US Govt. Shutdown. Does anyone care?

When the balance of world power is like what is shown below, the one who has the power can always change the rules of the game to his advantage:

Very much this. Expect a new "War On (insert bad thing here)" to start after the new year. Nothing boosts national moral or makes money like starting a War.
 


As much as I agree with you, and with respect for you, you don't understand what "debt" means as it relates to the federal government.

I understand what it means. It will end with either high inflation or higher taxes. I don't think it will be possible to raise taxes high enough without totally killing productivity, so I'm guessing the default will be via high inflation.

Debt is only part of the problem. There's trillions in unfunded liabilities.
 
^^ good article. Several states are also in a big mess with unfunded liabilities. California is one of them. Even Los Angeles is in a big hole. I think LA will be bankrupt within 5 years.

This is why I keep most of my money in gold/silver.
 
They barely manage to cover the interest on the debt. And let's not forget that they are basically just a sanctioned counterfeiting operation.

Also, what about the unfunded liabilities of the US somewhere in the ballpark of $123 Trillion?

If they're not controlled by the puppet masters, then they should abolish the federal reserve bank immediately. Because they're not federal, but privately owned. How can a country give control of it's money supply to private bankers who then turn around and lend it back to the govt.

The govt debt is just a way for the bankers to keep control. I doubt any member of congress have the guts to say abolish the federal reserve bank. Until we take back control of our money supply, the debt will keep increasing regardless of how much you cut. The debt problem is in the financial structure, not the debt itself.
 
The govt debt is just a way for the bankers to keep control. I doubt any member of congress have the guts to say abolish the federal reserve bank. Until we take back control of our money supply, the debt will keep increasing regardless of how much you cut. The debt problem is in the financial structure, not the debt itself.

that "like" of mine was an accident, i meant to hit "reply"... which is to say i don't like your post.

there are 4 sentences quoted above, and none make any sense. "The govt debt is just a way for the bankers to keep control." explain in detail how bankers are using government debt to keep control. that sounds like some vague inane horseshit you might overhear at an OWS rally between bonghits.

i'd go on, but really? either bring an argument or don't.
 
By that same logic shouldn't Obama be kicked out of the White House until the shutdown is over since it is on federal land?

Yes, the same should apply. I doubt it would ever happen though.

The U.S. Naturalization tests asks "What is Rule of Law?". The correct answer examples basically say that the same rules apply to everyone and nobody is above the law including government agents and officials. That seems to be BS in reality.
 
The U.S. Naturalization tests asks "What is Rule of Law?". The correct answer examples basically say that the same rules apply to everyone and nobody is above the law including government agents and officials.

Incorrect. There is one man who is above the law...

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It looks like more people are ignoring the "closed" signs around the DC parks and monuments.....

Insane Tourists Blatantly Defying The U.S. Government's Demands


I suspect many of them will continue to vote, and teach their kids to do the same.
 
that "like" of mine was an accident, i meant to hit "reply"... which is to say i don't like your post.

there are 4 sentences quoted above, and none make any sense. "The govt debt is just a way for the bankers to keep control." explain in detail how bankers are using government debt to keep control. that sounds like some vague inane horseshit you might overhear at an OWS rally between bonghits.

i'd go on, but really? either bring an argument or don't.

Please take your "like" back. You want me to be your education source. It's not going to be that easy, as you'll need to Google the facts of the case.

1 - Find out who controls the Federal reserve bank

2 - Find out the members of the federal reserve bank and look closely to how it's structured.

3 - Find out about how banks truly operate. they take in one million deposit and they can lend at least ten million from that one million. Find out how they do that.

That's the problem with some nowadays, they fail to read or do proper research and thus are easily spoon fed the propaganda dished out by the controlled media sources.

It's a fact that the bankers control the politicians. If you care to learn, then find out more about those "issues" I mentioned above.
 
Please take your "like" back. You want me to be your education source. It's not going to be that easy, as you'll need to Google the facts of the case.

1 - Find out who controls the Federal reserve bank

2 - Find out the members of the federal reserve bank and look closely to how it's structured.

3 - Find out about how banks truly operate. they take in one million deposit and they can lend at least ten million from that one million. Find out how they do that.

That's the problem with some nowadays, they fail to read or do proper research and thus are easily spoon fed the propaganda dished out by the controlled media sources.

It's a fact that the bankers control the politicians. If you care to learn, then find out more about those "issues" I mentioned above.

your "secret" is well known. its not some secret, its a business plan. banks borrow at rate X and lend at rate Y. that's how they "truly operate". god forbid, banks are businesses, not institutions to serve the brokeass.
 
Please take your "like" back. You want me to be your education source. It's not going to be that easy, as you'll need to Google the facts of the case.

1 - Find out who controls the Federal reserve bank

2 - Find out the members of the federal reserve bank and look closely to how it's structured.

3 - Find out about how banks truly operate. they take in one million deposit and they can lend at least ten million from that one million. Find out how they do that.

That's the problem with some nowadays, they fail to read or do proper research and thus are easily spoon fed the propaganda dished out by the controlled media sources.

It's a fact that the bankers control the politicians. If you care to learn, then find out more about those "issues" I mentioned above.


you talk alot about us failing to do the reseach but i suspect that's because we will fail to look past what you do. present your research to this neutral panel and let us judge on the merits of what you so desperately believe, otherwise shut the fuck up.
 
they're just going to raise the debt ceiling within a couple weeks and keep printing till they can't, right? we still have a couple of good years left lol
 
they're just going to raise the debt ceiling within a couple weeks and keep printing till they can't, right? we still have a couple of good years left lol

all bullshit aside, that's the nuts of it, yes.
 
you talk alot about us failing to do the reseach but i suspect that's because we will fail to look past what you do. present your research to this neutral panel and let us judge on the merits of what you so desperately believe, otherwise shut the fuck up.

This is not a forum to educate you on the economics of banking. Your answer shows you have no clue about how banking works. While you can bullshit your way with others, that nonsense talk will not work here. I gave you simple research to do, and you come back with the rehearsed nonsense that's disseminated by the paid media sources.

If you notice I have tried not to call you ignorant of the facts, but your foul language confirms you have no knowledge of the issue at hand. It's okay, but don't try to curse your way through the issue because of lack of proper knowledge.

I was directing my research question directly to you, and not anyone else, because you butted into the issues with half baked ideas. Do the research, and see what you find out.