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"My Trip To The DMV" or "Get Fucked" by ITE






  • 6am: I wake up and get moving so I can be on the road by 8:00am ( I need to do this because despite the fact that I live less than 3 miles from a DMV office, the closest DMV that handles out-of-state license applications is 30 minutes from where I live.

  • 8am: I leave the house, get cash from an ATM and grab a breakfast sandwich, before driving for approximately 30 minutes

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  • 8:45am: I arrive at the DMV office 30 minutes before they open to find a line of 50 people waiting outside. Stand in line for 30 minutes in the parking lot.

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  • 9:15am: DMV worker comes outside and collects everyone from the line who is there for a driving test (not me, I just need to file some paperwork and pay for my new license), these fortunate sons-of-bitches get to go into some side door, while the rest of us stand on the blacktop in the sun.

  • 9:20am: After rounding up all the road test people, the DMV worker comes out and explains to us that due to fire code restrictions, a limited number of people from the line will be allowed in the building at one time, while the rest of us will have to wait outside until people leave the building. He goes on to say that we should be thankful that it's a sunny day and not raining. My blood begins to boil at this point, when I realize he's actually trying to tell me to be thankful that I am fortunate enough to have my time wasted on a "nice" day.

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    At this point he opens the doors (5 mins late) and lets about 30 people into the building, leaving 20 of us outside.

  • 9:30am: 3 people leave the building, and the doorman lets 20 more of us inside. At first, I think the fire code has somehow changed in the last 15 minutes, but when I get inside the building, I see that there are easily 60 unoccupied chairs, and that this doorman guy is just a lying piece of shit who gets off on making people stand in a fucking line when there are chairs inside waiting for them.

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    Once I get inside, I look for a document table for the single form I need to fill out. There is no such table, so I get in the information line to get my number.

  • 9:40am: I get up to the information booth where some faggot with a clipboard asks me if I have my documents and forms. I tell him I've got my documents, but that there are no forms, so no, I don't have the form I need. He then gives me the form I need, and tells me to fill it out, and then "check in" at the photobooth.

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  • 9:45am: I fill the form out in under a minute, and then go to wait in the line for the "check in", which consists of a touchscreen kiosk where I am asked to enter my name, and the reason for my visit to the DMV.

    After I do this, the kiosk instructs me to stand back and look at the camera while it snaps my photo, before printing out a receipt with a barcode on it. I'm impressed that they have automated the DL photo process.

    I show the clipboard faggot my completed form (he doesn't take it, he just needs to see that I've fucking filled it out), he gives me a number (B206) and I sit down to wait.

  • 9:50am: The board is showing lots of "A", "C", "D", and "F" numbers being called, but no B group numbers. I notice that only about 60% of the service windows actually have somebody standing at them.

  • 9:55am: The first "B" group number is called (B201). My heart leaps, as I realize I am only 5 numbers away from being called, (maybe).

  • 10:07am: They call B203. 60% of the service windows are still vacant.

  • 10:12am: They call B204 and B205.

  • 10:17am: My number is called, and I go to my service window. There's a nice looking middle aged woman wearing a wrist support there. I've been on the DMV property for an hour and a half at this point. She scans the little bar-code receipt I got from the check-in kiosk.

  • 10:42am: After some kind of issue that required a supervisor to solve, my document verification, form submission is complete. I pay the $40 fee, and I'm happy to discover that out-of-state license holders don't have to pay the full $84 license fee. She takes my old license, my passport, my social security card, and my proof of address documents, so now I can't leave, even if I want to. I'm told to wait to hear my name called so I can take my vision test.

  • 10:54am: My name is called for the vision test, and I go see some asshole who is wearing the same outfit as the "doorman" who made up the bullshit firecode story. All of the women at the DMV wear normal clothes, like dresses and skirts, flower print blouses, etc, but every man seems to be wearing the same "quasi-cop" costume, that consists of a black polo shirt with a DMV logo, black cargo pants, boots, and a fucking utility belt. They also all seem to be sporting the "high and tight" cop haircut. It occurs to me that martinets gonna martinet, and then this new asshole asks me if I wear contacts or glasses to drive (I don't) and has me look inside a vision testing machine.

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  • 10:55am: I'm asked to read one line of text, consisting of 12 characters of 12 point type at a distance of about 14 inches.

