Ethics of Poisoning My Neighbor's Dog
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Tough situation OP, I feel for you being a light sleeper myself.
My parents had a dog with a similar barking problem a few years back. They got it one of those bark control collars and the problem was corrected within a week.
At least get you neighbor one of these first before you kill the thing.
[ame=http://www.amazon.com/SportDOG-Rechargeable-NoBark-Control-Collar/dp/B00173CWDW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1311170876&sr=8-2]Amazon.com: SportDOG Rechargeable NoBark 10R Bark Control Collar: Kitchen & Dining[/ame]
My parents had a dog with a similar barking problem a few years back. They got it one of those bark control collars and the problem was corrected within a week.
At least get you neighbor one of these first before you kill the thing.
[ame=http://www.amazon.com/SportDOG-Rechargeable-NoBark-Control-Collar/dp/B00173CWDW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1311170876&sr=8-2]Amazon.com: SportDOG Rechargeable NoBark 10R Bark Control Collar: Kitchen & Dining[/ame]
In most places the cops really have nothing they can do.
I live in Toronto and everything dog-related is to be done by our animal control:
1. You have to first place a call to complain, in order for the animal control officer to come do an investigation. He then in turn does whatever an investigation entails, then gives the owner a warning
2. After the warning stage, the dog owner is given a small fine if they don't comply.
3. It's only on your third complaint that animal control can send the dog owner to court for possible heavy fines.
4. Animal control can take the dog if it appears abused neglected.
None of this has anything to do with police -- you can't even call them on animal-related matters. All they can do is ask the owner to try and quiet the dog down... no legal action at all if it isn't physically harming anyone.
I would never let my dog act that way. He gets too much love and exercise. However the law in most states and provinces say usually state something to the effect of: "Everyone has a different level of tolerance for noise levels and the law does everything it can to accomodate the majority. Yadda yadda yadda."
If the city and cops don't care, how about a blow horn pointed in their direction a few nights in a row? Seriously, leave the fuckin dog alone. Your neighbours might be retarded but it's not the dog's fault. If you say the cops don't give a shit then it's simple, start blasting your music every night at 4 am, setting off fireworks, shooting off cap guns, get a blownhorn, they'll get the idea eventually.
Or play a recording of the most annoying sound you can find but make sure it's 12 times louder than the dog.
Here are some good choices:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ"]Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up - YouTube[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISHPumshGgA"]LIL B - LIKE A MARTIAN *OFFICIAL BASED FREESTYLE VIDEO* - YouTube[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNZLHjV2lfE"]The Most Annoying Sound Ever! - YouTube[/ame]
Or play a recording of the most annoying sound you can find but make sure it's 12 times louder than the dog.
Here are some good choices:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ"]Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up - YouTube[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISHPumshGgA"]LIL B - LIKE A MARTIAN *OFFICIAL BASED FREESTYLE VIDEO* - YouTube[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNZLHjV2lfE"]The Most Annoying Sound Ever! - YouTube[/ame]
I'm all for individual liberty, but killing his neighbors dog is essentially destroying his neighbors property and is one of the few things I agree should be illegal.
There are other, better approaches to fix this.
And all those saying he did call the cops, the only thing I read was that he filed a complaint with the city. Is that the same thing? I had a neighbor who would let her Shih Tzu sit outside for hours barking. I just called a filed a noise complaint. The cops showed up at her door and told her keep the dog quiet. I think she smokes a lot of weed, so just having the cops at her door made her really nervous and she complied. Granted she gives me dirty looks every time she sees me, but the dog isn't an issue any more.
No, he called the "city" you festering bag of cocks.
If there is a law against the noise, you call the police EVERY time it happens. You don't call the city, you call 911, every fucking night. You don't have a conversation with the fucking health inspector.
Regardless, considering the option of killing a dog because their owners are shitbags shows you are a 1. Fucking moron 2. Piece of shit.
I say children and domesticated pets are off-limits. I killed a lot of animals before I got into humans and trust me: Your conscience will come back to haunt you!
This post must be trolling though. Who joins an IM forum to ask such troll-like questions?
music4mic has it right.
Another option:
Headphones + this...
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KaOrSuWZeM"]12 Hours of White Noise (Static) in Stereo. Favorite it for the future. Studying Concentration Sleep - YouTube[/ame]
* Great for drowning out loud kids and women, too. I use it every day.
As for killing the dog...
Another option:
Headphones + this...
