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Im a proud owner of a spot within this directory and find it to be extremely valuable. Ranks above the fold for my brand and I can tell that Grills has put a lot of time and energy into this project.

Best 97$ I ever spent for this site (srs)
 


You say it's not even 25% done. What's the final plan.
We're going to add reviews, image imbeds, logo uploads. Key Employee data, more outbound links to related resources (like say, stock ticker) and RSS embedding (hello Ecomm, we want your new products feed).

I have a list about a mile long of that sort of stuff. That's why what you see now, while better than any other web directory (again, because we built this CMS from scratch) is only a drop in the bucket.

Then of course, we have to keep developing our authority and traffic. We have to find better ways to categorize sites based on relevant kw and topic.

There is a lot of work to be done there.

That said, I try not to talk before I walk. I am posting about the momentum of development so that people understand, this isn't something I cooked up to sell on forum BSTs or doesn't have ambition. On the contrary, this is one of the last places I was going to list it, but Grindstone twisted my arm for 3 months to get me to do it.

It's also why you haven't seen me chatting this up the last 3 or 4 months. When I have something to show you, I will talk about it. Talking about what you're going to do someday is a lousy sales tactic IMO.

The $97 seems a lot less like an acceptance fee and a lot more like an initial investment.
Any business with a long term horizon puts revenue back into development. With this, 80% of the revenue goes back to development and 20% towards costs.

By getting a lifetime profile NOW, you are making an investment in how we're going to improve the site and the value of your profile going forward.

I don't want to sell you on my rep, and I don't want to sell you on some future dream which may or may not happen.

What we have today is a great directory, which is getting substantively better each week. That's what this thread is about.

I'd be curious to know what we're investing in other than a strict web directory. Where is this thing going in your mind?
Every directory which aspires to be good, has to aspire to at the least, be a vertical search engine, like business.com or BBB, or Manta.

My ambitions are similar to this.





Signed up.
Thank you very much. Really nice site.





hi guerilla. i have a question about the directory name. Why do you have the word SEO in it?

It's not a criticism it's just that I tend to work on real world business sites and lately most of the business owners run a mile from anything with the word SEO in it. Lately I find SEO is becoming a "bad" word amongst business owners due to erratic results etc

would be interested to know why you picked that name as i was thinking that something with a more generic name might have wider appeal
It's an aged domain I bought from a friend here on WF. It used to be a site for an IPB (forum) plugin.

I didn't think it would be possible to build this with a brand new domain, and get submissions without authority or traffic on day 1.

If we were VC funded, we could get tons of tweets, and coverage on Techcrunch etc, and we could have picked any name, like domain.ly or site.me or whatever. but that's not the world I am living in right now.

That said, phase 2 of this project (we're only at the beginnning of phase 1) is a rebrand. I haven't done a rebrand yet because to do it right is expensive, and I am putting all of the resources into development right now.

The truth is, 99.9% of the population has no idea what SEO is. I am guessing less than 10% of business owners at large do, and of those doing business online, it's probably only as high as maybe 25%.

SEOs like to be paranoid about everything. If you got a link from SeoMoz or Seobook to your site, would you ask them to remove it?

Also, any site can link to you, from any name. I could add your sites to my directory even if you don't submit them.

Worrying about three characters in a domain name seems to me at least, to be a small concern. We're doing everything we can by the book (Google's General Guidelines manual) as best as possible. We're not selling links, we're selling the opportunity to brand your business on our website, just like any other high end authority directory.

Does getting a link from us help you? I think enough people have commented on a ranking bump to me publicly and privately that I can say yes. But again, we're not a link directory. If that's the only reason you're listing with us, I can't stop you, but all of my focus is continuing to add value to your overall online presence, which in turn is going to lead to more and better business opportunities for you.

by the way the site looks very nice and I will most likely try to sign up some sites. hope i will be accepted.
Thanks for the kind words. I will be happy to look at your sites.



Have used this for one site so far, and i think to call it a directory submission in the traditional Wickedfire buy and sell forum sense, is selling it a bit short.
This is true. I am not here to appeal to people who buy 1000 directory submits for $9.



Im a proud owner of a spot within this directory and find it to be extremely valuable. Ranks above the fold for my brand and I can tell that Grills has put a lot of time and energy into this project.
You were the first!
 
So I'm guessing we make account, submit domain and if they get approved, then we pay submission fee?

edit: some fast approvals, the answer for my question above is yes :)
 
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Nice directory. I can vouch for the fact that Google loves links that come from legit directories with a real editorial process and goodies like a "non stock" platform/template, rich profiles, etc.