    I read the line off, and then ttwo light bulbs start flashing, one to my left, and one to my right. Fuckface asks me where the flashing lights are, and I tell him "on both sides", he says "congratulations! you passed!"

    Total time to take and pass the "vision test": less than 15 seconds.

    I'm told to wait until I hear my name called.

  • 11:00am: I move to the front row of seats, because to woman who is doing the name calling has an impossibly tiny voice, and the room is loud and full of people. I've got some difficulty hearing when there is a lot of background noise, so I need to make sure I can see her.

  • 11:05am: Two big fat girls sit down next to me and start talking to each other in Spanish. I have no idea what they are talking about.

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  • 11:15am: A Polish couple is at the window directly in front of me, struggling with the language barrier. They have a young son, maybe three years old. After about 10 minutes, this little kid lays down and puts his face on the floor and closes his eyes. I realize that this little kid and myself are cut from the same cloth, because all I want to do is just lay down and die.

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  • 11:20am: My name is called, and I go up to the window where a smiling fat woman tells me I need to give her $84 to get my license.

    I explain to her that I was just transferring, and that I already paid the $40 fee, and she tells me tthat money was just for the transfer and that now I need to pay an additional $84 to get my license even though the paperwork for an in-state application and an out-of-state application are exactly the same.

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    I pay her, and then she tells me to step in front of a blue screen to have my picture taken. At this point I realize that my "check-in" kiosk photo had nothing to do with my DL, and everything to do with preventing people from sending someone to the DMV to wait in line for them. If the photo taken at "check-in" doesn't match the photo that comes up when they scan the bar-code receipt, you don't get served. This infuriates me.

  • 11:25am: Some fat fuck in a phony cop uniform takes my picture and then tells me to wait until my name is called. I go sit down

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  • 11:35am: My name is called, fat fuck gives me my license, and without saying a word, I turn around and walk out.

  • 12:05pm: I get back home and look at the picture on my license. I'm not smiling in it.

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Total Cost: $124

Total Wait Time: 2.3 hours

Total Transit Time: 1 hour
 
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While I was sitting at the DMV among the other 100 or so people in the room, I started to wonder why the fuck I was there in the first place.

What exactly does a drivers license do? I can't figure it out.

As far as I can tell, it does absolutely nothing, and I challenge anyone to come up with a good reason for issuing drivers licenses.

Some reasons I won't accept:

Safety/Minimum Skill Assessment/Knowledge Of The Rules Of The Road

This is a bullshit argument, because as my vision test proves, the physical capabilities of new drivers aren't really tested. Hell, they took the word of some state on the other side of the country that I knew how to drive, and didn't require me to demonstrate that I knew anything about the traffic laws here, or that I actually knew how to operate a motor vehicle.

Additionally, even for new drivers, who do have to pass an actual road test, once that test and the written test are passed, the driver can renew their license by MAIL in perpetuity without ever needing to demonstrate their ability again (although, they will have to prove that they aren't Stevie Wonder blind)

The idea that licensing drivers somehow makes the roads safer is bullshit too. There is absolutely nothing stopping someone who doesn't have a license from operating a motor vehicle. Nothing. Licensing drivers does not provide some sort of "herd immunity" from the dangers of shitty operators.

So, if it's not for safety, what the fuck is it for?

I'd like somebody to explain it to me, because I'm pretty sure I just got robbed.
 
epic thread...first

yea DMV sucks, Florida is absolutely no better.

Everyone thinks they are smart by getting up early and waiting outside, but there is always a group of 50+ people who are smarter and came earlier.
 
I've done this. Except insert 75 illegal aliens in the initial waiting line trying to get California ID's or register a vehicle they brought up from Tijuana with their fake driver's licenses they got in L.A. Fun times.

And in regards to the amount of open service windows available at any given time, this is probably the most fucking infuriating part of the entire process. They have 50 windows, 10 of which are open, with 150 people waiting. And the DMV workers just seem to close up shop whenever they feel like it. Coffee break, lunch, whatever. They'll just slap up a closed sign and walk away.
 
Obviously the DMV needs both higher funding and higher fees to do its job properly, it's probably republican austerity that is tearing this country apart. They won't be happy until their corporate masters have every drop of blood from us hard working, 99% citizens.
 
