DP-style Review Plz with extortion twist

I think Nick hit one of the worst problems right now. EVERYONE is a writer or a social bookmarker. EVERY THREAD.

This makes software products (that have real quality, and people DO care about) like Nick and I's, fall off very quickly. You simply cannot compete with 10 threads a minute offering third rate writing or social bookmarking that all comes in on the same account or some other crap. Let's be honest, no one really wants to buy social bookmarking from anyone but Amit, because he's a hero.
 
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So it's settled. The only ones who can use BST are Amit, Refrozen, and myself.

Everyone else, fuck off.
 
Lots of good banter here but this reply really strikes a chord with me

Refrozen said:
I think Nick hit one of the worst problems right now. EVERYONE is a writer or a social bookmarker. EVERY THREAD.

This makes software products (that have real quality, and people DO care about) like Nick and I's, fall off very quickly. You simply cannot compete with 10 threads a minute offering third rate writing or social bookmarking that all comes in on the same account or some other crap. Let's be honest, no one really wants to buy social bookmarking from anyone but Amit, because he's a hero.
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Seriously ... EveryFuckingBody sells content or links ... it's like 98% of the BST.

I make my monies off repeat customers, partially because that's the way it should be and partially because I'm forced to as I have better things to do all day than look out for my thread.

It's severely limiting to the amount of exposure you get when a day after a someone posts on your thread it's dropped on page 4.

You would be surprised the difference in # of requests I get from new people looking for keyword research when someone randomly posts in my thread. It's really the difference between 5 people getting with you in a day vs. 2 people in a week. Honestly, it's not because someone is finally interested after seeing the 50th review posted ... it's simply a lack of exposure.

In the end, I'm against bumping so really I've just let CS chill out ... it's kind of a shame as it's given a lot of new marketers a good start in PPC (including 5 of the top 10 NE3ers that I know of).

Slingin' reports is not where I make my money so business dying off a little isn't a big deal to me, but at this point it's really a disservice to noobs who don't even know this service exists. Ditto for WFreview, radio's ebay plugin, rage's (ex) FB scraper, etc.

Since I'm against any kind of regulation, I see only a couple of possible solutions.

1> preferred venders - Move us fuckers to our own forum so that we get the exposure we deserve without having to hawk our warez against the noobs who have nothing better to do than bump

2> Open more sub-forums (this is a good solution actually). Links are separate from content are separate from software are separate from prostitution. Mods, it's a long time overdue!

BST is just a clusterfuck that's really not doing anyone justice at this point. Someone do something, quite frankly it's just doesn't work.
 
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Sub-dividing BST seems like the best solution to me and is something that has been talked about on and off for a while now. I'll see if we can get things moving on that.
 
I suggested this a year back, to have a posting limit (say 25 posts or even 50 posts) for some one to create a thread in the BST, that will weedout a lot of newbies from bumping thread and creating new accounts to bump the threads. I mean you should contribute to the community also.

Also why not have a paid system (I know i am going to get flamed), something like you pay like $50 to create a new thread in the SBT section, that will weed out of all crap of the same service being posted again and again and again.
 
Red_Virus said:
I suggested this a year back, to have a posting limit (say 25 posts or even 50 posts) for some one to create a thread in the BST, that will weedout a lot of newbies from bumping thread and creating new accounts to bump the threads. I mean you should contribute to the community also.

Also why not have a paid system (I know i am going to get flamed), something like you pay like $50 to create a new thread in the SBT section, that will weed out of all crap of the same service being posted again and again and again.
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I'd be all for a $50/post fee.
 
Guys, the forum engine is not the greatest platform for a marketplace. Yes software threads get buried fast from link vendors etc. The best solution I think are subcategories in the BST.
I think giving paid threads is not a good option, wickedfire's marketplace is pathetically quiet even as it is, compared to other sites.
 
I'm not sure the cost is a good idea, $50 is dear. And setting a posting limit will just encourage more spammy posts elsewhere. The one things scammers have to waste, is time. Plus the $50 is a tax.

