Martin Grunin - Facebook Ads Fraud - Bank Fraud - mgrunin

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I fully expect that he'll face criminal charges of some sort. I don't see how there won't be criminal charges when there are multiple instances of interstate fraud at the heart of this thing.

The retardedness with regard to his civil suit shenanigans shouldn't have any effect on a criminal trial or sentencing. But shouldn't and won't are sometimes very different things once you're inside a courtroom.

Whether he serves time or gets probation if convicted is another matter.

IANAL.
 


I fully expect that he'll face criminal charges of some sort. I don't see how there won't be criminal charges when there are multiple instances of interstate fraud at the heart of this thing.

The retardedness with regard to his civil suit shenanigans shouldn't have any effect on a criminal trial or sentencing. But shouldn't and won't are sometimes very different things once you're inside a courtroom.

Whether he serves time or gets probation if convicted is another matter.

IANAL.
Ehh, hard to tell when the prosecutors want to press for fraud chargers. White collar crime doesn't get the same priorities. Besides, FB may not push for criminal chargers just to keep from being the "bad guy" and just focus on putting a judgement over his head.

I think grunin is just stalling until Costello passes the bar exam.

No way in hell Costello passes the bar committee to take the exam with a felony sitting over his head, long rap sheet, and with him already providing legal counsel.
 
FBI

So much wut?

Snicker...


Sovereign citizens often produce documents that contain peculiar or out-of-place language. In some cases, they speak their own language or will write only in certain colors, such as in red crayon. Several indicators can help identify
these individuals.

  • References to the Bible, The Constitution of the United States, U.S. Supreme Court decisions, or treaties with foreign governments
  • Personal names spelled in all capital letters or interspersed with colons (e.g., JOHN SMITH or Smith: John)
  • Signatures followed by the words “under duress,” “Sovereign Living Soul” (SLS), or a copyright symbol (©)
  • Personal seals, stamps, or thumb prints in red ink
  • The words “accepted for value”
At a minimum, these activities create a voluminous influx of documents that clog the courts and other government agencies.
They also sell fraudulent documents—including drivers’ licenses, passports, diplomat identification, vehicle registrations, concealed firearms permits, law enforcement credentials, and insurance forms—to other sovereign citizens and illegal immigrants and charge fees for “consultant services” to prepare sovereign-citizen paperwork.

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No way in hell Costello passes the bar committee to take the exam with a felony sitting over his head, long rap sheet, and with him already providing legal counsel.

Really? You sure you ain't jelly because you never met a Public Minister/Diplomat? They are pretty rare ya know.
 
I fully expect that he'll face criminal charges of some sort. I don't see how there won't be criminal charges when there are multiple instances of interstate fraud at the heart of this thing.

I'd take a nice "position" and say he'll be under federal indictment.

The Feds take their sweet ole' time and gift wrap the indictment for conviction... with the SOL being 5 years for the crimes Gruster committed they got a few years of left to nicely package this thing for a slam dunk against Gruster. + the longer they wait... the better chance they have at the defendant getting lazy and talking...

Just look at the Hogan case... eBay sued him in Federal court in 2008 then the Feds came in about 6mo before the SOL ended and indicted him.

He'll probably be charged with multiple fels like conspiracy, wire fraud, money laundering, identity theft, and more conspiracy shit.

Conspiracy is usually their "go to".

With the federal conviction rate of 97% & the long as shit sentences with no good time off, they will throw 25 felonies at him so the "reasonably sound of mind" person will plead out to 1-2 felonies & maybe get 6mo & a fine rather than risk going to trial against that % and losing 10+ years of their life.

BUT... Gruster isn't "reasonably sound of mind" as we see from his schemes & judicial proceedings.

The phrase is true... The Feds will indict a ham sandwich.

With Gruster pulling this shit wasting the gobs time & $$$... he is a fucking fat ole' piggy for them... ready for slaughter!

You can bet your bottom dolla the Feddys are making nice "support" to show his narcissistic ass who's da boss.
 
Wonderful. So mcgrunin is using a strategy on court which is marked from the FBI as possible thread with connections to terrorism.

So much for "it can't be more worse"...

And so much for the possibility to go the "just insane" way.
 
Wonderful. So mcgrunin is using a strategy on court which is marked from the FBI as possible thread with connections to terrorism.

