Fuck Zombies - Just got my bath salt head poppa' in the mail =P
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OP is -1, op has been on Vicodins for the last two days from getting deviated septum and turbinates reduced. He is unhappy how shitty his nose feels, but he is also happy that his viridian laser came in. But then again, this makes him unhappy because he wants to shoot it and he cannot.
He thinks maybe shooting you will make him feel better, wanna come break in my house?? I'll put a purple dildo on the floor....its all yours if you can get to it :2gunsfiring_v1:
9mm might as well be .22LR
Get a real gun bro! XDM 3.8 Compact in .45
You've been sold, son. Statistically, the only thing difference between a 9mm a .40 and a .45 is price.
An Alternate Look at Handgun Stopping Power
Ironically for this thread though, a .22 statistically stops more people with one shot than a 9mm, a .40 or a .45 lol
.25ACP
# of people shot - 68
# of hits - 150
% of hits that were fatal - 25%
Average number of rounds until incapacitation - 2.2
% of people who were not incapacitated - 35%
One-shot-stop % - 30%
Accuracy (head and torso hits) - 62%
% actually incapacitated by one shot (torso or head hit) - 49%
.22 (short, long and long rifle)
# of people shot - 154
# of hits - 213
% of hits that were fatal - 34%
Average number of rounds until incapacitation - 1.38
% of people who were not incapacitated - 31%
One-shot-stop % - 31%
Accuracy (head and torso hits) - 76%
% actually incapacitated by one shot (torso or head hit) - 60%
.32 (both .32 Long and .32 ACP)
# of people shot - 25
# of hits - 38
% of hits that were fatal - 21%
Average number of rounds until incapacitation - 1.52
% of people who were not incapacitated - 40%
One-shot-stop % - 40%
Accuracy (head and torso hits) - 78%
% actually incapacitated by one shot (torso or head hit) - 72%
.380 ACP
# of people shot - 85
# of hits - 150
% of hits that were fatal - 29%
Average number of rounds until incapacitation - 1.76
% of people who were not incapacitated - 16%
One-shot-stop % - 44%
Accuracy (head and torso hits) - 76%
% actually incapacitated by one shot (torso or head hit) - 62%
.38 Special
# of people shot - 199
# of hits - 373
% of hits that were fatal - 29%
Average number of rounds until incapacitation - 1.87
% of people who were not incapacitated - 17%
One-shot-stop % - 39%
Accuracy (head and torso hits) - 76%
% actually incapacitated by one shot (torso or head hit) - 55%
9mm Luger
# of people shot - 456
# of hits - 1121
% of hits that were fatal - 24%
Average number of rounds until incapacitation - 2.45
% of people who were not incapacitated - 13%
One-shot-stop % - 34%
Accuracy (head and torso hits) - 74%
% actually incapacitated by one shot (torso or head hit) - 47%
.357 (both magnum and Sig)
# of people shot - 105
# of hits - 179
% of hits that were fatal - 34%
Average number of rounds until incapacitation - 1.7
% of people who were not incapacitated - 9%
One-shot-stop % - 44%
Accuracy (head and torso hits) - 81%
% actually incapacitated by one shot (torso or head hit) - 61%
.40 S&W
# of people shot - 188
# of hits - 443
% of hits that were fatal - 25%
Average number of rounds until incapacitation - 2.36
% of people who were not incapacitated - 13%
One-shot-stop % - 45%
Accuracy (head and torso hits) - 76%
% actually incapacitated by one shot (torso or head hit) - 52%
.45 ACP
# of people shot - 209
# of hits - 436
% of hits that were fatal - 29%
Average number of rounds until incapacitation - 2.08
% of people who were not incapacitated - 14%
One-shot-stop % - 39%
Accuracy (head and torso hits) - 85%
% actually incapacitated by one shot (torso or head hit) - 51%
.44 Magnum
# of people shot - 24
# of hits - 41
% of hits that were fatal - 26%
Average number of rounds until incapacitation - 1.71
% of people who were not incapacitated - 13%
One-shot-stop % - 59%
Accuracy (head and torso hits) - 88%
% actually incapacitated by one shot (torso or head hit) - 53%
Rifle (all Centerfire)
# of people shot - 126
# of hits - 176
% of hits that were fatal - 68%
Average number of rounds until incapacitation - 1.4
% of people who were not incapacitated - 9%
One-shot-stop % - 58%
Accuracy (head and torso hits) - 81%
% actually incapacitated by one shot (torso or head hit) - 80%
Shotgun (All, but 90% of results were 12 gauge)
# of people shot - 146
# of hits - 178
% of hits that were fatal - 65%
Average number of rounds until incapacitation - 1.22
% of people who were not incapacitated - 12%
One-shot-stop % - 58%
Accuracy (head and torso hits) - 84%
% actually incapacitated by one shot (torso or head hit) - 86%
And that's why I keep a 12 gauge in the bedroom! :2gunsfiring_v1: :costumed-smiley-013
In Canada we have a lame 5 shot limit on clips for anything above .22 caliber.
