So I started ANOTHER hosting company. IonVZ.com - Softlayer Datacenter

Then I still don't see the point in forbidding VPNs (actually the TUN/TAP interface, but that means practically the same). I mean what does it allow you to do that you couldn't without some other way (and is illegal/immoral/anti-Christian)?

Edit: What kind of roaming do you mean? Oh and excueeze me, are you accusing me of malevolent intentions? Is trying to buy music by LEGAL MEANS (instead of resorting to torrents/rapidshare/megaupload etc.) something bad? Or watching LEGAL video streams meant for Yanks only?

:P Not acusing you of anything, just simply stating that because others in the past have caused such a pain in the ass (all it takes is one person on a server to ruin it for everyone), its simply become a policy to not allow them. And the SSH tunneling comment was tongue in cheek as to why one would really need TUN/TAP to do what you said. And far the whole "buying music by legal means", its actually against their terms when you're trying to circumvent the company's geographic restrictions, its not our place to judge but at the same time like eric said, proxies are cheap, you should buy a service for it's intended purpose.

To give you an example... softlayer allows porn on their network, we don't want to deal with it, just because softlayer allows it doesn't mean we will (its a huge pain in the ass when someone tries to start a pay site and they completely ignore 2257 record keeping regulations). Based on some of the responses if someone has the means to offer services like VPN, Proxies, and various services of network/licensing circumvention it may be a good time to open up your own buy&sell thread. :P

In short: VPS Hosting services are meant for VPS Hosting. Not 'I wana use a VPS hosting provider to circumvent my country's and/or preferred artist's policy of giving the yanks first bid, fuck em'. :D
 


:P Not accusing you of anything, just simply stating that because others in the past have caused such a pain in the ass (all it takes is one person on a server to ruin it for everyone), its simply become a policy to not allow them.

Which one of you is the puppet master? You seem to complement each other too well in the discussion :P

Yeah, I know, using your VPS containers for spamming, cc fraud etc. is not a nice thing to do. Still, it's a niche and some people actually do offer their services to such people as well (with optional automatic log scraping, data wiping, data encryption etc. :P). It's your decision if you don't and I'm fine with that. Your business, and your decision as well.

And the SSH tunneling comment was tongue in cheek as to why one would really need TUN/TAP to do what you said. And far the whole "buying music by legal means", its actually against their terms when you're trying to circumvent the company's geographic restrictions, its not our place to judge but at the same time like eric said, proxies are cheap, you should buy a service for its intended purpose.

Don't worry, proxy daemons can be installed on VPSes quite quickly too. Just in case ;) Besides I don't think that VPN is essential in aiding for any illegal activity. Especially if you manage to route the data through various separate VPSes, all paid for using different (and possibly stolen) CC numbers.....still. My point is that no technology is inherently dangerous/bad/malicious in its nature. It always depends on the human using that particular technology.

<rant>
As for the music, well, well, well. It isn't only about letting the music authors have their money after all, is it? Do I smell some nasty American cartel behind such agreements (and geographic restrictions)? Turns out all that BS they've been feeding to the world media all these years was pure and soulless demagoguery after all. Why is that I'm not surprised at all. But then why don't they STFU then about torrent users stealing music (it happened a few times that I had to get songs from...ahem..."alternative" sources for this very reason)? What's even more strange, this is usually present only on American sites. I haven't had these problems on Canadian sites for example. How typical....
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To give you an example... softlayer allows porn on their network, we don't want to deal with it, just because softlayer allows it doesn't mean we will. Based on some of the responses if someone has the means to offer services like VPN, Proxies, and various services of network/licensing circumvention it may be a good time to open up your own buy&sell thread. :P

Yeah, I'd love to sell my soul to the devil, but he wouldn't need this forum for that :P As for the rest, see my reply above.
 
IF its really important to you, just go get a very cheap dedicated server and deal with it yourself :P But then again its easier to just get a disposable VPS account, and just easily move on when that IP gets shitlisted. :P

And this was the only relevant part of your reply:
It's your decision if you don't and I'm fine with that.

Also far as the puppetmaster comment, we're 50/50 partners. I trust Eric's judgement on a lot of his policy decisions simply because he's been in the VPS hosting game for 3 years running, and with the same company at that.
 