The DMV in Canada is even worse. They make us pay $127 for a sticker every year that we have to put on our license plates. And if we dont pay for that sticker we lose our license. On top of this we have to renew our license every 5 years at additional cost. Oh and parking tickets, unpaid toll road fees and any other fuckery will need to be paid when you update your sticker. Mine ended up costing me $1200+ when it was all said and done due to parking tickets and toll's. The rape is real.
 
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"My Trip To The DMV" or "Get Fucked" by ITE






  • 6am: I wake up and get moving so I can be on the road by 8:00am ( I need to do this because despite the fact that I live less than 3 miles from a DMV office, the closest DMV that handles out-of-state license applications is 30 minutes from where I live.

  • 8am: I leave left house, get cash from an ATM and grab a breakfast sandwich, before driving for approximately 30 minutes

    mcdonalds-Sausage-McMuffin.png


  • 8:45am: I arrive at the DMV office 30 minutes before they opened to find a line of 50 people waiting outside. Stand in line for 30 minutes in the parking lot.

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  • 9:15am: DMV worker comes outside and collects everyone from the line who is there for a driving test (not me, I just need to file some paperwork and pay for my new license), these fortunate sons-of-bitches get to go into some side door, while the rest of us stand on the blacktop in the sun.

  • 9:20am: After rounding up all the road test people, the DMV worker comes out and explains to us that due to fire code restrictions, a limited number of people from the line will be allowed in the building at one time, while the rest of us will have to wait outside until people leave the building. He goes on to say that we should be thankful that it's a sunny day and not raining. My blood begins to boil at this point, when I realize he's actually trying to tell me to be thankful that I am fortunate enough to have my time wasted on a "nice" day.

    liar.jpg


    At this point he opens the doors (5 mins late) and lets about 30 people into the building, leaving 20 of us outside.

  • 9:30am: 3 people leave the building, and the doorman lets 20 more of us inside. At first, I think the fire code has somehow changed in the last 15 minutes, but when I get inside the building, I see that there are easily 60 unoccupied chairs, and that this doorman guy is just a lying piece of shit who gets off on making people stand in a fucking line when there are chairs inside waiting for them.

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    Once I get inside, I look for a document table for the single form I need to fill out. There is no such table, so I get in the information line to get my number.

  • 9:40am: I get up to the information booth where some faggot with a clipboard asks me if I have my documents and forms. I tell him I've got my documents, but that there are no forms, so no, I don't have the form I need. He then gives me the form I need, and tells me to fill it out, and then "check in" at the photobooth.

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  • 9:45am: I fill the form out in under a minute, and then go to wait in the line for the "check in", which consists of a touchscreen kiosk where I am asked to enter my name, and the reason for my visit to the DMV.

    After I do this, the kiosk instructs me to stand back and look at the camera while it snaps my photo, before printing out a receipt with a barcode on it. I'm impressed that they have automated the DL photo process.

    I show the clipboard faggot my completed form (he doesn't take it, he just needs to see that I've fucking filled it out), he gives me a number (B206) and I sit down to wait.

  • 9:50am: The board is showing lots of "A", "C", "D", and "F" numbers being called, but no B group numbers. I notice that only about 60% of the service windows actually have somebody standing at them.

  • 9:55am: The first "B" group number is called (B201). My heart leaps, as I realize I am only 5 numbers away from being called, (maybe).

  • 10:07am: They call B203. 60% of the service windows are still vacant.

  • 10:12am: They call B204 and B205.

  • 10:17am: My number is called, and I go to my service window. There's a nice looking middle aged woman wearing a wrist support there. I've been on the DMV property for an hour and a half at this point. She scans the little bar-code receipt I got from the check-in kiosk.

  • 10:42am: After some kind of issue that required a supervisor to solve, my document verification, form submission is complete. I pay the $40 fee, and I'm happy to discover that out-of-state license holders don't have to pay the full $84 license fee. She takes my old license, my passport, my social security card, and my proof of address documents, so now I can't leave, even if I want to. I'm told to wait to hear my name called so I can take my vision test.

