How Hydra Affiliate Network Screwed Me Out Of $25,000

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I'd just like to know who is the best and most trustable affiliate network out there? they all seem shady to me...
 


Anyone want to speculate how much this thread has cost Hydra so far? I bet I'm not the only one who moved offers as a result....
 
Just out of curiosity who was the advertiser again? Was it the advertiser who told Hydra they wouldnt pay because the leads were poor? I totally agree Hydra should have paid regardless but where is the advertiser in all this? Somebody post what the offer is/was and who was behind it as I think they need to be blamed as well.
 
Roundabout said:
Just out of curiosity who was the advertiser again? Was it the advertiser who told Hydra they wouldnt pay because the leads were poor? I totally agree Hydra should have paid regardless but where is the advertiser in all this? Somebody post what the offer is/was and who was behind it as I think they need to be blamed as well.
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I was promoting a "Quality Health" offer for Free Spring Samples.
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Im running 0% with Hydra now since all this not willing to take the risk especially since they arent willing to make a valid point. This post proves that they don't give a fuck and i want the networks i work with to go out and be active to keep there good name. Not to hype another network but if this happened with copeac,ads4,or convert2 they would be on in a flash explaining and answering. Not hiding or giving a can answer. That is how you run a business with affiliates.
 
MaxSteve said:
Hey TAG, I think that's an overly cynical way at looking at networks, and business in general. Not all businesses are run with a "fuck everyone as long as I make a buck" mentality. While I agree that there are some businesses that run things that way, I have always believed that running that way is extremely short sighted and will ultimately lead to the failure of your business. And I'm not some clueless newbie to this business either. I've been working the internet probably just as long as you.

Affiliates are not "a means to an end" for properly run networks. They are our customers. As a business, if you shit on your customers often enough, you'll lose them. This is especially important as a CPA network because there are hundreds of competing networks around and there are more starting up every week. What separates a network from others when so many offer the same campaigns at the same rates? Strong relationships. And you aren't going to build strong relationships by regularly fucking over your customers - your affiliates.

Some people have expressed that the only real function of a network is to float payments for affiliates. That's not really true. Networks are in the business of relationship management. That's our real function. We manage the relationships that affiliates and merchants are either unwilling or unable to manage themselves. As a network, we cannot succeed if we regularly undermine, screw over, ignore or take for granted these relationships.

Strike that. We cannot succeed IN THE LONG RUN if we do these things. This industry is littered with the carcasses of failed networks who did not realize this. Some of them shot up and burned bright for a while, but ultimately they fell just as fast (or will soon) once they fucked over enough people.

And with all due respect, I do not believe experience in the adult industry carries over very well into mainstream internet marketing. The choices available to adult affiliates is not the same as the choices available to mainstream affiliates.
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Excellent post Steve, I think I'm going to send you guys a little more traffic tonight than I normally do :)
 
I have been using Hydra for a few weeks, and have been very happy with my AM who is Brandon Budd. I will touch base with him and see if all is ok with account. Sorry about your situation.....that is tough.
 
Like I said, I'm new to CPA, so I am not a guru. But I just called Bandon at Hydra and asked if my traffic was ok and would I get paid. He said my traffic looks good, and if there is a quality issue, then the advertiser would tell Brandon who would call me and tell me to move to another campaign, but I would get paid for it. I would only NOT get paid if there is some kind of fraud going on. Now, I know this 'company line' stuff. But hey I will give Brandon and Hydra the benefit of doubt until something goes REALLY south. :music06: rock on people.
 
highroller said:
Like I said, I'm new to CPA, so I am not a guru. But I just called Bandon at Hydra and asked if my traffic was ok and would I get paid. He said my traffic looks good, and if there is a quality issue, then the advertiser would tell Brandon who would call me and tell me to move to another campaign, but I would get paid for it. I would only NOT get paid if there is some kind of fraud going on. Now, I know this 'company line' stuff. But hey I will give Brandon and Hydra the benefit of doubt until something goes REALLY south. :music06: rock on people.
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You have 2 posts in this forum. And they are both about how great hydra is servicing you. Smells fishy to me. Until Hydra actually steps up understand WF isnt just some b.s. forum and actually take this serious and answer questions its a no go
 
highroller said:
I have been using Hydra for a few weeks, and have been very happy with my AM who is Brandon Budd. I will touch base with him and see if all is ok with account. Sorry about your situation.....that is tough.
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Brandon is a great AM.

sucks he works for a shit company
 
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