SpamWow 4.0: Still Ranking With Churn and Burn Spam
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Wow... A lot of hate.. for something that apparently "doesn't work"... Damn, physical threats... That's when you know people are really upset that this is public...
I think you have me confused with someone else entirely. I know lots of programmers that are into SEO that steal ideas on this forum, but I am for sure not someone that does and I am sure plenty of respected members on this board will attest to that.
I do not even know who the fuck you are. You for sure must have me personally confused with someone else you have worked for in the past.
P.S. Someone that threatens someone on a forum like a little child, then deletes it, sure has a lot of credibility behind them don't they?
Picklemonster works with me. He is obviously still pissed at the fact that you were posting to our Drupal accounts and using basically our whole system which your buddy who setup the your service for you lifted from us, along with our Drupal accounts and god knows what else.
Your utter bullshit like this REALLY pisses me off. Jordan or whatever his name is ripped this whole system from US. Then passed it along to you... and you have the audacity to say shit like the above.
I've ignored this for now as I couldn't be fucked with getting into shit like this on a public forum. Now I've said what I need to so stfu and get on with selling your service in the WaFa circle-jerk fashion with your buddies. I won't be posting back here unless you want me to with proofs and whatnot.
Lol a lot of energy? Like 1 minute to post? I'm not attacking either just posed a question based off an obvious observation. You're the one trying to frame it as being a hater and an attack, not me.
I'd love for this service to be ranking sites as it would mean there was a way to rank still. What would I try to be stopping from 'working' when it's clear to anyone that right now not much is. If the top players in this niche moved on what does that say when even they can't rank.
Or maybe that's just an attempt to also reframe it to look like I'm 'trying to stop it' to make it seem more valuable
That troll was a joke, you're reading into it too far.
As long as we all agree that Spamwow works - doesn't make any sense why all the UK haters are coming out of the woodworks... Just seems systematic to me... It's like there is a group of payday loan spammers in the UK that don't want this in the public... I wouldn't call it a Cartel...
Listen, if you have an issue with someone I know or work with then you need to deal with that person on a 1x1 level. I don't know you or Picklemonster, but to post in MY thread and try to question my service is on a whole other level if your beef is with someone else and not me. I know nothing about your system specifically or your Drupal accounts, but I can guarantee you that our system isn't posting to Drupal accounts owned by anyone but us at the moment. If something happened between you and someone else in the past before me, then you need to keep it between you 2.
I find it funny that you posted on my Spamwow threads before:
http://www.wickedfire.com/links-seo/170213-spamwow-spam-rankings-done-right-2.html#post1993353
^^ if there was an issue before with all this, why did you want to order from me? I mean, you had the same system I so called LIFTED from you right? BTW I dont even fucking use Zenno, so if thats your game then I know your crazy.
Also, if you could rank so well with your system ( which Spamwow does well ), why would you be considering buying from me? Why could you just bust out 50 sites with your Zenno and rank them? Smells like some BS to me
Also seems you heavily counted on SAPE too as your "strategy". I never did and SpamWow didnt either pal:
http://www.wickedfire.com/traffic-content/171045-fall-sape-post2002695.html#post2002695
You also have a odd view of "westerners" getting into UK payday loans before:
http://www.wickedfire.com/traffic-c...age-google-uk-payday-loans-2.html#post1905930
Also, your ranking strategy that you call it, seems to be heavy in securing BSTs from people here at Wickedfire and getting free reviews, just look at your prior posts, which is focuses on BST buys and free reviews. Doesnt really seem like a strategy worth lifting to me.
You had another chance to hate too:
http://www.wickedfire.com/links-seo/170213-spamwow-spam-rankings-done-right.html#post1988182
Seems like a lot of this is either BS, hate, or some beef you have with someone else. Dont include me in your beef you might have with someone else, but it seems like your system didnt even work to begin with from the looks of it, so why would someone even lift it? hmmmm
You say my buddy stole and lifted something off of you and apparently you guys worked together in the past closely from what picklemonster said, but you don't know his name? Jordan or whatever his name is? Sounds like you got your shit together there buddy.
I doubt you have proof I have done anything to you, so your just thread crashing on my thread. Everything I have connected here you have a beef with someone else entirely that "stole" a non working ranking strategy that I pointed out above, someone you didnt even know their name, and someone that is connected to me, but is is not me.
If you think whatever strategy someone stole from you however long ago still works today, then I must say you are an idiot. From my point of view though, I have contributed a lot to what the strategy behind what Spamwow is today, like the fact we are doing 301's for people this roun of the service, so I guess I stole that from you too?
Whatever happened with you and someone else in the past, happened in the past and has nothing to do with me currently.
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Previously, not at the moment.
At this point I didn't even realise you were working with Jordan.
Wtf who mentioned Zenno?
He goes by Jordan and John. Don't pretend you don't know who he is. You have admitted it to VERY reputable members here.
Yes I do, we can handle it on here or we can handle it outside of your thread if you'd prefer. Either way I'm easy.
This is the type of bullshit I didn't want to have to deal with, but guess we're past that point now so lets get on with it.