Submitted two of my sites...
 
edit: some fast approvals, the answer for my question above is yes :)
I get almost instant email notification when someone signs up. We're still putting in some other parts of the email system.

Nice directory. I can vouch for the fact that Google loves links that come from legit directories with a real editorial process and goodies like a "non stock" platform/template, rich profiles, etc.

Submitted two of my sites...
Thank you. Both are ready to go.
 
Anand got me involved with CommSEO in the very earlier phases of its development. Right when it had begun to burgeon. I pointed out a few bugs and was astonished to see the astronomical speed at which he set to work at them.

Considering our colossal Skype sessions, I can safely tell you Anand is crazily passionate about this project. He is obsessed. And I like it when a man is fanatical about his work. He calls this his "baby" and means it.

Considering the fact that he has built this from scratch - the entire code working behind this is 100% proprietary - he already has an added edge in "User experiences" & Anand is working his ass off developing this baby. Not to forget, the simple, yet beautiful design (Amazing work Fatbat!) is a thing worth another mention.

My profile page is already on the first page in SERPs for my Brand-name and appears to be propelling in quite a bit of linkjuice my way.

As far as the price is concerned, for the gears in the pipeline with guerilla - $97 is a friggin’ steal. One thing though, he's very picky about the site quality and only accepts those that he deems are efficient for the directory.

Love what has ensued so far. This is major stuff right here. More submissions are en-route.
 
I jumped on as soon as this opened up. I won't repeat what has already been said. If you are not sold by what has been said. Well, what sold me most, was knowing that "Guerilla/Anand" was behind this. Why? Because once you've been on WF for awhile, you get to know the characters on here, and this guy is Super Serious. What does this mean for you? It means jump on this guys bandwagon and ride along his drive to succeed.
 
Wow I really like the look of the site. Very clean and well thought out.

I'm also stoked to see that my latest project, which is also in it's infancy, got accepted. Thanks for that. And I look forward to watching the site grow in coming months.
 
A note about CommunitySEO:

We built our website completely from scratch, and now have more than 10,000 lines of code powering the backend of CommunitySEO. While there is always more stuff to improve and work on, we've enlisted dozens of people to help us go over the site, notice weaknesses, and create more value in the listings.

And we're not even close to being done as far as I am concerned. I have a vision for this website and at this time, I would say we're less than 25% of the way there. Even today, development is ongoing to make improvements and to add features.

There is nothing I am willing to overlook. Our onpage, our microformats, our page speed, everything is on the table. It's not good enough for me to build a directory, it has to be the best directory anyone has ever seen when we're "done".

By listing now, you're getting the best of what I have to offer. This is my only project. I work on it every day, 7 days a week.

congrats on your launch, glad to see it.
 
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I had to turn a couple people down with obvious landers or thin affiliate blogs, but its great to see so many cool domains (particularly ecomm) submitting.

Seconded on the fast approvals. Slowest part of the process was a paypal issue on my end (address conflict after a recent move).
Thanks!

Considering our colossal Skype sessions, I can safely tell you Anand is crazily passionate about this project. He is obsessed. And I like it when a man is fanatical about his work. He calls this his "baby" and means it.
I've had a few people tell me I am "very passionate" about this. Every single day, I am working on ways to improve and grow it.

My profile page is already on the first page in SERPs for my Brand-name and appears to be propelling in quite a bit of linkjuice my way.
Wait until next week. :)

I jumped on as soon as this opened up.
Thank you.

Wow I really like the look of the site. Very clean and well thought out.
Thanks. We're shooting for very clean and yes, a ton of thought is going into the layout. It's not easy to layout data that is different column widths, and of different lengths, and in different sequences on the same page.

We're using a jquery plugin called masonry which is similar to what tumbleblogs and pinterest use to layout tiles.

I saw you talking about this on Skype and building it for months, so... I'm in. Just submitted a site.
Already paid and approved. Gracias.

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This *should* be fixed up now, although we have a bunch of submits that haven't been paid yet, so maybe those folks are having problems.

Thanks for your patience.
 
Just set up my listing page. The dashboard is sweet.

I can funnel alot of link juice from my listing page to all my social profiles plus key pages on my site. I have a feeling this listing page will rank for my main keyword before my homepage does. Once everything settles down, I should be able to secure 2 listings on the first page of Google for my main keyword. Sweet :)
 
Added a site two days ago and the listing is already ranking on the first page for my brand, just above Facebook. Mentioned a bug to guerilla and it was fixed within a few hours.