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KaOrSuWZeM"]12 Hours of White Noise (Static) in Stereo. Favorite it for the future. Studying Concentration Sleep - YouTube[/ame]
* Great for drowning out loud kids and women, too. I use it every day.
As for killing the dog...
Man, I have THIS EXACT PROBLEM.
I live in a small (4 unit) apartment building and the new neighbors downstairs have a dog that does NOT shutup. It barks all day, all night. It's so annoying and yes, it seriously causes a person to become stressed out especially when subjected to it relentlessly for weeks on end. Being woken up constantly is not fun.
Here's how I'm currently resolving the situation:
1) After a few weeks of the noise and realizing it wasn't going to stop on it's own - I contacted the landlord and explained the situation. He talked with them about it, but the problem did not stop (obviously most negligent dog owners don't correct the problem at this time).
2) I began calling the landlord at all hours of the day and night whenever the dog was barking. Even it was 3am, I was blowing up my landlord's phone.
3) After talking to the people twice and after getting tired of me calling him all the time, he issued them a warning letter stating that if the problem did not stop, they would be facing eviction as the other tenants are complaining about it constantly.
4) The dog still barks. The landlord was here the other day and I had him in my apartment so he could hear it for himself. He told me they will be getting another warning, and THE NEXT TIME the dog barks late at night - he will issue an eviction against them. They've had plenty of warnings and plenty of time to correct the situation.
In your case, if it's a private residence (ie, you don't have a property management company to complain to) and the dog is truly neglected, you need to call the SPCA/Humane Society. They will send investigators out and will not blow you off like the city did. They take their job very seriously. Even if the dog is not neglected, it can still be removed from the property as a nuisance animal (barks for more than 30 min without stopping).
Whatever you do, do not poison that poor dog. Fight the owner, not the animal. Plus, if you get caught you WILL go to jail for animal crulety.
I've had to move out of places before because of barking dogs so I know how it is, but hang in there. This time I decided to set my foot down and fight the bastards.
Best of luck, let us know how it goes.
I live in a small (4 unit) apartment building and the new neighbors downstairs have a dog that does NOT shutup. It barks all day, all night. It's so annoying and yes, it seriously causes a person to become stressed out especially when subjected to it relentlessly for weeks on end. Being woken up constantly is not fun.
Here's how I'm currently resolving the situation:
1) After a few weeks of the noise and realizing it wasn't going to stop on it's own - I contacted the landlord and explained the situation. He talked with them about it, but the problem did not stop (obviously most negligent dog owners don't correct the problem at this time).
2) I began calling the landlord at all hours of the day and night whenever the dog was barking. Even it was 3am, I was blowing up my landlord's phone.
3) After talking to the people twice and after getting tired of me calling him all the time, he issued them a warning letter stating that if the problem did not stop, they would be facing eviction as the other tenants are complaining about it constantly.
4) The dog still barks. The landlord was here the other day and I had him in my apartment so he could hear it for himself. He told me they will be getting another warning, and THE NEXT TIME the dog barks late at night - he will issue an eviction against them. They've had plenty of warnings and plenty of time to correct the situation.
In your case, if it's a private residence (ie, you don't have a property management company to complain to) and the dog is truly neglected, you need to call the SPCA/Humane Society. They will send investigators out and will not blow you off like the city did. They take their job very seriously. Even if the dog is not neglected, it can still be removed from the property as a nuisance animal (barks for more than 30 min without stopping).
Whatever you do, do not poison that poor dog. Fight the owner, not the animal. Plus, if you get caught you WILL go to jail for animal crulety.
I've had to move out of places before because of barking dogs so I know how it is, but hang in there. This time I decided to set my foot down and fight the bastards.
Best of luck, let us know how it goes.
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If you weren't clearly such a pussy, they'd have probably shut the dog up by now. But hey, you thought it would be a good idea to call the health inspector.
I feel like I should clarify some things (or people aren't reading the original post?).
I didn't call the health inspector. I first called the police who told me to fuck off in so many words and call the city instead. I called the city and they said they would send out a health inspector to make sure the house is decent condition and that the dog isn't living in squalor. That essentially didn't accomplish anything as their house is fine and not a squalor. Calls back to the city essentially tell me since their living conditions check out I can not claim it's animal abuse and that they have more important things to deal with like the crime rate or something.
