DP-style Review Plz with extortion twist

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The "review plz" mafia attitude here is getting old. If a vendor says no review copies, then let his thread sink or swim on people taking the risk or negotiating a discount. Sorta the way it was last year.

Some folks call in mods because they can't extract free shit from every new vendor gets old fast. Veteran service providers don't need to be told about reviews, they already know up front if they want to do them or not. Some vendors won't do them because they are bullshit handouts, and you can get paying customers to review for small discounts and extras, instead of handing out freebies and undermining the pricing of your product.

That's my two cents. Let itrader and rep push down bad vendors. Extortion is unnecessary, and threatening vendors with mod retaliation is just sad. I mean, I saw guys with less than 50 posts and only 1 month members trying to extort a vendor for free shit the other day. It's getting out of hand.

Let's not let this excellent BST turn into DP.
 


If a vendor says no review copies, then let his thread sink or swim on people taking the risk or negotiating a discount.
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that would require reading the post first... seems half the time people are in a mad race to be the first!!1! to post review copy plz! that they don't even bother to see if one is offered or not.

i've made mention of this in a few threads - that first come, first served on review copies is a poor way to dole them out - and agree that it's rather DP in nature around wf BST as of late - funny thing is: it wouldn't be an issue if vendors didn't fulfill the requests! lol.

but there are exceptions to the rule too - there's a thread currently that is in dire need of reviews - and it's finally getting them. there were more "any reviews?" "would buy if there were reviews" posts than actual posts. that was a weird one though.

finally, i agree that the wf bst is fucking amazing...
 
I know I'm not yet an established member, but heres my 2 cents anyway:

I often buy various services here on WF - link building, articles... And I must say that the whole "review copy plz" crowd has been getting fucking annoying lately.

It seems that lately the fucking review beggars have ruined at least half of all the new threads from new service providers. Fuck off already. If you are a power-buyer, contact the seller by PM and negotiate a deal. Or take a discounted copy if there is one.

Smart new providers will contact legitimate/respected/not fucking begging members/mods and offer them a free copy in exchange for a review.

Retarded ones will fail anyways, free review copy or not. Let it be that way.
 
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but there are exceptions to the rule too - there's a thread currently that is in dire need of reviews - and it's finally getting them. there were more "any reviews?" "would buy if there were reviews" posts than actual posts. that was a weird one though.
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I know the thread you are talking about.

The odd thing in that thread is that the vendor is making sales, and doesn't seem distressed by the lack of reviews. The people who are distressed about the lack of reviews are potential customers and yet some people are buying the service anyway.
 
nanexo said:
yep

what about that cockroach "sticks" all he does is extort any newcomer and he NEVR buys anything fukking deadbeat loser if u ask me
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Fuck that is Funny...Bookmarking this, and opening the chips ....Yo Sticks..where you at...
 
Can I please ask vendors that give out "review copies" to report members that don't then post a review.

Also, think about who you are getting to review your service - a review from an established member is likely to bring in more sales than one from a one post wonder.

As for reporting vendors that don't give out reviews... fuck off! It's up to them at the end of the day and I doubt any mod is gonna come in on the side of those wanting the free shit.
 
nanexo said:
yep

what about that cockroach "sticks" all he does is extort any newcomer and he NEVR buys anything fukking deadbeat loser if u ask me
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Bahahahahahahahaha, you know me too well, who gave you my info!?!?oneone!1!!

And I'd like a review copy to whatever it is you are selling plz, kthxbye.
 
My .02, but if you restricted the BST section to people who only have 20+ posts and positive rep and positive iTrader, you'd get rid of a lot of the bullshit.

I personally think the BST section should be for contributing members, not any old vendor. If we want a vendor section, make it separate from BST and throw a $20/post fee on it. That keeps BST for legitimate, trustworthy vendors and puts a reasonable barrier to entry on the vendor section.
 
bb_wolfe said:
My .02, but if you restricted the BST section to people who only have 20+ posts and positive rep and positive iTrader, you'd get rid of a lot of the bullshit.

I personally think the BST section should be for contributing members, not any old vendor. If we want a vendor section, make it separate from BST and throw a $20/post fee on it. That keeps BST for legitimate, trustworthy vendors and puts a reasonable barrier to entry on the vendor section.
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That's not a bad idea, and we've gone over that many time in the staff area. Problem is: it could kill the BST area. There have been a few members that came to WF specifically for BST and have turned out to have great services as well.
 
Get a mod dedicated to BST, start warning and suspending the idiots, eventually people will stop being so fucking dumb in fear of being banned. I've asked for a few review copies before but I can't stand kids spamming it. I'd honestly be a BST mod.
 
Make review requests binding.

Limit the accounts of people who fail to post a timely or informative review.

If your review sucks, pay for the product.


If there are members who are particularly awful at reviews, soft ban them.

You could also limit the number of review copies that any one member can request.

Three reviews per month sounds about right.

Vendors can always seek out reviews before posting a sales thread.

One difference between this place and DP is that on DP, most of the products being sold are complete bullshit and most of the reviews are fake.
 
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hits the nail on the head.

bb_wolfe said:
My .02, but if you restricted the BST section to people who only have 20+ posts and positive rep and positive iTrader, you'd get rid of a lot of the bullshit.

I personally think the BST section should be for contributing members, not any old vendor. If we want a vendor section, make it separate from BST and throw a $20/post fee on it. That keeps BST for legitimate, trustworthy vendors and puts a reasonable barrier to entry on the vendor section.
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TylerL said:
Get a mod dedicated to BST, start warning and suspending the idiots, eventually people will stop being so fucking dumb in fear of being banned. I've asked for a few review copies before but I can't stand kids spamming it. I'd honestly be a BST mod.
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I totally volunteer.
 
I'd like to see as little regulation as possible in the BST forum. There are problems, but most of the senior members and moderators do a remarkable job of keeping a lid on the knuckleheads. The system seems to work.

When members seek excessive freebies, they damage their own reputation. Eventually, that hurts them. That is how it should be. When I see a person asking for free review copies, I discount that person, their review (if they offer one), and any iTrader given to the vendor.

Were I to see a flagrant freebie-seeker harassing a trusted member in that member's BST thread, I would intervene. I have seen other senior members do the same.

The system works.

I'm always leery of rules, especially when it comes to commerce. Rules tend to creep.
 
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