It's nice to see that HK is cheaper than Singapore. Honestly what really jacks up the cost of living in HK is the insane property market. HK has a lot of "hot money" (read:dirty money) flowing into its property market from China and it's forming a property bubble. I'm confident that this bubble is going to pop within 5 years because it's simply not sustainable.
Aside from property, other stuff isn't THAT expensive. Although the property market does affect the costs of other goods and services in the city, there is also no sales tax and income taxes cap out at 16% here for income derived from HK. Income that is derived offshore is taxed at 0%. There's also no capital gains or estate tax here.
Stuff like eating out is pretty comparable to any major western city, and HK has some amazingly good cheap eats as well as fine dining too. Computer equipment is really cheap in HK and pretty comparable to western prices. Groceries are going to cost you 50% more than in the west partly due to the fact that there's a cartel that fixes the prices. If you're a cheap skate, you can get around the grocery cartel by shopping at prizemart and your local wet market.
Rent is insane though. A friend of mine was paying 16k HKD a month for a 700 square foot flat. That's over 2 grand US a month. I bought property when the market was cheap though, so I am not affected by this and it's only a matter of time before the bubble pops anyway so don't fret.
I've been living in HK for nearly 8 years now.
Anyone living in HK care to comment on the pollution? I've read it's really quite bad there. I spent 2 weeks in Beijing and came back to the states feeling horrible. Sneezing black gunk while I was there too.
Also, anyone been to Seoul? I've been wanting to try it for a while.
HK is concrete city dont expect much.
What about Cancun Mexico. Do you like to be at the beach? Beautiful place and great weather.
WTF this thread again? Whats with you guys and Thailand? I understand this is a gay webmaster forum and thus the attraction to lady boys.. but why don't you consider somewhere like Costa Rica, or countries in South America?
WTF this thread again? Whats with you guys and Thailand? I understand this is a gay webmaster forum and thus the attraction to lady boys.. but why don't you consider somewhere like Costa Rica, or countries in South America?
Anyone living in HK care to comment on the pollution? I've read it's really quite bad there. I spent 2 weeks in Beijing and came back to the states feeling horrible. Sneezing black gunk while I was there too.
Also, anyone been to Seoul? I've been wanting to try it for a while.
berlin? who the heck wants to live in the cold?
if you dont want to live in the US then Australia or New Zealand. No can defend.
who can live in a third world country for more than a month? even if you're "rich" in their currency/lifestyle you're still poor. Id rather be poor in a 1st world country than rich in a 3rd world or even a 2nd world country.
let's look at what makes up quality of life:
We cant live without air for a few minutes... so air quality is very important. third world country like thailand is like living in your friends ass while he's farting all the time.
next it's water. we cant live long without water so water quality is important. it's not just drinking it. you're food crops that you eat and when you take a shower you absorb more water through the skin than by drinking.
next it's food. again food quality. just take a look at the poor people who live in these countries. that's how you're gonna look like.
finally there's relationships. you gotta be in a place where you can cultivate great relationships. but if people are dirnking crap water, breathing crap air, eating crap food it's hard to do that.
only certain parts of western europe, america, australia or new zealand fit the bill. IMO
I'm considering Railay/Tonsai/Ao Nang area of Thailand next. Going to test it out soon. For the guys living in Thailand, whats the visa situation? Do you really have to leave the country once a month? If so that sounds like a real pain. I don't have to leave the Philippines for 18 months, just a visit to the visa extension office every 2 months.
who can live in a third world country for more than a month? even if you're "rich" in their currency/lifestyle you're still poor. Id rather be poor in a 1st world country than rich in a 3rd world or even a 2nd world country.
The pollution is a problem but not nearly as bad as in mainland china.
Also LOL at the "concrete city" comment. ~70% of HKs territory is completely undeveloped. There's plenty of nature, hundreds of hiking trails, beaches, remote islands, etc. All within immediate reach of urbanized centers. Get out of your pathetic little expat bubble in Central/Mid-Levels and there's plenty of stuff to see and discover.
Anyone living in HK care to comment on the pollution? I've read it's really quite bad there. I spent 2 weeks in Beijing and came back to the states feeling horrible. Sneezing black gunk while I was there too.
Also, anyone been to Seoul? I've been wanting to try it for a while.
berlin? who the heck wants to live in the cold?
if you dont want to live in the US then Australia or New Zealand. No can defend.
who can live in a third world country for more than a month? even if you're "rich" in their currency/lifestyle you're still poor. Id rather be poor in a 1st world country than rich in a 3rd world or even a 2nd world country.
let's look at what makes up quality of life:
We cant live without air for a few minutes... so air quality is very important. third world country like thailand is like living in your friends ass while he's farting all the time.
next it's water. we cant live long without water so water quality is important. it's not just drinking it. you're food crops that you eat and when you take a shower you absorb more water through the skin than by drinking.
next it's food. again food quality. just take a look at the poor people who live in these countries. that's how you're gonna look like.
finally there's relationships. you gotta be in a place where you can cultivate great relationships. but if people are dirnking crap water, breathing crap air, eating crap food it's hard to do that.
only certain parts of western europe, america, australia or new zealand fit the bill. IMO