to get a sale.

The biggest issue in this space is consumers see to many charges on their monthly statement. Our guidelines are trying to eliminate this issue without going to far. That is why we are enforcing no up sells and billing the rebill only once in a 30 day period. Some advertisers would bill the S/H on day one, the full rebill on day 15 and another rebill on day 30. Thats 3 charges and if you add the up sells to it the the user was seeing 4-6 charges for buying one product on a single monthly statement. Obviously the consumers get pissed call the banks and the banks need to take action.

Pigs get fat and hogs get slaughtered. Most of the big pubs are making 6 figures a month in profits, even if youre making 5 figures a month, do you really need more???

Our upsells go on the same charge and we dont rebill for 21 days, then another 24, then every 45