Observation After Returning to WF

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Apr 11, 2007
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I started reading everything I could get my hands on about making money online in late 2006. By early 2007 I was testing lots of affiliate campaigns and will be the first to credit Wickedfire for a lot of my affiliate success over the years.

Some of the smartest affiliates in the world were once active members here.

I've been an advertiser for the last 2 years and have not visited WF much but over the last week have been motivated to return and read for some reason... And how things have changed.

2 - 4 years ago there was a wealth of knowledge here, mostly having to do with the affiliate side.

Tons of affiliate case studies; Jon hosting contests having to do with which member can do the most monthly volume (that shit was motivating! Back then seeing affiliates doing 6 figs / month was eye opening, and keep in mind it was pre-rebills, pre-mobile); Krongel dropping tons of knowledge; Jon motivating us; Diorex, Smax, Gopher, Eli and tons of others offering genuinely helpful shit that I'm sure grew many members' businesses into the millions+ range.

Today I come back and out of the first 40 posts I see, 29 of them are offering SEO services. That's 73%! (Clearly 40 posts is not statistically significant but its indicative of what I've observed from being back over the past week.) None are about affiliate marketing. A few stupid noob questions. Idiots like AdAnglerMichael and a couple seemingly helpful case studies for SEO's.

Observation is that this place has gone from one of the best resources for affiliate marketing to a breeding ground for $3 Indian seo services, noob questions and SEO case studies.

I'm not complaining... just reporting an observation of someone who's been here from almost the start, and I rhetorically ask if this is a reflection of where the online industry is today or just a normal shift in the lifecycle of any site.
 
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Such a forum does exist here. Someplace warm. A place where the beer flows like wine. Where beautiful women instinctively flock like the salmon of Capistrano. I'm talkin' bout a little place called :: private ::
 
PPC campaigns are temp by Nature.

SEO is forever. (Sorry debeers)

I for one am very happy at what WF has become; a Link-finding and advice-trading paradise, filled with fellow successful home biz owners. (And not matt cutts brownnosers, like every other seo forum online!)
 
dreamache said:
Such a forum does exist here. Someplace warm. A place where the beer flows like wine. Where beautiful women instinctively flock like the salmon of Capistrano. I'm talkin' bout a little place called :: private ::
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I would love to find this place you speak of. What are the rigorous entry requirements to this "private" club?
 
Paid guys probably realized the correlation between helping people and bid prices going up. Either that or they got fed up because they can't make 1 word posts that contain a particular member's username anymore.
 
^ Thats most of it

You can't mention anything here without hundreds of noobs flooding in and jacking up the bid prices or the warriorforum rejects taking that info and selling it for $7. Not to mention that affiliate marketing isn't rocket science, You target, track, tweak, and repeat. Anyone doing this for more than 3 months quickly realizes that short of network reviews and new tools/apps there isn't much to do on wickedfire except dickrolling noobs and do a little networking so you can bounce ideas over aim instead of in public.
 
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i agree that the amount of seo threads here are a joke. link vines link wheels, plr content, etc etc etc ETC. Fuck all this shit it's so fucking lame.
 
Most of the groups went underground. Public forums just don't work for sharing legitimate information. We learned that with facebook coming and saying hello.

But you're right. Shit here used to be legit. RIP
 
At OP:

I remember those times. Think about it like this:

You show up to a party, and all your friends are there. You know 'em. They know you. And everyone trusts each other. But someone leaves the door open.

Within an hour, the place floods with a bunch of folks you don't know. Worse, most of 'em are obnoxious, and suck the life out of the party. Soon, you're not having a good time anymore.

Same thing at WF. The door's wide open. As a result, there are a lot of obnoxious folks sucking the life out of the party. And that includes newbies who don't know the culture. They go into Traffic and start threads like, "How do I get traffic? Help!"

For folks to share, the environment has to be small. And it should probably be run like the mob. Private. Nobody gets in unless they're invited and vouched for. If someone messes up (for an example, writes an ebook sharing the secrets), it's on the head of the guy that invited him.

I used to spend a lot of time in the other sub-forums. There was a lot of juicy stuff. These days, I go in, scan for the members who know stuff, and I'm out.
 
Yeah I guess its been a week or two now since the last time some dickface came back and posted their observation.

Send me your mothers' numbers OP & rockstar, I'd like to post about my observation of her phone sexing abilities.

Oh you don't think that's relevant? Good, now you know how much we give a fuck about you and your observations.
 
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What else is there to drop. We know what needs to be done.
Its not as wild west as it used to be in the industry. Thats why most big boys of the past are selling private forums, some banner scraping software, have a network, become gurus, or are dealing with the FTC. And if you can find a way to get around the restrictive bull shit, why spoil it.
What do you expect from this place. Personally I find golden nuggets here all the time. paid and seo is the way to go.
 
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