How Hydra Affiliate Network Screwed Me Out Of $25,000

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I think people were more critical of their lack of any significant response than of the situation itself.
At least that's my problem with it. Regardless of anything else/the outcome - even if they're right, it's a horrible way to handle problems and I don't see any way for them to salvage respect here. Not from me anyways.

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Its great Hydra decided to at least explain their side. But this must suck for Jon. Its just extra work, with no extra pay.

Thanks for lookin out Jon! :) Im sure both sides appreciate what you're doing.
 
Hydra - Now that we've waited 30+ days and it's not going away, we better try to do something about it...

I think it probably has something to do with the thread ranking on page 1 for Hydra Affiliate Network within hours of being moved to shooting the shit.
 
I think it probably has something to do with the thread ranking on page 1 for Hydra Affiliate Network within hours of being moved to shooting the shit.

Probably, but eventually someone was going to get caught in the crossfire if this didn't get resolved. Me thinks that if it took 30 days to get to this point Hydra got caught with with their pants down.
 
I think people were more critical of their lack of any significant response than of the situation itself.
At least that's my problem with it. Regardless of anything else/the outcome - even if they're right, it's a horrible way to handle problems and I don't see any way for them to salvage respect here. Not from me anyways.

I don't think anyone is doubting you on this, me especially. I told a contact at Hydra the day the thread was created "you should go to Wickedfire and make a quick response to the thread one of your affiliates made about you before it gets out of hand" -- Their response: "Its not our company's policy to respond on an open forum, etc.." -- Foolish of them or any network that just thinks shit like this magically disappears (although sometimes it does) on its own without a response from the network. But alas, that's not our fight, if you guys lost faith in them because they waited too long to respond, so be it, I don't blame ya. If that means you need to make a new thread bashing the shit out of them, that's your choice, but I personally believe that they've suffered just about enough. I really believe they've learned their lesson from this, lost what seems like a lot of potential revenue because they didn't respond when they should have, and hopefully this never happens to them again and they'll continue to work on rebuilding trust with some of you more jaded guys.

Now as for the affiliate and the whole story, I'm only like halfway through these enormous email logs, but from what it looks like, the affiliate DID in fact violate Hydra's Terms of Service with this campaign and wasn't very honest afterall, shocker. Not to mention the affiliate still hasn't answered any of my requests to hear his side of the story, even though I know he read the message I sent to him (read confirmed). Since I'm not done reading through this mess, I'm not going to make any recommendations.

Overall, I know some of you guys like to have fun with companies, networks, people or whoever really and have WickedFire rank for their names, but remember you also need to take responsibility for what you say or do here. Again, I really think Hydra learned their lesson and there shouldn't be anymore actions taken against them because there's a very thin line between where we're at now and going too far. Its not like they killed your parents or poked fun at any of you anyway, so they fucked up and didn't respond, big woop. All I'm saying is let's not go overboard with this for no other reason other than pure boredom.

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i bet it was pure boredom at the very first few posts, after 30+ days, its began to turned into something else. wickedfire is special in this industry but obviously not for them when they first respond this

I told a contact at Hydra the day the thread was created "you should go to Wickedfire and make a quick response to the thread one of your affiliates made about you before it gets out of hand" -- Their response: "Its not our company's policy to respond on an open forum, etc.."


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the affiliates are the base to the network, without us it just doesn't work. It does matter if an affiliate gets ripped off. At the same time it also matters if someone tries to ripoff a network. Thats why theres the TOS. I'm gonna consider this a closed case.
 
Jon,
I never received any PM's from you. I would surely respond.
As far as violating Hydras TOS. They are protected in every possible way in there. My landing page was based on grocery coupons and they were sent to a page that offered free household samples. They consider that violating their TOS.
 
My landing page was based on grocery coupons and they were sent to a page that offered free household samples. They consider that violating their TOS and i'm sure technically, that is in violation.

Wait a second. You told us in your initial post that you ran this offer for awhile, and you kept in constant constant with your Hydra AM to make sure everything was cool. I think we all assumed by this comment your AM had seen your LP and approved it. Is this not the case?

As far as I can see, if your AM approved your LP, and you made NO changes to it during the course of your campaign, Hydra is in the wrong, since you had asked them "hey, is this ok?"

Fill in the blanks here, based on what the Admin just said you're not telling the whole story, or else left out some important points.
 
I was in daily contact with my AM. I was sending them this traffic quite some time and I was on weeklies. They knew exactly my traffic source and my landing page. The LP I gave them when I signed up with them was the LP I used the whole time I was sending traffic to them. The only reason they have a problem is because the advertiser decided they dont want to pay.
 
If that's the truth then I wonder if this just isn't a case where the AM didnt really give the site a good look, or didn't himself/herself really understand the Advertiser's guidelines, and screwed up, everybody there knows it, but they're not willing to pay $25K for it.

So now the debate would be moved to "What do you when your own Aff Network approved something that their Advertiser never would have approved"
 
This is the quality health LP off Azoogle (not off hydra) but yeah...coupons doesn't seem like an unreasonable way to promote this.
"Free Spring Slim Down Samples"?
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Jon is mediating this issue and we are looking to come to a resolution.
Hopefully we can work out something that is reasonable for both parties.
 
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