ALL U MORONS THAT DONT WANT KIDS, WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IF YOUR PARENTS DIDNT HAVE YOU!
..YOU OWE IT TO AN OFFSPRING TO GIVE THE GIFT THAT YOU UNSELFISHLY RECIEVED.
Time.com: "Having Kids Is Foolish!"
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ALL U MORONS THAT DONT WANT KIDS, WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IF YOUR PARENTS DIDNT HAVE YOU!
..YOU OWE IT TO AN OFFSPRING TO GIVE THE GIFT THAT YOU UNSELFISHLY RECIEVED.
Wonder how he explains the fact the most parents would not trade their kid for anything in the world.
Honestly, anything besides having 1 BOY sounds horrible. Honestly, I just do not want a girl.
I know this is an extremely harsh way to look at it but:
Either she will be pretty and a miserable dumb whore, or fat and a miserable dumb bitch. Even the intelligent women with degrees are still "girl dumb".
I think it was Tosh who said something along the lines of "O, and any girls under the age of 18 - nothing you care about really matters at all"
^Its so true honestly. Fuck I'm glad I have a dick.
I'll be sure and show this to my daughter one day lol
I know this is an extremely harsh way to look at it but:
Either she will be pretty and a miserable dumb whore, or fat and a miserable dumb bitch. Even the intelligent women with degrees are still "girl dumb".
I think it was Tosh who said something along the lines of "O, and any girls under the age of 18 - nothing you care about really matters at all"
^Its so true honestly. Fuck I'm glad I have a dick.
I'll be sure and show this to my daughter one day lol
Now that we're approaching the 7 billion humans mark, if anything having kids is a selfish act. The unselfish thing to do is to let other people's kids have one less warm body stealing what precious little clean air & water there will be in 50 years.
Once we figure out how to colonize space we can resume the baby making disco train.
Any life experience is far more complicated that the subject questions address. Ask college students if being in school is expensive and stressful. I bet they'll overwhelmingly say yes. Ask a professional years later if going to college was a good idea nonetheless and whether it has added to the quality of their life. You'll likely get another 'yes'. You can apply that to numerous life experiences... I mean, if you're really interested in what add value to life. My guess is you'll get a resounding yes to having children. Is it delusion? Not for all of us who value family and are willing to slog through the tough parts in order to have that most meaningful of relationships.
That's a good point. Beyond that, I think having kids gives parents an excuse to be selfish. Their children are mini representations of themselves, right? You can't go around talking about how awesome you are all day (unless you're Charlie Sheen), because it would put people off. So, the next best thing is to talk about how great your kids are. And then try to force them to do things that you were too stupid to do the first time around. Amirite?
No (verified) kids here. Not yet, anyway.
Edit: Is this a troll? :/ If not...
Makes sense then, because your argument is pretty much opposite of what I think would be the reality.
"Beyond that, I think having kids gives parents an excuse to be selfish."
Keyword "self"; when you have a child, your giving up a part of that "self".. :/
It's funny how every parent planned the birth of their kids out.
The truth is that a vast majority of pregnancies are unplanned. Here are some examples of the excuses they tell..
'She grabbed my ass and held me in!'
'The rubber broke.'
'I asked her if she was on the pill.'
'She tricked me!'
'She wanted a kid.'
'I usually pull out perfectly all the time.'
'It's not mine.'
'I was drunk.'
'It felt good.'
'I didn't even cum!'
'She sleeps with so many other guys.'
'She overpowered me.'
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The truth is that a vast majority of pregnancies are unplanned. Here are some examples of the excuses they tell..
'She grabbed my ass and held me in!'
'The rubber broke.'
'I asked her if she was on the pill.'
'She tricked me!'
'She wanted a kid.'
'I usually pull out perfectly all the time.'
'It's not mine.'
'I was drunk.'
'It felt good.'
'I didn't even cum!'
'She sleeps with so many other guys.'
'She overpowered me.'
:liebe028:
:angrysoapbox_sml:
Note: I don't think this post is going to make me any more popular around here, but I just can't stop myself.
Having Kids = Selfishness. - In almost every situation, now that the world is such a crowded place.
They didn't fucking ask you to have them anyway, even if it was utopia here.
Yes, I told my parents this. On many occasions. In fact I didn't know how bad the world was yet back then, but all the same I figured out that they were being selfish for creating me just to be there for them... Like I was another pet, toy, or slave. I was brought into being because some other beings wanted me to be something they had in mind. -Does that sound selfless to you?
Speaking of slavery, it's important to put parenting into perspective.
For eons humans have used ALL children as slaves. Period.
Not always sent away as slave labor, but usually working as farmhands on their parents farms or family businesses and so on. All religions, all over the world; All slavery as far as I'm concerned up until modern times.
However it does still go on today in developing countries, and even with a large percentage of Americans too!
They wouldn't admit it of course, but their family standard of work is still one passed down for generations and it's just their standard of doing chores that make them act as slaves.
Then there is the modern class of people like I am sure many of you reading this belong to; you likely mean better than any slavery at all for your child and even want to give them a much improved life over your own... But of course no one has trained you how to do so... Many of you will be no better at parenting than your parents were simply because there aren't school courses on being a good parent. (And you have a standard of work that your parents passed to you, meaning you wouldn't know how good a life you could give them!)