  • 10:54am: My name is called for the vision test, and I go see some asshole who is wearing the same outfit as the "doorman" who made up the bullshit firecode story. All of the women at the DMV wear normal clothes, like dresses and skirts, flower print blouses, etc, but every man seems to be wearing the same "quasi-cop" costume, that consists of a black polo shirt with a DMV logo, black cargo pants, boots, and a fucking utility belt. They also all seem to be sporting the "high and tight" cop haircut. It occurs to me that martinets gonna martinet, and then this new asshole asks me if I wear contacts or glasses to drive (I don't) and has me look inside a vision testing machine.

    images%5Coptical1000.gif


  • 10:55am: I'm asked to read one line of text, consisting of 12 characters of 12 point type at a distance of about 14 inches.

    I read the line off, and then ttwo light bulbs start flashing, one to my left, and one to my right. Fuckface asks me where the flashing lights are, and I tell him "on both sides", he says "congratulations! you passed!"

    Total time to take and pass the "vision test": less than 15 seconds.

    I'm told to wait until I hear my name called.

  • 11:00am: I move to the front row of seats, because to woman who is doing the name calling has an impossibly tiny voice, and the room is loud and full of people. I've got some difficulty hearing when there is a lot of background noise, so I need to make sure I can see her.

  • 11:05am: Two big fat girls sit down next to me and start talking to each other in Spanish. I have no idea what they are talking about.

    behar.too.fat.for.fifteen.hln.640x360.jpg


  • 11:15am: A Polish couple is at the window directly in front of me, struggling with the language barrier. They have a young son, maybe three years old. After about 10 minutes, this little kid lays down and puts his face on the floor and closes his eyes. I realize that this little kid and myself are cut from the same cloth, because all I want to do is just lay down and die.

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  • 11:20am: My name is called, and I go up to the window where a smiling fat woman tells me I need to give her $84 to get my license.

    I explain to her that I was just transferring, and that I already paid the $40 fee, and she tells me tthat money was just for the transfer and that now I need to pay an additional $84 to get my license even though the paperwork for an in-state application and an out-of-state application are exactly the same.

    3po1q3.jpg



    I pay her, and then she tells me to step in front of a blue screen to have my picture taken. At this point I realize that my "check-in" kiosk photo had nothing to do with my DL, and everything to do with preventing people from sending someone to the DMV to wait in line for them. If the photo taken at "check-in" doesn't match the photo that comes up when they scan the bar-code receipt, you don't get served. This infuriates me.

  • 11:25am: Some fat fuck in a phony cop uniform takes my picture and then tells me to wait until my name is called. I go sit down

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  • 11:35am: My name is called, fat fuck gives me my license, and without saying a word, I turn around and walk out.

  • 12:05pm: I get back home and look at the picture on my license. I'm not smiling in it.

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Total Cost: $124

Total Wait Time: 2.3 hours

Total Transit Time: 1 hour

2.3 hours...not bad, I suppose.

My brother called me the other day, he had been waiting for 4 hrs, got some lunch, and still waited another 3.5 hours! They have a text system, so he was able to leave, still a huge pain. A waste of an entire day.

Luckily I've never experienced these long waits. The largest city I've ever lived in was 150,000 and there the wait was about 20 minutes, sometimes less. The town I live in now is about 20,000 and the wait is usually 10 minutes.
 
The DMV in Canada is even worse. They make us pay $127 for a sticker every year that we have to put on our license plates. And if we dont pay for that sticker we lose our license. On top of this we have to renew our license every 5 years at additional cost. Oh and parking tickets, unpaid toll road fees and any other fuckery will need to be paid when you update your sticker. Mine ended up costing me $1200+ when it was all said and done due to parking tickets and toll's. The rape is real.

That's nothing. The yearly vehicle registration fees in California are one of, if not THE highest in the U.S. I have a 2007 Dodge Ram 1500 that I just paid $233 to register. Plus I had to get a smog cert done (because it's over 5 years old), that was another $68 bucks. My 2011 Nissan Armada registration is like $365 / year. The fee goes down each year, so you can imagine what the registration fees were when both vehicles were new. It's just stupid.
 
The DMV in Canada is even worse. They make us pay $127 for a sticker every year that we have to put on our license plates. And if we dont pay for that sticker we lose our license. On top of this we have to renew our license every 5 years at additional cost. Oh and parking tickets, unpaid toll road fees and any other fuckery will need to be paid when you update your sticker. Mine ended up costing me $1200+ when it was all said and done due to parking tickets and toll's. The rape is real.

