Observation After Returning to WF

HI, I'M GEORGE ZIMMER, FOUNDER AND CEO OF THE MEN'S WEARHOUSE. IF YOU DON'T GET YOUR DICK-DRAGGING GOOK CARCASS AWAY FROM MY TURF, I'M GOING TO SHOVE MY SPERM WHALE SO FAR UP YOUR DRAINAGE PIPE THAT YOU'LL BE TASTING THE UNDERWEAR THAT I WEAR UNDER MY DAPPER SUIT FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. I GUARANTEE IT.


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Say what you want... I found this place in July 2010 and have since started two side businesses and generating well over 15k monthly, directly from the knowledge I gained on WF.

Seems the grass is always greener or maybe it's just nostalgia, but if this place was that much better in the past then it must have been shittin out millionaires left and right.
 
^^^^I have literally learned just about everything I know from this site and the only thing I get spammed with is dick spinning dick spins (I don't fall for them as easily now) LOL well worth it though for everything I have learned.

I haven't flipped a profit yet but I will soon every week my losses get smaller and smaller.
 
Say what you want... I found this place in July 2010 and have since started two side businesses and generating well over 15k monthly, directly from the knowledge I gained on WF.

Seems the grass is always greener or maybe it's just nostalgia, but if this place was that much better in the past then it must have been shittin out millionaires left and right.

shit gets popular and suddenly you have a bunch of guys just standing around with their balls in their hands. like black guys and golf after tiger woods. doesn't mean the next great golfer won't be one of those guys if he hustles. then you got the old white dudes gettin fat and happy and hatin' on the noobs even more because there's a threat. whoa, heavy analogy.
 
WF is cool. You also gotta understand that IM has hit the mainstream since 2006 and got a huge influx of noobs asking stupid questions, but lots of these stupid questions are coming from 13 year old kids. What do you expect? This is just a reflection of IM appeal in the past few years. I'm sure this wasn't the case in the early WF days--Very few were aware of this gold mine.

A new generation has arrived, the legends have left. Only a few masters have stayed to help the next generation--God bless 'em

I just joined a few months ago, and find some valuable info, tips, & tricks of the trade, but you gotta dig deep beyond the noise. I see many senior members helping noobs that put an honest effort into doing some of the research.

I notice, that many senior members hold their trade secrets close to the heart these days, as too many noobs expect all the work to be for them.
 
Say what you want... I found this place in July 2010 and have since started two side businesses and generating well over 15k monthly, directly from the knowledge I gained on WF.

But your join date is May 2011?


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Times have changed brah... When your LP stop converting, when your old traffic sources ban your offers, it is harder being an asshole.
 
posted by JCash:
posted by tavin:
Say what you want... I found this place in July 2010 ...

But your join date is May 2011?

Like most other forums, I was here for a while before I registered. There are some forums out there I've been reading for more than ten years and never once made a post. Just sayin'
 
I started reading everything I could get my hands on about making money online in late 2006. By early 2007 I was testing lots of affiliate campaigns and will be the first to credit Wickedfire for a lot of my affiliate success over the years.

Some of the smartest affiliates in the world were once active members here.

I've been an advertiser for the last 2 years and have not visited WF much but over the last week have been motivated to return and read for some reason... And how things have changed.

2 - 4 years ago there was a wealth of knowledge here, mostly having to do with the affiliate side.

Tons of affiliate case studies; Jon hosting contests having to do with which member can do the most monthly volume (that shit was motivating! Back then seeing affiliates doing 6 figs / month was eye opening, and keep in mind it was pre-rebills, pre-mobile); Krongel dropping tons of knowledge; Jon motivating us; Diorex, Smax, Gopher, Eli and tons of others offering genuinely helpful shit that I'm sure grew many members' businesses into the millions+ range.

Today I come back and out of the first 40 posts I see, 29 of them are offering SEO services. That's 73%! (Clearly 40 posts is not statistically significant but its indicative of what I've observed from being back over the past week.) None are about affiliate marketing. A few stupid noob questions. Idiots like AdAnglerMichael and a couple seemingly helpful case studies for SEO's.

Observation is that this place has gone from one of the best resources for affiliate marketing to a breeding ground for $3 Indian seo services, noob questions and SEO case studies.

I'm not complaining... just reporting an observation of someone who's been here from almost the start, and I rhetorically ask if this is a reflection of where the online industry is today or just a normal shift in the lifecycle of any site.
I don't see you posting any case studies or providing any 'genuinely helpful shit'.



Paid guys probably realized the correlation between helping people and bid prices going up. Either that or they got fed up because they can't make 1 word posts that contain a particular member's username anymore.
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The SEO info has hit rock bottom, frankly. When I compare the Caffeine update threads from 2008 with their insightful commentary about how important social media will become with recent Panda update banalities about how important social media will become it makes me sad all the real SEO experts fell victim to autoerotic asphyxiation accidents.
 
But your join date is May 2011?

I used to post under a different name, but that name gave away my business and sites. So I switched to a new name.

And you've never lurked on a forum? I have been checking out sports forums for years, and have never made one post.
 
I used to post under a different name, but that name gave away my business and sites. So I switched to a new name.

And you've never lurked on a forum? I have been checking out sports forums for years, and have never made one post.

collegerich.com is that you holmes?! :updown:
 
maybe people finally wised up and learned that "networking" and talking about stuff on a forum just to build some kind of reputation is retarded and works against them eventually.
 
at some point, you realize talking to others in the open is not always the best business practice

This^^^

Oh, and to OP...

You so magnanimously "come back" and deign to honor us with your presence, and all you offer is your whining little diatribe about how bad it's gotten here?

WELL, FUCK YOU. THANKS FOR YOUR (non) CONTRIBUTION. NOW FUCK OFF, YOU DRIPPING DOUCHEBAG.

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