what gives? how do make real money

Not sure if you're referring to me but I'm far from a "kid".

Any dipshit that can type can easily see that on average it costs anywhere from $5k to $15k per year to raise a kid. Anyone who refers to themselves as the "SEO King" should be able to easily turn that $5-$15k investment into decent profits which can then be reinvested again and again.

And you might do well to listen to some of the "kids" on here when they do give out life advice. Ryan Eagle is destroying it for someone his age, and he built his shit from the ground up. If you're doing better than that "kid" or numerous other ones that frequent WF I'd be surprised.
I'm referring YOU talking about having kids. I can't imagine any self-respecting adult saying that... Then again, I can't imagine a lot of things.

I don't plan on having a kid for a few years, so I agree personally... but, would I be tactless enough to publicly state that kids are an inconvenience? No, because I know it'll make me sound like a sociopath.
 


lol i don't know why you personally aren't making money but to bash a niche like gaming is lol, I guarantee there are at least 10 people on this board doing 4-5 figures daily with game.

What do you mean by completely shut down? Did your ad CTR drop(did you create new ones), did the campaign stop converting(did you try really dialing in the demo/day-parting/testing across multiple networks), did the advertiser shut down(find a similar offer with similar conversions) or is there another reason?

ran retrogamer i believe it was before last summer...spring time ...dealt with a few diff networks...i do think am's don't give a shit. i think some do but at the end of the day, they don't care.

ran into a problem with the offer to which it's extent i won't go into...i did have to troubleshoot it myself to figure out it was redirecting to a non offer page without us knowing. figured out it wasn't compatible with certain computers/browsers. i do believe for about the 3 week period when the offer made noise, everyone jumped on it...thus causing the cap...just on and on and on....i was working with someone else with these offers...he decided to jump ship and go into something else which i agreed but disagreed...one guy would say, stick it out, he would say, let's bail ship etc...just a bunch of bullshit all around.

when smiley's came around and every fucking am was out there pushing msn messenger with smiley offers....we were the only ones to put out skype with smiley offers...made decent coin but again, short lived.

i've learned over the years...i have to work for that income...it's why so many amercians do. it's those that have the knowledge, resources and are in that right situation that can make something of this. not everyone can make money doing this.

you can be 16 and banking if you knew what offer to run, where to run and have a proper lander, when to turn it on and off etc ...

to say if you work hard and no luck is involved is just fooling yourself. like in golf...you put the practice time in, you live it, breathe it, eat golf and when your out there playing.....60% skill, 40% luck. it's how the wind blows or how the ball rolls.
 
Example, I've only got 2 employees but both are harder working and better at what they are doing then I am. They could both be on their own making 10x more then what I'm paying them but they aren't. They are not entrepreneurs... plain and simple. They don't see things the same way I do. You need to think of yourself as the quarter back of a football team. Or maybe even the coach. Your job is to map out/visualize something and coordinate it...a.k.a make it happen.

THIS is the crux of the matter. Coach? You need to be the man who owns the fucking stadium.

Only deal in ideas/concepts/business models/live examples. Then set your workforce to creating, testing and delivering the finished project.
 
You're a negative person and judging by yourself, probably a dumbass.

This is where you're going wrong.

a negative person because i'm not an am no mo? because i'm voicing my opinions?

and you're from great britian? fuck off
 
i love how you bitches make it sound like you're fucking wealthy. lol

LOL as if you've made it.

i do know the majority in here...when i say majority...99% of the geeks in here don't make shit.

i know 2 peeps in here that bank. everyone else can go eat shit when it comes to making 6 figures

typical wf tuff guy. millions/thousands...if you believe someone's banking thousands off gaming offers then you're quite the idiot yourself.

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Pay attention to your critics OP, they see things you don't wan't to see.

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I've been lurking here a few weeks and this is my first time posting. I have to agree with the people telling you to be more positive and recognize tough love. Your replies to people who gave you a jagged pill to swallow weren't productive. They were accusatory.

Why did you even bring others' income in to your own thread in the first place? No one's ramming their income claims down your throat. You started this thread asking for advice, so why insult people who give it to you, even if it's not what you want to hear? Why call people liars about their own successes, because you're frustrated with your own? You say 99% of people here don't make shit. Even if that's true, which it's not, there are hundreds of people on this board, which still leaves dozens and dozens of self-made, wealthy affiliate marketers willing to drop truth and help you learn.

I only posted this because it's frustrating for me as a newbie seeing you ask for advice and then responding negatively when the responses aren't all warm and fuzzy. I've been learning AM for months, testing, building, and am only now at a place where I feel like I know enough to ask intelligent questions in a forum like this. So when I ask for advice, I'll take whatever I get and make sense of it on my own terms. And in a place like this, I'd get worried if a few people didn't haggle me. As someone already said, responses were relatively nice to this thread considering the crowd.

Stay positive man. To your success.

- a middle school teacher who knows a bad attitude when he sees one
 
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was doing fine until german spoke.

lots of good peeps and advise in here...some, you're typical wf response
 
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thanks!

here is a free campaign... buy pops and sell reg cleaners on the pops

sorry if im outting anyone