Nah that's not worse. That sticker for me cost a lot more than $127. When I renew its more like $7,000-$10,000 because they charge property tax on every vehicle I own. (9) Oh, don't forget a $900 "Luxury Tax" for each car.

Every house you build here has an "impact fee". It's a flat $10,000 and goes to "maintain" the roads. We have some of the shitty roads in the countries. Pot holes all over.
 
2.3 hours...not bad, I suppose.

My brother called me the other day, he had been waiting for 4 hrs, got some lunch, and still waited another 3.5 hours! They have a text system, so he was able to leave, still a huge pain. A waste of an entire day.

Luckily I've never experienced these long waits. The largest city I've ever lived in was 150,000 and there the wait was about 20 minutes, sometimes less. The town I live in now is about 20,000 and the wait is usually 10 minutes.


You quoted that WHOLE post to say these measley words that I'm not even going to read because you quoted the whole post to say it? Have some decency, man!
 
So, I thought I'd see what the penalties were for just not having a license...

Since, after today, I don't ever want to deal with this insulting bullshit again, and if it I can get away with paying some fines when I get caught, I'll probably wind up ahead anyway...




Turns out, that the penalties for driving around without a license are worse than the penalties for killing someone with your car.

seems legit.

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Oddly enough I went to the DMV today too. Had to renew my dl and renew tags for my car.

Woke up around 11am.
Had a couple cups of tea, played some vidya, checked e-mail, WF, etc.
Left the house around 1:30pm.
Got stuck at a train crossing, finally got to the DMV about 2:15pm.
Stood in line about 25 minutes.
Another 10 minutes and $80.25 to do my business.
Back home a little after 3pm.
Posting here now.

Smaller city Ohio DMVs aren't too bad and usually aren't too crowded. I'm guessing the DMV you went to was in a larger city.
 
TL;DR. We have the greatest DMV ever, and I love rubbing that shit in peoples face.
 
I'm guessing the DMV you went to was in a larger city.

No.

The branch I went to is located in a city with a population of about 20k.

My entire state only has 3.6 million people, and our largest city has a little over 150k people.

This state has attempted to "speed things up" by only offering certain services at certain branches on certain days.

The result is, predictably, utter chaos and bullshit.


While I was looking around at the 100 or so people waiting to fill out meaningless paperwork, I started wondering about the cost of the DMV.

Not the cost to operate the DMV, that's easy enough to figure out.

I'm talking about what the lost productivity of the hundreds of thousands of people who have to wait in line at the DMV every year adds up to. My guess is that if you could measure that figure, the dollar amount would be horrifying. More thievery.
 
What exactly does a drivers license do?

It is currently the most effective way to control the populace in cities. Once a record is created, the individual for whom it is done so is likely to maintain it. It can be attached to warrants, fines, jury summons (and fines for no-shows), state taxes, and school loans. In the future, it might be attached to fed taxes, voting record, and general migration.

You can live without a credit card. You can live without a credit score. And you can even live without a social security number. It is much more difficult to live without the ability to drive.

Once we stop driving and start flying our Jetson-mobiles, we'll need flyers licenses.

And now a tangent...

The requirement of a license to drive is not in itself a bad thing. If you owned a major street and needed to track revenue and identify malcontents, you might require those driving on your street to present their "passes." No pass, no passage.

But of course, assuming other travel options existed, you be motivated to keep your customers happy. As you know, the DMV does not share the same incentive (or doesn't share it to the same extent).
 
I'd like somebody to explain it to me, because I'm pretty sure I just got robbed.
Would you like me to explain to you that you have a common law "right" to free travel on the roads, and that if you read your State Motor Vehicle Act closely enough, you may find there is absolutely no statute requiring you to have a driver's license?

And then if I could do that, and you found it credible, how sick would you feel in your stomach to know that millions of people go through the charade of getting something they don't need because they believe they need it, even though there is absolutely no proof of such?

Even atheists who don't even believe in God without proof get driver's licenses!

And then, would you start to retreat from what is clearly an insane world and come on Wickedfire, and find the entertainment so bad, that the most entertaining thing you can do is reform your character into a nice guy because that's the highest form of novelty left to us?

Just wonderin' ...