what gives? how do make real money

Berto said:
Looks like me and Scherer are on the same page too.

I wanted to point this out because I'm learning that Amazon is not a horrible way to go. I recently started sending one site's traffic there (there's a good deal of qualified traffic), and yeah, the cookie sucks and the commissions are less, but with free super saver shipping, it converts like a mofo.

In the end, the higher conversion rate makes more money, and it's a better deal for my users.

You should just see the shit people buy on Amazon after you send enough traffic there. I'm selling anything from the new Eminem album to $250 watches. It's one of my favorite things to do every morning - What kind of ridiculousness did I sell on Amazon?

Go find a new XYZ that's gonna be hot and sell the piss out of it.
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Amazon has been really good to me. There are some crazy stupid niches that I've been killing it in - one of which has been converting at 11% and is currently paying my mortgage. All SEO income that I set up a year and a half ago.

eBay was fantastic in 2009, went downhill in early 2010. I'm still making enough through their program that I wouldn't have to work my day job if I didn't want to. It's all set up so I pay my contractors once a month, pay bills once a month and the rest of the month I just fuck around and do what I want.

Adsense payments pay my gas each month.

I've yet to make any CPA offer really work well.
 


Just had to +rep Hack for that redhead! Blimey.

To the OP: I have no experience in PPC, but with SEO it is a fair assumption that you're probably not seeing the right results you want due down to you not picking the right niches. I always went with the monsters (MMO, Payday Loans etc) and soon realised that I wasn't going to see big results for a considerable amount of time. More recently I've been hitting niches that aren't being hammered and the right results have been coming within a just a month or so. Just have a look around Amazon for ideas, do your keyword research and study whether that first page is a battle you believe you can win without too much effort. Don't really want to start name dropping specific niches, but if you spent a full night looking for ideas you'll be surprised at what you may just find.
 
Incantation said:
Just had to +rep Hack for that redhead! Blimey.

To the OP: I have no experience in PPC, but with SEO it is a fair assumption that you're probably not seeing the right results you want due down to you not picking the right niches. I always went with the monsters (MMO, Payday Loans etc) and soon realised that I wasn't going to see big results for a considerable amount of time. More recently I've been hitting niches that aren't being hammered and the right results have been coming within a just a month or so. Just have a look around Amazon for ideas, do your keyword research and study whether that first page is a battle you believe you can win without too much effort. Don't really want to start name dropping specific niches, but if you spent a full night looking for ideas you'll be surprised at what you may just find.
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yup berdo and jdohama spoke of it...gonna look into that ...thanks.
 
why isn't this guy banned yet? You come on here to bitch and moan and when people start speaking the truth you get butt hurt and insult people like a big baby you are. I don't know why anyone here is trying to help you. Your pathetic and its saddening to know that you that you have child.
 
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Kinda brutal but true.

It's all rainbow and lollipops when people massage your ego and tell you to tough it out and hang in there but when you get some tough love you feel like you have to go on the defensive and ridicule people like a jackass.

I don't know McGrunins, but if you've ever read any of his useful posts you'd know this guy knows his shit.

Don't get mad at other people just because you cant put the HURRRR with DURRRR.

Now here's the lightbulb: The reason you've been at this for long and you suck at it is probably cause you're terrible at marketing.

PS

Get fucked.
 
Seriously I don't understand why people are providing this dip-shit with useful advice.

#1 He said he is done in the industry that his heart just isn't in it.

#2 He acts like just because he works hard (porn all day btw is not working hard), that he should be a millionaire as should every other hardworking American.

Let me tell you this 'bro, if everyone who worked hard was making bank money wouldn't be worth shit and you would have to make 100x's what you are making right now. Not everyone is gonna be rich just because you play on the interwebs.
 
cv735 said:
all from your $3 gaming offers?

stfu
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Bad mentality.

Stop looking at what others do from simple forum postings. If someone is getting an extra $100/year from a forum sig, doesn't mean they aren't making $1,000/day from their IM work. Rich people get money from everything, and lose money on nothing. Most rich people I know are less generous then average earning people because they value money more.

You have no idea how much everyone here makes without looking at their bank accounts. Some people here make $100/month, others $10,000/month, others $100,000/month


My advice:

Get a job as an SEO/Affiliate Manager. Learn what works while you get paid. Then take that knowledge and apply it to your own shit.

You are obviously not good at finding the road yourself. So get someone to show you; while you get paid.

Ya gotta accept your limitations/strengths. Don't try to be someone you aren't. Just be the most you can be, within your limitations. You can't be what you want, since you may not have it in you, but you can be the most you can be based on your limitations... which you aren't.


If after all the advice you have gotten you can't come back here and post you made it in 36 months, fucking quit the industry. Also have realistic expectations with different levels. First look to make $100/day. Then $100k/year. And so forth. All long journeys start with a small step.
 
I'm not going to lie, after reading this entire thread I'm really pissed off. Cv let me start off by saying that I would give anything to run you over with my shitty hyundai accent. At the same time, I would like to shake your hand and thank you. It's negative, immature, and ignorant people like you that make it easier for people like me to succeed. Let me tell you this. I am 20 years old, I have a demanding girlfriend, I work, and I go to school full time and I still find time to plug away at AM non stop. I'm not balling yet, but guess what? There is no doubt in my mind that I will be very soon. How can I be so sure about this? Am I a fucking fortune teller? No. The reason I know this is because I possess all of the characteristics that you don't. I never give up, I am constantly testing, optimizing, focusing, networking with others that are already where I hope to be some day, etc.

The fact that anyone on this forum even responded to you after your first couple of replies makes me sick. You don't even deserve to be dickrolled. I'm now going to offer you some advice thats going to change your fucking life. YOU DON'T HAVE WHAT IT TAKES. Stop day dreaming about that nice house, car, or boat that you want. Keep your day job, and just accept the fact that you will die just another average human being. I'm not trying to be mean, I'm being 100% straight up. Your attitude and personality are proof enough that you are definitely your worst enemy and that you will simply never make it.
 
+rep to everyone in this thread, minus mgrunin because everyone knows he doesn't make money and everyone knows he is just roishare
 
defelice said:
are you fucking serious? im 17 and martins 19. we make more money off of these gaming/download offers in a day than you do in a month. no exaggeration, no excuses, 100% determination and focus. stop being a little bitch and being so bitter. people who are smart and focus on what they are good at fucking kill it, including me and martin. find what you are good at and focus on that, stop trying to do everything at once
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+rep

great post:playboy_sml:
 
erifdekciw said:
why isn't this guy banned yet? You come on here to bitch and moan and when people start speaking the truth you get butt hurt and insult people like a big baby you are. I don't know why anyone here is trying to help you. Your pathetic and its saddening to know that you that you have child.
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banned? bitch and moan when people start speaking the truth?

you might want to re-read the posts over. i get shitted on for having a say and you expect me to fucking listen to his 'truths'? go fuck yourself
 
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