1. You mentioned zenno here:
http://www.wickedfire.com/links-seo/170213-spamwow-spam-rankings-done-right-2.html#post1993353 . You said you could make 50 sites with zenno all day long. Well, if you could and if your strategy that you say was stolen worked, why didnt you do it? Why did you rely on BST's, free reviews, and SAPE links to rank you instead?
2. your the one that mentioned "jordan or whatever his name is". Im mocking you.
3. I never once said I didnt work with him, I have no reason to hide that or suggest otherwise. I was making fun of you as you are saying someone that YOU worked with 1x1 lifted something from you and you didnt even know his name, you brought that up.
I personally have nothing to hide. SpamWow is what is today because of continuous improvement, evolution, and hard work to improve upon it. My partner did bring the original plans for Spamwow to me when we started, but it is nothing like what it was before when we started. What worked 6 months ago doesnt work today. I do not know what happened with you and your partner, and I chose not to know. Its not my concern.
If you have something to prove or have some beef and need to get it off your chest, I suggest we do so in private. You and your partner ( which sounds like a 13 year old child who could barely throw a swing ) have already chosen to on purpose crash MY thread that has nothing to do with you.
You obviously know how to reach out to me, as you have reached out to others around me about this but have not decided to do so with me directly, which is also a bitch move.
I suggest you grow a pair of balls ( or bollocks ) and man up and at least talk to me specifically and directly before derailing a service that has nothing to do with you atm.
Is this Greg Fowler? Stop crashing Eliquids thread if you have so much beef take it to the Daily Hustle if your a member or private message him. You've wasted our time with your rifraff.
isnt there some rule about fucking thread crashing or some shit?
its all good for eliquid he gets free bumps.
this service has been here for what 3 years now and some fucking 4 post acct isn't gonna prove shit.
SpamWOW for LIFE
its all good for eliquid he gets free bumps.
this service has been here for what 3 years now and some fucking 4 post acct isn't gonna prove shit.
SpamWOW for LIFE
SpamWOW has existed for all of a few months, not 3 years.
I don't have 4 posts, and I'm willing to come out and say that spam isn't ranking sites in ultra competitive niches such as payday loans anymore, and IMO to imply you are still doing so is disingenuous. The best in the business can't rank right now, so sure as hell a BST can't rank you.
It doesn't take a genius to do a Google search and see that spam isn't ranking in Payday any more. The odd parasite pops up top 10 for a day or two max, but the game has changed. Massively. That applies to all of the traditional $xxxx-$xxxxx/day affiliate niches, from insurance to pharma and porn. Google has targeted them specifically.
Months ago I saw the accounts that Spamwow was posting into, that were owned by someone else. Although the specific examples I've dragged up from the skype chats have all died (it's the nature of spam - turnover is high, links get lost fast). Whether that happens now or not I don't know (and don't really care, which is why I didn't post at the time -- I have no horse in this race). Whether eliquid knew at the time or not, who knows. No one can prove it. I just don't like to see people who I know are legitimate guys getting publicly assassinated on a forum due to a post count. Or lumped into some "they can't rank and just buy BSTs" deflection -- how is that a defence? I've personally met a lot of the low post count wonders in this thread, and they do much better coin than probably 98% of WF.
For the last 12 months or so eliquid has had a pretty big head, from posts on a certain spam software's forum talking about how "he" was behind the latest google spam updates (more people probably saw that than you thought before it was deleted -- and boy did that thread backfire) through to general bullshit on WF. Understandably this pissed the people off who had the mods/software developed for themselves privately originally, who had it effectively outted on a mass scale via a public service, due to a programmer reselling it behind their backs. I'm therefore not sure how eliquid can take full credit for spamwow, although maybe I am missing something?
301's are not the innovation here, and to claim that's a big part of spamwow's ranking power or whatever else is laughable, as is tiering, etc, all that bullshit is icing on the cake/tweaking once you have the software to scrape fresh lists & post to the properties effectively en masse in the first place.
As numerous people in this thread itself have said, the real money makers keep their heads down and keep on banking. They're not looking for a public ego massage. I still can't really comprehend why this service ever existed. It at least once worked, and would generate ROI on a scale much bigger than a few $300-$500 sales each day, yet instead many people are now struggling to earn anything resembling ROI from this kinda stuff due to the mass awareness that has arisen from these sorts of services, and it seems funny that the BST has arisen once more just a couple weeks after people started struggling again. A bit more blackhat site production knowledge would have gone an awful long way to a much better ROI for eliquid.
Happy to be banned from WF for this post incidentally, for thread crashing, dicking on a well respected member or whatever else. Too much stuff is left to just "slide" in BST these days. I mean how long did a certain illegal link service continue to be sold? How is that thread being run by the ridiculous asshat claiming to do 1 million links per minute still in existence? People laugh at the BST, and that's because people get shot down / banned / exiled for speaking up about anything not quite legit -- and shady shit of shady origins is allowed to be sold ad infinitum.
All I want to hear is an open explanation as to how eliquid acquired the software, who his xrumer mod partner in the original spamwow was, and whether this partner is still actively involved in the development of spamwow today. If I'm entirely off base I'd love to be proven wrong. Prove me/the above posters wrong, and explain what has happened here.
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