RIP Robin Williams
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Do you really think that something like a divorce (or pick any of life's hardships for that matter) will drive someone who's in perfect mental health to kill themselves?
Are you serious? You can't understand why he maybe suffered from severe depression, or what? Look at the guy, his creativity and eccentricity are off the charts, and not only that, he was one of the rare ones who managed to turn that into greatness. You don't see how it would be difficult for someone like him to live in a world like this?
Depression is most accurately summed up by the word "hopelessness". King did a great job at describing it in his post above.
There is no definitive answer to the question "what causes depression?". It's a question that we haven't been able to discover the answer to.
An "illness" is defined as "a disease or period of sickness affecting the body or mind".
Do you feel it is inaccurate to classify depression as a period of sickness affecting the body or mind?
If you're talking about depression you can't use the colloquial definition for illness.
Ie: Illness in this scenario would be an objective diagnosis based on a symptomatic profile, whereas sickness would be the patient's own interpretation of this illness and what it means for them in a psychosocial context.
There's a stark difference between the two and determining where one ends and the other begins is a major part of any research into mental illness.
Depression is an absolute monstrous bitch, though. RIP Robin.
Happiness is incredibly relative.
Ie: Illness in this scenario would be an objective diagnosis based on a symptomatic profile, whereas sickness would be the patient's own interpretation of this illness and what it means for them in a psychosocial context.
There's a stark difference between the two and determining where one ends and the other begins is a major part of any research into mental illness.
Depression is an absolute monstrous bitch, though. RIP Robin.
Happiness is incredibly relative.
First, his quote basically said ANYONE who commits suicide has a mental illness.. so i wasn't even necessarily talking about RW.
But what is perfect mental health? Does anyone here have it? Do we let Phizer tell us what perfect mental health is.. or even what good mental health is?
I'm not saying he should be pitied for committing suicide or that he was justified. But I am saying it's his life and he can do whatever the fuck he wants with it and he doesn't have to justify it to anyone.
Yes, any of life's hardships (including divorce) could be the last straw for someone who feels like shit all the time physically or mentally. And not knowing the real situation I can only guess RW felt like shit all the time because of how high he got in the past from major drug usage.
Anyway, if there ever comes a time in my life when I feel pain much more than pleasure on a long term basis with very little hope of change I'll be checking out manually - no fucking question. I am guessing this could easily happen when I get old from illnesses etc.
Here's the thing... the human brain is a complex thing. I've never known a single person who could be described as having perfect mental health. Everyone I've ever gotten to know well has some kind of hangups or issues, most of them are minor, but they're still there. For the majority of people these things don't effect their daily lives, so they remain functional productive members of society.
Also, I've known a number of guys who went to war with otherwise healthy minds and came back with PTSD and other issues. Events, hardships and trauma can damage a person.
Kiopa_Matt
wow my first dislike vote
sorry to offend you.. I guess I should have disliked you also when you took my money for your software and left us hanging in the wind to dry.
thats ok.. I learn to stay away from vendors like yourself.
everyone has an opinion..
we all have issues.. some worse.. some not so worse... my point is.. taking ones life is a cowards path.. pure and simple..
again to be so self absorbed in oneself.. would be the same as george reeves ( the original TV superman) to kill himself because he was typecast..
anyway.. good luck in your software ventures
wow my first dislike vote
sorry to offend you.. I guess I should have disliked you also when you took my money for your software and left us hanging in the wind to dry. thats ok.. I learn to stay away from vendors like yourself.
everyone has an opinion..
we all have issues.. some worse.. some not so worse... my point is.. taking ones life is a cowards path.. pure and simple..
again to be so self absorbed in oneself.. would be the same as george reeves ( the original TV superman) to kill himself because he was typecast..
anyway.. good luck in your software ventures
Such original thinking you got there.. definitely not regurgitated nonsense.
It's about as dumb as other over-used regurgitated nonsense phrases like 'All suicide bombers are cowards.' , 'All terrorists are cowards', etc etc. Suicide bombers are dumb but not cowards.
RIP buddy.
For the longest time I thought suicide was the cowards way out, or somehow for "chicken shits" but the older I get the more the idea of going out on my own terms seems more appealing.
The man lived by his own terms and died by his own terms. That's how I want to live and die.
For the longest time I thought suicide was the cowards way out, or somehow for "chicken shits" but the older I get the more the idea of going out on my own terms seems more appealing.
The man lived by his own terms and died by his own terms. That's how I want to live and die.
