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Ok, after reading the whole thing I've seen one issue either mis-addressed or not clearly addressed.

Here it is and then you all can correct me:

Using google's keyword generator (Adwords) doesn't tell you how much google Adsense will pay you for the ad. It tells you how much other people are paying per click for those keywords. Adsense pays you a small, idk maybe 10% or less of that amount. Keep this in mind.

Also, when you're talking about using keywords to generate high-paying ads, what that means is not the keywords you are paying for but keywords within the site text and metatags that generate the Adsense ads that pay you.

No search terms are responsible for that.

Now feel free to correct me.

And apologies for my earlier grammar-nazi-ness.
 


it's working fine for me.

I didn't ask about that, I asked for either correction or clarification on what I was saying.
 
kclick78 said:
Ok, after reading the whole thing I've seen one issue either mis-addressed or not clearly addressed.

Here it is and then you all can correct me:

Using google's keyword generator (Adwords) doesn't tell you how much google Adsense will pay you for the ad. It tells you how much other people are paying per click for those keywords. Adsense pays you a small, idk maybe 10% or less of that amount. Keep this in mind.

Also, when you're talking about using keywords to generate high-paying ads, what that means is not the keywords you are paying for but keywords within the site text and metatags that generate the Adsense ads that pay you.

No search terms are responsible for that.

And listen to Lerchmo

Now feel free to correct me.

And apologies for my earlier grammar-nazi-ness.
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I don't mean to be a dick, but are you asking a question? I'm confused. You are correct on both accounts, the adwords tool is just a guide to get a rough idea on if it is a high paying niche or not. And yes, your site should have the "high paying" keywords on it and then you target any cheaper keywords that you are paying for to drive cheap traffic to your site.

Is that what you were looking for?
 
Jdog said:
I don't mean to be a dick, but are you asking a question? I'm confused. You are correct on both accounts, the adwords tool is just a guide to get a rough idea on if it is a high paying niche or not. And yes, your site should have the "high paying" keywords on it and then you target any cheaper keywords that you are paying for to drive cheap traffic to your site.

Is that what you were looking for?
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yeah, well it seems like it hasn't ever been said like that there are a lot of posts talking about "why do google ads say $50 and pay like $1", no one ever answered very clearly. I just wanted to make sure I understood what was going on.

I guess what the question was was: "here's how I understand it, am I wrong..."

andyem said:
Nice payout on the top box.
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yesterday was one site, today was 7 sites, the one yesterday is obviously the better paying one, but today it didn't pay as well.
 
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kclick78 said:
yeah, well it seems like it hasn't ever been said like that there are a lot of posts talking about "why do google ads say $50 and pay like $1", no one ever answered very clearly. I just wanted to make sure I understood what was going on.

I guess what the question was was: "here's how I understand it, am I wrong..."


yesterday was one site, today was 7 sites, the one yesterday is obviously the better paying one, but today it didn't pay as well.
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1) depends where geographically the click is coming from. If the high paying bidders geotarget only to the U.S and the click is elsewhere your click is usually low.

2) Too many ads on your page. The ad which is highest in your code will have your highest paying clicks in it.

3) Your adsense isnt targetting the right keywords and may be posting the wrong ads. Ive noticed sometimes one stupid word in a 350word page caused the wrong ad to come out.

There are more reasons on top of those also.
If you want to see the difference is payouts in different countries change the language and country at the top of the keyword tool. Watch how much it drops.

Lawyer in slovakia pays $10.78 In the states it pays $13.52.

Foe me today I got clicks from the following countries:
Austria
Brazil
Canada
Denmark
Ireland
Italy
Spain
United Kingdom of Great Britain
United States of America

The U.S and UK were high paying but the rest were thos lovely 5-15 cent clicks. Who knows what types of ads are showing up when that user goes to my site and obviously the ones that do are F**in crap. lol. Oh well the bonus I guess is they at least paid for the click they cost me in 7search.
 
This is a great thread but was shopping word ads vs buy word ads ever tested to see if they both worked well for arbi?
 
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This is a great thread but was shopping word ads vs buy word ads ever tested to see if they both worked well for arbi?
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I dont think it would matter as long as the ad contains what they are looking for. Remember you only care if they click your ads, your not selling them anything like aff marketing. Your just after clicks thats it. Just do your best to make your ads reflect what they are looking for :)
 
well I just finished reading the whole thread. but this looks like a CPA Arbitrage more than PPC arbitrage which has a lower profit.

chrislingle did you keep a smtg klike a excel file for your spendings and earnings per day?
 
great thread right here...inspired me to do the same...launched my arbi page a few days ago.

Got $1.25 the first day and then $0.73 the second...but i'm still running at a loss because Adbrite traffic is crap. seriously.

thanks for the informative posts. I'm still working out some PPC traffic issues. Will post updates soon! your results are great i hope to be somewhere there soon
 
Is the YACG cloaking good enough to keep adsense payouts high?

It kept up for a week(with cloaking, without it goes down after 2-3days) where clicks were between $1-1.20 then today it dipped down to 10-15cents. The only way I have been able to get them back up is changing the page name. Then the process starts all over again. Should I be looking into better ways to cloak?

Merry Xmas
 
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Wow I just spent the past 6 hours reading this whole thread. Some really really good stuff here.

I don't think I want to mess with ppc arbitrage, and would rather dip my feet in Affiliate Marketing. I'm going to read Jon's articles on his blog and a few more threads on this forum and see what im going to do .
 
thanks for the posts in this thread.... I started my own arbi pages a few days ago..my first try yielded me some "huge" losses...

but i didn't give up and just worked on getting myself a new page and i think it's going to average $5 on $2-$3 adspend...it's not much but at least i'm profiting

thanks guys
 
Thanks for this thread, much valuable information in here. I've recently started playing with arbitrage, again, this time going for the most useless page possible, before that I would at least try and present some value to the reader, needless to say it didn't work out in the earnings area.

Any pointers to my current site? While I realize it's probably still a little too early to jump to any conclusion, 0 adsense clicks with upwards of 30 visitors is pretty telling: http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/2465/sitemy3.jpg
Or would you say my site is "alright" and I should focus more on my keywords?

Thanks guys!
 
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The page is horrible. Blend the ads with the site. Search for Mortgage on 7search. View Cost Per Click. Look in the 1-15 cent range. Those are arby layouts that wickedfire users have. What you have is a bad example. 30 visits and no clicks? You should have 30 visits and 14 clicks.
 
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