For the last time it's mGrunin not Mcgrunin. He's an idiot not an Irishman.
 
They aren't mutually exclusive groups ;)

I meant no disrespect to my fellow Irishman. I myself am a McFinnigan!

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So, SC's are basically anarchists who think that they can use word games and esoteric interpretations of a state's legislative mechanisms to somehow fool the state into leaving them alone? Supersmart.
 
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So, SC's are basically anarchists who think that they can use word games and esoteric interpretations of a state's legislative mechanisms to somehow fool the state into leaving them alone? Supersmart.


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Don't knock it until you try it. Being an Admiral-in-fact I can sail away from my problems as they arise.
 
I just sent Costello $150 via PayPal and I am now an official Fighter-pilot-in-fact.

Here's me in my F-15E!

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Ok this may be old news to a lot of you guys, but I didn't know this was an ongoing movement. I just found the Wikipedia page highly educational. Sovereign citizen movement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


When they try it in court, it is also called Organized Pseudolegal Commercial Argument (OPCA), and if they try it in this Alberta court, they will be declared "vexatious litigant", fined and probably sent to jail:

I. Introduction to Organized Pseudolegal Commercial Argument [OPCA] Litigants

[1] This Court has developed a new awareness and understanding of a category of vexatious litigant. As we shall see, while there is often a lack of homogeneity, and some individuals or groups have no name or special identity, they (by their own admission or by descriptions given by others) often fall into the following descriptions: Detaxers; Freemen or Freemen-on-the-Land; Sovereign Men or Sovereign Citizens; Church of the Ecumenical Redemption International (CERI); Moorish Law; and other labels - there is no closed list. In the absence of a better moniker, I have collectively labelled them as Organized Pseudolegal Commercial Argument litigants [“OPCA litigants”], to functionally define them collectively for what they literally are. These persons employ a collection of techniques and arguments promoted and sold by ‘gurus’ (as hereafter defined) to disrupt court operations and to attempt to frustrate the legal rights of governments, corporations, and individuals.

[2] Over a decade of reported cases have proven that the individual concepts advanced by OPCA litigants are invalid. What remains is to categorize these schemes and concepts, identify global defects to simplify future response to variations of identified and invalid OPCA themes, and develop court procedures and sanctions for persons who adopt and advance these vexatious litigation strategies.

[3] One participant in this matter, the Respondent Dennis Larry Meads, appears to be a sophisticated and educated person, but is also an OPCA litigant. One of the purposes of these Reasons is, through this litigant, to uncover, expose, collate, and publish the tactics employed by the OPCA community, as a part of a process to eradicate the growing abuse that these litigants direct towards the justice and legal system we otherwise enjoy in Alberta and across Canada. I will respond on a point-by-point basis to the broad spectrum of OPCA schemes, concepts, and arguments advanced in this action by Mr. Meads.
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[4] OPCA litigants do not express any stereotypic beliefs other than a general rejection of court and state authority; nor do they fall into any common social or professional association. Arguments and claims of this nature emerge in all kinds of legal proceedings and all levels of Courts and tribunals. This group is unified by:

1. a characteristic set of strategies (somewhat different by group) that they employ,

2. specific but irrelevant formalities and language which they appear to believe are (or portray as) significant, and

3. the commercial sources from which their ideas and materials originate.

This category of litigant shares one other critical characteristic: they will only honour state, regulatory, contract, family, fiduciary, equitable, and criminal obligations if they feel like it. And typically, they don’t.

[5] The Meads case illustrates many characteristic features of OPCA materials, in court conduct, and litigation strategies. These Reasons will, therefore, explain my June 8, 2012 decision and provide analysis and reasoning that is available for reference and application to other similar proceedings.

[6] Naturally, my conclusions are important for these parties. However, they also are intended to assist others, who have been taken in/duped by gurus, to realize that these practices are entirely ineffective; to empower opposing parties and their counsel to take action; and as a warning to gurus that the Court will not tolerate their misconduct.

[7] As a preliminary note, I will throughout these Reasons refer to persons by their ‘normal’ names, except to illustrate various OPCA motifs and concepts. OPCA litigants frequently adopt unusual variations on personal names, for example adding irrelevant punctuation, or using unusual capital and lower case character combinations. While OPCA litigants and their gurus put special significance on these alternative nomenclature forms, these are ineffectual in law and are meaningless paper masks. Therefore, in these Reasons, I will omit spurious name forms, titles, punctuation and the like.