I was browsing wanstalls and here's a rifle that's non-restricted and has a 10 shot clip.
Anyone know of any other guns like this? Or, does anyone have this one and can recommend it?
I was browsing wanstalls and here's a rifle that's non-restricted and has a 10 shot clip.
Anyone know of any other guns like this? Or, does anyone have this one and can recommend it?
i cant believe the OP fucking fell for the Ly2 de-rail. WTF
BTW, I own a .25 and I know that the gun posted by OP is for sure a fucking .22. Also green lasers are weak, should have got the blue.
Dont come steppin in my hood, you'll get capped by a real gun bitch:
How do we know that you're not a giant?
1. There isn't a light saber blazing from my barrel to the target.
2. If I can get an intruder out of my house, without firing shots because he sees that I am armed, and is scared off from seeing the laser. I call that a plus.
3. in a dark house, I wan't to be able to see. Having a laser show me where I'm putting bullets, instead of hoping I'm aiming in the dark correctly is a plus. Especially when you aid adrenaline and fear. I have kids in my house, I can't risk shooting around and letting bullets flying through walls. I need to make sure bullets go where I intend them, and anything that helps that..is a plus.
4. When someone shines a giant laser at your face, you can't look at them; i.e. aim at them. When someone shines a giant laser at your face, with a high illuminated strobe light, you can't look in their direction or figure out where they are.
5. Lasers are good for accuracy training, when trying to watch you're recoil.
6. The laser can be triggered anytime you want it, its not automatically on. I can turn the laser on and off with my support hand finger. I can also switch on or off the tactical light. So if I wan't to "sneak around the house" I can, and then turn it on when I need it.
Cool study. I wish he could have found a large sample size... but... like he says - "Do your own study if you don't like it"
Plus i would have liked to have seen what all his sources were ... but whatever. It's hardly an authoritative study but it is good to show that have to shoot people about twice to incapacitate them.
I personally don't drink the koolaid (too much) either way. I just like .45 because I like 1911's and so for ammo consolidation i buy in .45
If you carry a 9mm it isn't much more of a hassle to carry .45 .... so i do.
For pocket carry i have a little Kel-tec P-3AT in .380... and according to your stats it performs a good bit better than 9mm... which i find hard to believe.
(For size it is sitting on the back of an iPad.)
Thats my point, you're gonna have to shoot someone twice probably and 9mm usually have less recoil and you can fire off two shots faster. They also have cheaper ammo, so more practice, for less cost. And you can hold more rounds. I have 17 round clips plus one in the chamber.
Yeah, I'm getting a kimber 1911 in the .45 nothing wrong with .45 but I don't subscribe to the "only .45 are man stoppers".
=)For pocket carry i have a little Kel-tec P-3AT in .380... and according to your stats it performs a good bit better than 9mm... which i find hard to believe.
(For size it is sitting on the back of an iPad.)
You can keep it in your back pocket, feels like a wallet. The best part, is that you can pull out the holster and fire without removing from your holster. =)
Nice post. Some surprising numbers in there, although some of the sample sizes are pretty small.
honestly, i feel all this talk about 9mm, .45, .380, etc is the same as "which lang is better: Ruby, Python, Go, Php"
its all BS. use what you have and know how to use it. I know plenty of people that would stop and drop if hit by 2-3 .25 caliber shots. You can't tell me if your hit by 2 or 3 of these, your not gonna stop in your tracks because of the fact you just got shot, regardless of caliber.
Considering my clip holds even more, 2-3 is a min.
its all BS. use what you have and know how to use it. I know plenty of people that would stop and drop if hit by 2-3 .25 caliber shots. You can't tell me if your hit by 2 or 3 of these, your not gonna stop in your tracks because of the fact you just got shot, regardless of caliber.
Considering my clip holds even more, 2-3 is a min.
Its not an enormous sample size, but the sample size shows a pretty standard consistency.
Pretty much agreed. Hell, I got a pellet gun that can literally split a penny in half that I'm pretty sure you wouldn't want to get hit with. In fact, there is a video of a guy killing a 250lbs hog with it.
My pellet gun that shoots 1275 feet per second
A video of a guy killing a 250lbs hog with it
Hog Hunting with Gamo Hunter Extreme Air Rifle - YouTube
