Who Else is Getting REAL Tired of the US Gov't?
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Ubercamp? Digging up shit that happened a long time ago? It also probably made more money than you did last year, so...
Fail?
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The whole healthcare thing is starting to scare me, especially after what Governor Quitter (oh, sorry, Palin) recently said (on Facebook...): Obama's health care plan is evil: Palin - Yahoo!7 News
I love nutjob conspiracy theories.
AMT was my nightmare last year. Those of you saying that paying 50% in taxes means you have a bad accountant obviously haven't been deep into the top tax bracket before... and that's only FEDERAL. I still had to pay roughly 8% state. AMT will MASSACRE your deductions. I got so fucked last year. Here are the deductions I lost due to AMT just off the top of my head.
Child deduction
Home loan interest (almost $20k)
Personal Property tax
Medical expenses
Cannot take itemized deductions for state
Federal itemized deductions CRIPPLED (lost a HUGE %... est 70% lost)
When all was said and done, I ended up paying roughly 40% tax to the fed and state.
Then theres sales tax...property tax... licence/title fees... 50% is reality.
Child deduction
Home loan interest (almost $20k)
Personal Property tax
Medical expenses
Cannot take itemized deductions for state
Federal itemized deductions CRIPPLED (lost a HUGE %... est 70% lost)
When all was said and done, I ended up paying roughly 40% tax to the fed and state.
Then theres sales tax...property tax... licence/title fees... 50% is reality.
I have one question for you. Why are medical costs today so high in proportion to the average income? Could it possibly be due to inflation? Could it possibly be due to the multitude of government intervention in this country - artifically engineering prices? Could high insurance costs possibly be due to the government granting large insurance and pharma legal monopolies on drug production and on health care? Maybe if you read any bit of your adversary's arguments you'd realize that his solutions are much more sensible than your idea of allowing the government complete control over what companies we are to deal with. This philosophy that you hold that everyone is entitled to healthcare is clearly bogus. In an advanced civilization, the standard of living is high and costs go down, not inflate. National healthcare is a license to inflate the money supply at whim, and a license to arbitrarily dictate prices in every health care industry. What becomes an objective measure of prices if not the free market? What then becomes an objective measure of the importance of covering the cost of one disease over another? It's completely antithetical to try and lower prices by taking more money from the producers of a country- and spending it covering everyone and their mother at the expense of a 50%+ tax rate. You want to know why health care costs are unproportionately high? In part it is because the government has strangled our producers to the point of making nothing profitable but the health care industry, for the biggest players. If you read some Ayn Rand, you'll see how your emotional argument for collectivism is one that is self destructing. You're not looking at any consequences of your statements, and you certaintly are not arguing with logic.
And to the rest of you wickedfire guys that post meaningless sentences as if you are totally unaffected by the issue or think you are powerless in the face of thousands of power hungry dwarves - guys your dad's age that aspire not to steal for a living, I suggest you attack any form of further government intervention with your life, because that's what is on the line. The government has already found out that tax receipts decline at higher tax rates - their own receipts tell them that- it is their philosophy of obtaining the most centralized power possible by destroying the producers and making alms with the non producers that they live by. They live by the power to print as much money as wanted - and counterfeit the producers of society. Your jugular is an object of their dictatorship - they understand it, and it's time you do too.
I now think you're an idiot. It's pretty bad when Obama the super-intelligent savior of the universe has a 6 month approval rating lower than what Bush had after bumbling through his first 6 months.
Instead of arguing non-stop. You should see that there is a large polarization between groups on healthcare. Which means go create quizzes about Obama's death panel and what Sarah Palin said about her kid intertwined with zip and CPA offers. Cha fucking ching.
You're an idiot! Just look at the poll numbers and you will see that the majority of Americans think that he is doing an HORRIBLE JOB Obamas Approval Rating At Rock Bottom - Americans Lose Confidence The numbers don't lie!
The Stimulus and Cash 4 Clunkers are really bad, and stupid Idea's. We're all paying 4 these. Vote out all the Liberal Fuckers that voted for these ideas. We need to retake our Government. Socialism never works.
So , now that everyone has complained, what are you going to do about it? Move out of the country? Decide on not paying your taxes?
maybe. i'd rather pay 40-50% taxes in a country that's moving forward instead of backward and have those taxes benefit me in some way other than paying for bums, bullets and reduction of my rights/privacy.
Keeping him in the Senate is fine but he doesn't have the wide appeal to make a serious go at 2012. Don't waste your time and vote in '12 for Paul. Voting for him in a presidential election is just taking votes away from the challenger of the marxist, racist Obama.