An alternative idea is to sell time limited stickies. It's more in line with capitalism. Or a paid and a free forum, one public (paid) and one private (free).

I think better organization is a good idea. One idea is to divide offers by type. Another one is to make the BST private (if it isn't already) and promote good services to a publicly available forum. Something like, "verified providers".

Just spit ballin.
 
guerilla said:
I think better organization is a good idea. One idea is to divide offers by type. Another one is to make the BST private (if it isn't already) and promote good services to a publicly available forum. Something like, "verified providers".

Just spit ballin.
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I like the verified providers idea, but I wonder if we (the posters in this thread, mostly providers) don't just like it because we stand to benefit from them. This feels like we're lobbying the mod crew to guarantee us a rent.

haha.
 
Refrozen said:
I like the verified providers idea, but I wonder if we (the posters in this thread, mostly providers) don't just like it because we stand to benefit from them. This feels like we're lobbying the mod crew to guarantee us a rent.

haha.
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Yeah, I have a thread in BST, but I don't anticipate being any regular sort of seller. I started to realize that $50 for rent was a barrier to entry, and that's inconsistent with my free market fanaticism. ;)

But I don't think there is anything wrong with WF upselling stickies or privileged placement. It's really no different than selling advertising on the forum.
 
There's nothing wrong with selling stickies ... WF deserves money. The sad truth is that BST will have a list of stickies a mile long as soon as it's implemented.

It also doesn't help with segregation the same way that subdividing BST would ... we'd still be overrun by content & links.
 
lol ^^

We're talking about it in the staff section, so don't think that your feedback is going unheard.
 
Refrozen said:
I like the verified providers idea, but I wonder if we (the posters in this thread, mostly providers) don't just like it because we stand to benefit from them.
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It's true if we're being honest here.

red_virus wants paid posting so his competition goes down but ignores subdividing BST since all service seekers are forced to scroll through all the threads ... his have hundreds of posts which stands out like an erect cock.

Myself & the other software~ish vendors want to be special and have our own section. I'm sure domainers and hosting providers feel the same.

Senior members want to have a preferred vendor section.

Those of us with money would be all for paying for stickies, assuming there won't be 50 stickies.

So yea, all of this is self serving BS but that doesn't mean the system "just works" in it's current state.

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We're talking about it in the staff section, so don't think that your feedback is going unheard.
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Glad to hear it. Make the WF-BST the best of any of the webmaster forums and people will start flocking to buy services which increases membership.

Seriously, there are tons of us who keep DP accounts just to buy cheap ass shit. WF could end up being the place people go to buy quality if you guys do this right.

These (potential) changes are worth more than just pacifying those of us in this thread providing :2twocents: .... it's about making the WF marketplace truly work.
 
Thanks Erect, to be honest with you I have no problems with the sub categories. I already see that being implemented.

I just wanted paid posting so that the creation of the same threads don't happen again and again each week and then the bumping game/strategies for these threads to land up at the top with duplicate accounts (I can show you examples by pm).

Also as you know, my threads are on the 2nd and 3rd pages buddy and I liked your comment about "erect cock" - we are gay's.

Let's get back to making some monies.


erect said:
It's true if we're being honest here.

red_virus wants paid posting so his competition goes down but ignores subdividing BST since all service seekers are forced to scroll through all the threads ... his have hundreds of posts which stands out like an erect cock.

Myself & the other software~ish vendors want to be special and have our own section. I'm sure domainers and hosting providers feel the same.

Senior members want to have a preferred vendor section.

Those of us with money would be all for paying for stickies, assuming there won't be 50 stickies.

So yea, all of this is self serving BS but that doesn't mean the system "just works" in it's current state.



Glad to hear it. Make the WF-BST the best of any of the webmaster forums and people will start flocking to buy services which increases membership.

Seriously, there are tons of us who keep DP accounts just to buy cheap ass shit. WF could end up being the place people go to buy quality if you guys do this right.

These (potential) changes are worth more than just pacifying those of us in this thread providing :2twocents: .... it's about making the WF marketplace truly work.
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