There's no doubt in my mind that this is already one of the best links you can get for $97.
 
The fact is this is the only WF BST services I've trusted with my money site without a second thought. There are only 3 directories on the whole internet that directly link to my money site, this is one of them, I own another, and Yahoo Directories is the 3rd.

Forget the SEO benefits of paying $97 to be on a PR 5 website, FOR LIFE. Look at the reputation management aspect of having your brand's offsite central location be among the top and few great websites on the internet. In ORM (Online Reputation Management), it is key to control the first page of your results. With CommunitySEO, you not only control it, you can help spread links to other social properties that will ensure you control the first page of your brand's name, and sets the foundation for controlling pages 2, 3, and so on. It's one thing when your main site is linking to all of your social properties, it's another when ANOTHER high PR5 website is allowing you to do essentially the same thing. This will solidify your overall foundation of what is seen on the first page for your brand if done correctly.

I've been privy to brainstorm with Guerilla back and forth for the last several weeks on the end game, and let's just say he's got a real game changing project here. I would easily give up everything I'm working on to simply be apart of the end game of what this project is going to develop into. Hint… get your local clients in here NOW!

$97 is a steal to be grandfathered into a a platform with this many top members contributing and helping Guerilla. (I'm a bit shocked myself as to how many top people have been helping in the background, but fuck, it's Guerilla).
 
Two questions:

You mentioned traffic - how much traffic is the site currently getting and how much of that traffic is actually clicking through to one of the listings (not asking for specifics - a range is fine).

Do you think you're going to run into issues with paid linking from google's perspective? To begin with you mentioned "the fee is primarily for the time/effort for someone to do a genuine evaluation of a url or site" but in the comments it looks like this evaluation is being done BEFORE money is paid and then money is being exchanged when the link passes.

I'll likely be ordering regardless, just interested to hear the answers.
 
Two questions:

You mentioned traffic - how much traffic is the site currently getting and how much of that traffic is actually clicking through to one of the listings (not asking for specifics - a range is fine).
The average search visitor is hitting around 4 pages per visit. We're getting just under 200 visits a day.

I'll be the first to admit, traffic isn't our strong suit right now. It's also not my focus for at least another two months, but I know that traffic is going to be very important. It just requires a lot of other things to be in place first, including, a substantial number of listings.

Obviously, once we can start originating traffic (not just arbitraging the serps), the value of this directory will increase exponentially.

Do you think you're going to run into issues with paid linking from google's perspective?
No, I don't. I have done as much research on this as I could, and I think we're doing it right. This isn't a link farm. We're building one of the most feature rich and exclusive business directories online. I say business directory, because while we'll take a submit from any niche, and will include sites at our own discretion, if you're not actually making any revenue then it's unlikely you will go to the trouble to promote yourself this way.

To begin with you mentioned "the fee is primarily for the time/effort for someone to do a genuine evaluation of a url or site" but in the comments it looks like this evaluation is being done BEFORE money is paid and then money is being exchanged when the link passes.
I can't stress enough, this is not a link directory and you are not buying a link when you submit to us. First, that's a no-no with Google. Second, a link directory has ZERO value to visitors, and that is the opposite of what I am trying to build here. There is very little money or upside in links. There is massive upside in being able to drive traffic and help businesses market. I am interested in the latter.

That said, yeah, I am sure a link from us is very powerful and can help your website. And as I said, I can't stop people from buying this "for the link". I have to however be explicit. This is not a link directory. I want people to complete their addresses, embed media, add rich bios, and partake in the other stuff we're working on to create a 3rd party verified birds eye view of their businesses' online presence and purpose.

As far as charging afterwards:

One, I think it's the ethical way to do it. Best of the Web claims to keep the fee whether you get in or not. Sounds like chargebacks and processor drama to me. That doesn't make anyone happy.

Two, it's basic economics that the total labor time to check all of the entries, is paid for by the number that get in. As soon as we find too many junk entries coming in, we will look at changes to handle that.

There is also an element here some people might not be considering.

I haven't seen every website, or compared 1000s of websites to our guidelines yet. So most of the sites I reject, are part of the "defining quality" process. As I see more sites that don't fit our guidelines or vision, a standard for interpreting what quality is, starts to emerge.

Thus far, I have rejected about 15% of the entries from WF. That's not bad considering the most bad websites will probably be found here, and at DP, BHW, and that we did a good job in the OP and thread title stressing that this is not a "garbage in" offering.

I'll likely be ordering regardless, just interested to hear the answers.
Looking forward to it. Pricing changes Dec 1 jsyk.
 
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