There is hope for us as a species though.
In the last 200 or so years, the upper-most caring individuals (Usually always very wealthy or even royalty) have started practicing the crazy idea of only having children when they know damn well they are ready to give their child the best life humanly possible.
I'd say we've got something like 500 such people on the Earth right now that fit this description... Could be more though, I haven't met everyone yet.
I was obviously not such a child, in fact I haven't talked to my lazy redneck parents in 10 years. However my wife and her brothers are this kind of lucky person. They truly lived a Utopic childhood, and I can tell you for a fact that such a childhood could never spoil anyone.
The most necessary ingredient to spoiling a child is: Not giving them as much attention as they want. -That's it. It has nothing to do with wealth, no matter how rich Veruca Salt's daddy was. He just should have paid more attention to her instead of bribing her so much.
Anyway, my wife's parents had my wife and her brothers only when fully ready and in every way gave up their own lives to pay 100% attention to them until they were old enough to move away and get married... In fact when we visit today they go back into that mode again and their lives there are totally put on hold 100%.
It's difficult for most people to believe how seriously they took the job of parenting. Many of you will think it is freakish, but it worked beyond your wildest dreams...
I'm talking about ending their careers, hiring a staff of people like nannys, cooks, & educators, all to be there for everything the child needs; but most importantly, the main contact with each is still the parent. 24/7/365/LIFE.
Today my wife and her siblings truly couldn't want anything else, even if you took away all their money, and today they have no desire to drive a $100k car or own a huge mansion. They're waaaaay to smart for that. (Oxford grads, FTW.) They all would look down on silly organizations like Mensa and have already, by their 30's, contributed something major to the world in their fields of expertise.
Anyway, sorry about the longwindedness, and I'm not doing this to brag, really. I think it is extremely interesting how different people are of different standards, and how standards dictate things like our happiness and even our actual evolution.
When I first got away from my parent's bad influence, I still wanted children. Not to be slaves or anything, but so that my way of life could go on, I guess.
That was selfish. Now that I know what humans can be, I would never, ever bring a child into this horrible world unless I could do it like my in-laws did it.
Every last one of you would feel the same way too if you knew them half as well as I do. It's really that incredible.
So the moral here is: If you're going to be a parent, Educate the HELL out of yourself on the subject first. Not just a couple books, but EVERY book on parenting would be a good start.
...But just a start.
Until humanity goes down this path we are no more than a bunch of slave-making monkeys, and deserve the uber-crowded, polluted, crappy world we're making ourselves through extreme overpopulation.
Yeah, because ending your career and hiring a staff of employees is so crucial to raising a decent child.
Fail troll, not even Corky could come up with this shit.
Listen, if your parents were that bad, take it as a hint not to speak, you've been contaminated since birth.
...The excuses start already. Jesus.
That didn't take long.
...& by the way, it wasn't an attack on anyone... Just experience.
That didn't take long.
...& by the way, it wasn't an attack on anyone... Just experience.
Rich/smart people need to have more kids. More people with the "end welfare" ideas rather than these idiocracy cases that keep having like 5+ of them each now.
Point out the excuses I made. Learn english.
Experience? Being born and having a wife with a Utopian family doesn't make you an expert on raising children. Have children first and then maybe your opinions will hold some weight.
There are plenty of ultra rich as fuck families who have nannies and everything you mentioned with children who end up being worthless.
There, edited that for you
While there's usually a correlation between being rich and smart, there are plenty of smart people who aren't rich; and end up being much better parents.
My English is fine; It was a sad excuse. But I'm going to do you a favor and let you figure out that one on your own.
You do realize that is the oldest argument in the book of being a parent, right? ...And another excuse.
Goes perfectly along with my point when I said:
LukeP said:
Don't take this so personally, dreamache, it's not an attack on you unless you step forward and say it is so... I have no idea how much time you plan to spend on your child.
I agree with you, I wish your parents never brought you into this world as well... (but I feel that way about all idiot pricks that behave like idiot pricks on both DFB an WF forums)
Oh I dunno, before I had kids I took myself and my "feelings" way to seriously. Deeply angry about the state of the world and all that happy-crappy.
Having kids did make me lighten up a bit. Stopped staring at my navel so much.
The few single people I know who are the same age as me sure don't look any happier. Oh yeah, they'll loudly proclaim that they have easier lives than us poor folks with kids (and then they start to complain about politicians, environment, taxes, whatever)
Having kids did make me lighten up a bit. Stopped staring at my navel so much.
The few single people I know who are the same age as me sure don't look any happier. Oh yeah, they'll loudly proclaim that they have easier lives than us poor folks with kids (and then they start to complain about politicians, environment, taxes, whatever)
Right. My point was that one's offspring is the closest thing to "self" since it is half of their genes. I'm sure it is a shit ton of work and sacrifice and I wouldn't know the first thing about it, but, it's not like you would do all of that for someone else's kid...amirite?
In any case, whenever grandparents are visited by their kids or grandkids it always seems like the happiest moment of their lives. I would hate to get that old and not have established a clan to keep me company in between me playing whatever sort of online games for old people are popular when that time comes for me. So, I'll probably knock someone up sooner or later.