While I said the dog is being neglected, I don't really have a case. The dog is simply chained up in the back yard at most of the hours of the day, but they do walk it every now and then and feed it/keep it reasonably groomed (it's a short haired pitbull and doesn't really need that much grooming). From the outside everything looks fine and the whole "animal abuse" excuse isn't going to fly.
And I would like to reiterate that I'm not a bad person. I wouldn't enjoy killing this dog. I love animals and I am not a violent person. But this is seriously ruining my life. I have a feeling some people don't understand what it's like to be woken up at 4AM in the morning on a regular basis. Perhaps run this experiment: go to sleep at 11-12 every night but set the alarm for 4AM and do this for a week in a row and tell me how you feel. This kind of regiment is making me depressed and suicidal. I have considered moving but since I own this property it's not that simple. And I don't feel that I should
Essentially these neighbors have ruined my life. I have a feeling that after the health inspector incident they have began to hate me more and are willingly letting their dog bark out of spite. My other neighbors claim they don't hear anything but I think it's more of a "I don't want to get involved" stance more than anything. This is a relatively small neighborhood and everyone knows everyone else for years and tries to stay out of everyone's way as much as possible.
And I'm almost positive that anti-bark sonic wave is complete bull. I'll give it a try though before I go through with the diabolical deed, I'll let you all know how it goes.
Even thinking about what I am going to have to do is making me sick and giving me night-terrors and nightmares in the little time that I do get to sleep.
And yes, it would be obvious if this dog ends up dead that it was I who planned the scheme. I will attempt to make it appear as much as natural as possible as far as picking the poison goes, but if I get caught I will accept the punishment. Paying a fine will be worth if it if I can finally get some rest in my house.
I didn't call the health inspector. I first called the police who told me to fuck off in so many words and call the city instead. I called the city and they said they would send out a health inspector to make sure the house is decent condition and that the dog isn't living in squalor. That essentially didn't accomplish anything as their house is fine and not a squalor. Calls back to the city essentially tell me since their living conditions check out I can not claim it's animal abuse and that they have more important things to deal with like the crime rate or something.
While I said the dog is being neglected, I don't really have a case. The dog is simply chained up in the back yard at most of the hours of the day, but they do walk it every now and then and feed it/keep it reasonably groomed (it's a short haired pitbull and doesn't really need that much grooming). From the outside everything looks fine and the whole "animal abuse" excuse isn't going to fly.
And I would like to reiterate that I'm not a bad person. I wouldn't enjoy killing this dog. I love animals and I am not a violent person. But this is seriously ruining my life. I have a feeling some people don't understand what it's like to be woken up at 4AM in the morning on a regular basis. Perhaps run this experiment: go to sleep at 11-12 every night but set the alarm for 4AM and do this for a week in a row and tell me how you feel. This kind of regiment is making me depressed and suicidal. I have considered moving but since I own this property it's not that simple. And I don't feel that I should
Essentially these neighbors have ruined my life. I have a feeling that after the health inspector incident they have began to hate me more and are willingly letting their dog bark out of spite. My other neighbors claim they don't hear anything but I think it's more of a "I don't want to get involved" stance more than anything. This is a relatively small neighborhood and everyone knows everyone else for years and tries to stay out of everyone's way as much as possible.
And I'm almost positive that anti-bark sonic wave is complete bull. I'll give it a try though before I go through with the diabolical deed, I'll let you all know how it goes.
Even thinking about what I am going to have to do is making me sick and giving me night-terrors and nightmares in the little time that I do get to sleep.
And yes, it would be obvious if this dog ends up dead that it was I who planned the scheme. I will attempt to make it appear as much as natural as possible as far as picking the poison goes, but if I get caught I will accept the punishment. Paying a fine will be worth if it if I can finally get some rest in my house.
Talk is cheap. It's like someone saying they're a good parent, great driver, or fantastic lover.
Actions speak more loudly.
Never move to Thailand then. Get woken up by barking dogs been a daily occurrence for me for about the past 16 months. I especially love it when a street dog finds their way here at 4am, and all the dogs (including mine) begin barking in unison.
BTW... I make a thread wondering where my dog would be better off (village or with us), and I get totally blasted for it by everyone. This guy actually wants to commit pre-meditated murder against a dog, and you guys are giving him support and sympathy. WTF?
BTW... I make a thread wondering where my dog would be better off (village or with us), and I get totally blasted for it by everyone. This guy actually wants to commit pre-meditated murder against a dog, and you guys are giving him support and sympathy. WTF?