IF its really important to you, just go get a very cheap dedicated server and deal with it yourself :P But then again its easier to just get a disposable VPS account, and just easily move on when that IP gets shitlisted. :P

Yeah. I guess managing all the underworld operations/transactions can be quite conveniently done online as well. Aaah, the wonders of the modern technology :P

Also far as the puppetmaster comment, we're 50/50 partners. I trust Eric's judgement on a lot of his policy decisions simply because he's been in the VPS hosting game for 3 years running, and with the same company at that.
Oh come on, man! Can't you take a joke? :P He kinda said the same when he started the topic.
Besides, chill out! I'm not here to ask you about all the illegal means a VPS can be (ab)used nor to ruin your business (opportunity). I just somehow knew that you wouldn't be thrilled with the idea of someone running OpenVPN (or even better, pptpd :P) on your server(s). Very few hosting companies like it actually (not that I couldn't install it on a dedi) :P
 
Oh come on, man! Can't you take a joke? :P He kinda said the same when he started the topic.
Besides, chill out! I'm not here to ask you about all the illegal means a VPS can be (ab)used nor to ruin your business (opportunity). I just somehow knew that you wouldn't be thrilled with the idea of someone running OpenVPN (or even better, pptpd :P) on your server(s). Very few hosting companies like it actually (not that I couldn't install it on a dedi) :P

I'm just being straight with you, its hard to tell when someone is joking or being serious in a place such as this without the over-abundant use of smilies.
:food-smiley-010:
 
Gbit fail.

You will never get a gbit on a single-thread unless you place two servers right next to each other. But what you can do is have multiple connections (say for example Adult movies, streaming @ 256kbps/ on multiple threads that can go up to the 1000Mbit constantly or several thousand people downloading at once until the combined bandwidth reaches a gbit). The point of the speed test is not to max out the port (that'd be nearly impossible to do, especially since there are already VPSes on the box, and that'd also be bad if a single connection could max it out), but rather to test latency, and speed for a single-threaded request.

You understand?
 
Here's the results from the XO facility in Los Angeles.


[root@srv ~]#wget http://vm.ionvz.com/test100.zip
--2010-06-21 16:56:16-- http://vm.ionvz.com/test100.zip
Resolving vm.ionvz.com... 173.192.34.108
Connecting to vm.ionvz.com|173.192.34.108|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 104874307 (100M) [application/zip]
Saving to: `test100.zip'

100%[======================================>] 104,874,307 512K/s in 2m 25s

2010-06-21 16:58:49 (706 KB/s) - `test100.zip' saved [104874307/104874307]

[root@srv ~]#wget http://cachefly.cachefly.net/100mb.test
--2010-06-21 16:59:06-- http://cachefly.cachefly.net/100mb.test
Resolving cachefly.cachefly.net... 205.234.175.175
Connecting to cachefly.cachefly.net|205.234.175.175|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 104857600 (100M) [application/octet-stream]
Saving to: `100mb.test'

100%[======================================>] 104,857,600 10.5M/s in 9.5s

2010-06-21 16:59:20 (10.5 MB/s) - `100mb.test' saved [104857600/104857600]
 
Here's the results from the XO facility in Los Angeles.


[root@srv ~]#wget http://vm.ionvz.com/test100.zip
--2010-06-21 16:56:16-- http://vm.ionvz.com/test100.zip
Resolving vm.ionvz.com... 173.192.34.108
Connecting to vm.ionvz.com|173.192.34.108|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 104874307 (100M) [application/zip]
Saving to: `test100.zip'

100%[======================================>] 104,874,307 512K/s in 2m 25s

2010-06-21 16:58:49 (706 KB/s) - `test100.zip' saved [104874307/104874307]

[root@srv ~]#wget http://cachefly.cachefly.net/100mb.test
--2010-06-21 16:59:06-- http://cachefly.cachefly.net/100mb.test
Resolving cachefly.cachefly.net... 205.234.175.175
Connecting to cachefly.cachefly.net|205.234.175.175|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 104857600 (100M) [application/octet-stream]
Saving to: `100mb.test'

100%[======================================>] 104,857,600 10.5M/s in 9.5s

2010-06-21 16:59:20 (10.5 MB/s) - `100mb.test' saved [104857600/104857600]

There's actually some routing issues at Softlayer right now (lots of packet loss, at least in Dallas). So take these tests with a grain of salt... then again, you might want to check your connection, because...

[root@node4 ~]# wget http://vm.ionvz.com/100mb.test
--16:35:24-- http://vm.ionvz.com/100mb.test
Resolving vm.ionvz.com... 173.192.34.108
Connecting to vm.ionvz.com|173.192.34.108|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 104857600 (100M) [application/octet-stream]
Saving to: `100mb.test'

100%[=======================================>] 104,857,600 9.09M/s in 11s

16:35:36 (8.85 MB/s) - `100mb.test' saved [104857600/104857600]
 
Same results, no connection issues here as you can see from the Cachefly file.