CanLII - 2012 ABQB 571 (CanLII)

^^ tl,dr: he used this case to write the book on OPCA methods, so other judges can cite the case when they encounter it in their courts.
 
So, SC's are basically anarchists who think that they can use word games and esoteric interpretations of a state's legislative mechanisms to somehow fool the state into leaving them alone? Supersmart.

It is not as simple as that. You gotta have a Fuckin red crayon too.
 
When they try it in court, it is also called Organized Pseudolegal Commercial Argument (OPCA), and if they try it in this Alberta court, they will be declared "vexatious litigant", fined and probably sent to jail:

CanLII - 2012 ABQB 571 (CanLII)

^^ tl,dr: he used this case to write the book on OPCA methods, so other judges can cite the case when they encounter it in their courts.

nice find. I also find this part dead on. sure hope mgrunin reads this and wakes the fuck up:

[73] A critical first point is an appreciation that the concepts discussed in these Reasons are frequently a commercial product, designed, promoted, and sold by a community of individuals, whom I refer to as “gurus”. Gurus claim that their techniques provide easy rewards – one does not have to pay tax, child and spousal support payments, or pay attention to traffic laws. There are allegedly secret but accessible bank accounts that contain nearly unlimited funds, if you know the trick to unlock their gates. You can transform a bill into a cheque with a stamp and some coloured writing. You are only subject to criminal sanction if you agree to be subject to criminal sanction. You can make yourself independent of any state obligation if you so desire, and unilaterally force and enforce demands on other persons, institutions, and the state. All this is a consequence of the fact gurus proclaim they know secret principles and law, hidden from the public, but binding on the state, courts, and individuals.

[74] And all these “secrets” can be yours, for small payment to the guru.

[75] These claims are, of course, pseudolegal nonsense. A judge who encounters and reviews OPCA concepts will find their errors are obvious and manifest, once one strips away the layers of peculiar language, irrelevant references, and deciphers the often bizarre documentation which accompanies an OPCA scheme. When reduced to their conceptual core, most OPCA concepts are contemptibly stupid. Mr. Meads, for example, has presented the Court with documents that appear to be a contract between himself, and himself. One Mr. Meads promises to pay for any liability of the other Mr. Meads. One owns all property, the other all debts. What is the difference between these entities? One spells his name with upper case letters. The other adds spurious and meaningless punctuation to his name. Mr. Meads (with punctuation) is the Mr. Meads who appeared in court. He says the Mr. Meads (all capitals) is the one who should pay child and spousal support.

[77] The bluntly idiotic substance of Mr. Mead’s argument explains the unnecessarily complicated manner in which it was presented. OPCA arguments are never sold to their customers as simple ideas, but instead are byzantine schemes which more closely resemble the plot of a dark fantasy novel than anything else. Latin maxims and powerful sounding language are often used. Documents are often ornamented with many strange marking and seals. Litigants engage in peculiar, ritual‑like in court conduct. All these features appear necessary for gurus to market OPCA schemes to their often desperate, ill‑informed, mentally disturbed, or legally abusive customers. This is crucial to understand the non-substance of any OPCA concept or strategy. The story and process of a OPCA scheme is not intended to impress or convince the Courts, but rather to impress the guru’s customer.

[78] Mediaeval alchemy is a helpful analogue. Alchemists sold their services based on the theatre of their activities, rather than demonstrated results, or any analytical or systematic methodology. OPCA gurus are modern legal alchemists. They promise gold, but their methods are principally intended to impress the gullible, or those who wish to use this drivel to abuse the court system. Any lack of legal success by the OPCA litigant is, of course, portrayed as a consequence of the customer’s failure to properly understand and apply the guru’s special knowledge.

80] When gurus do appear in court their schemes uniformly fail, which is why most leave court appearances to their customers. That explains why it is not unusual to find that an OPCA litigant cannot even explain their own materials. They did not write them. They do not (fully) understand them. OPCA litigants appear, engage in a court drama that is more akin to a magic spell ritual than an actual legal proceeding, and wait to see if the court is entranced and compliant. If not, the litigant returns home to scrutinize at what point the wrong incantation was uttered, an incorrectly prepared artifact waved or submitted.
 
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