[root@srv ~]#wget http://vm.ionvz.com/100mb.test
--2010-06-21 17:45:47-- http://vm.ionvz.com/100mb.test
Resolving vm.ionvz.com... 173.192.34.108
Connecting to vm.ionvz.com|173.192.34.108|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 104857600 (100M) [application/octet-stream]
Saving to: `100mb.test'

100%[======================================>] 104,857,600 571K/s in 5m 39s

2010-06-21 17:51:30 (302 KB/s) - `100mb.test' saved [104857600/104857600]

[root@srv ~]#wget http://cachefly.cachefly.net/100mb.test
--2010-06-21 17:56:26-- http://cachefly.cachefly.net/100mb.test
Resolving cachefly.cachefly.net... 205.234.175.175
Connecting to cachefly.cachefly.net|205.234.175.175|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 104857600 (100M) [application/octet-stream]
Saving to: `100mb.test.1'

100%[======================================>] 104,857,600 10.9M/s in 9.3s

2010-06-21 17:56:39 (10.7 MB/s) - `100mb.test.1' saved [104857600/104857600]
 
Same results, no connection issues here as you can see from the Cachefly file.


[root@srv ~]#wget http://vm.ionvz.com/100mb.test
--2010-06-21 17:45:47-- http://vm.ionvz.com/100mb.test
Resolving vm.ionvz.com... 173.192.34.108
Connecting to vm.ionvz.com|173.192.34.108|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 104857600 (100M) [application/octet-stream]
Saving to: `100mb.test'

100%[======================================>] 104,857,600 571K/s in 5m 39s

2010-06-21 17:51:30 (302 KB/s) - `100mb.test' saved [104857600/104857600]

[root@srv ~]#wget http://cachefly.cachefly.net/100mb.test
--2010-06-21 17:56:26-- http://cachefly.cachefly.net/100mb.test
Resolving cachefly.cachefly.net... 205.234.175.175
Connecting to cachefly.cachefly.net|205.234.175.175|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 104857600 (100M) [application/octet-stream]
Saving to: `100mb.test.1'

100%[======================================>] 104,857,600 10.9M/s in 9.3s

2010-06-21 17:56:39 (10.7 MB/s) - `100mb.test.1' saved [104857600/104857600]

May want to double check your transit routes bud.

root@server1 [~]# wget http://vm.ionvz.com/100mb.test
--18:32:36-- http://vm.ionvz.com/100mb.test
=> `100mb.test'
Resolving vm.ionvz.com... 173.192.34.108
Connecting to vm.ionvz.com|173.192.34.108|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 104,857,600 (100M) [application/octet-stream]

100%[===================================================================================================================================================================>] 104,857,600 9.19M/s ETA 00:00

18:32:46 (9.75 MB/s) - `100mb.test' saved [104857600/104857600]

9.75MB/s from 100mbit in FortressITX, NJ.

It's throwing me through nLayer to RR back to nLayer, good route *thumbs up*
 
ATTENTION: SOLD OUT FOR NOW

Since I've partnered with Karl on this I'd like to make sure we can handle the one server before moving on, so we're pausing new signups for now. We've filled up this server and don't want to overload ourselves with too much too quick. We have a few other things that we're working on launching soon, so we need to make sure we still have time for those as well...

Sorry for the big text, needed to make sure everyone saw this.
 
wow, sold out already? You don't seem to waste your time when it comes to business, do you ;) Keep up the good work! ;)

I guess it would be a better idea to put this to the topic's title so that everyone sees it as soon as he opens the topic listing.
 
wow, sold out already? You don't seem to waste your time when it comes to business, do you ;) Keep up the good work! ;)

I guess it would be a better idea to put this to the topic's title so that everyone sees it as soon as he opens the topic listing.

He's not a moderator, he can't change the topic title.

:rasta:

But once we get another server, won't need to change the original post (except of course if we start offering locations in other networks, had a couple people ask us if we had something outside of softlayer's network).
 
You guys are sold out, so you don't need the rep., but:

Resolving vm.ionvz.com... 173.192.34.108
Connecting to vm.ionvz.com|173.192.34.108|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 104857600 (100M) [application/octet-stream]
Saving to: `100mb.test'

100%[======================================>] 104,857,600 17.8M/s in 6.0s

2010-06-22 13:34:32 (16.6 MB/s) - `100mb.test' saved [104857600/104857600]

Plus similar results on my 4 other servers. And maxing my residential line at about 1.2MB/s.
 
I just came in to ask if you guys did windows?







Just kidding.

Seems like great deals, I'll look into getting something with you guys soon.