CNN, Dr. Sanjay Gupta admits to being wrong about weed.

thehobbster said:
Lol @ the people thinking weed can't make you trip or cause psychosis.
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Have you even read the stupid OP or thread? People are claiming that STOPPING weed causes hallucinations which is fucking retardedly false.

No doubt SMOKING weed can cause different forms of anxiety in some people. These are generally people who already have some type of anxiety disorder. These people should be smoking only indica strains, especially high-CBD medicinal strains such as Harlequin, cannatonic, etc. These are an anxious persons' dream come true. Works as good as or better than Xanax with no side effects.

And yes, you're right that certain strains - primarily high THC sativas like "Green Crack" etc - can certainly make you "trip" if you smoke enough. People create strains just for this purpose.

But just saying "weed" and lumping them all together is silly. Every strain is different, some are apples to oranges.
 


dsiomtw said:
Have you even read the stupid OP or thread? People are claiming that STOPPING weed causes hallucinations which is fucking retardedly false.

No doubt that SMOKING weed can cause different forms of anxiety in some people. These are generally people who already have some type of anxiety disorder. These people should be smoking only indica strains, especially high-CBD medicinal strains such as Harlequin, cannatonic, etc. These are an anxious persons' dream come true. Works as good as or better than Xanax with no side effects.

And yes, you're right that certain strains - primarily high THC sativas like Green Crack etc - can certainly make you "trip" if you smoke enough.
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I used to get anxiety when I smoked up. I thought switching to Indica would solve my problems, but recently got a medical card and bought MK Ultra (I was told it was a high Indica strain), unfortunately I still got anxiety. Do you think I should give one of those strains you mentioned a try?
 
If you suffer from anxiety and/or smoking causes anxiety, definitely try a high-CBD strain. Harlequin is awesome. Got a 1/2 oz right here - wish I could share a toke with ya. It's a great daytime bud, even if you don't suffer from anxiety. Also, don't smoke it - I highly recommend vaporizing instead. :rasta:

Keep in mind that even a lot of dispensaries don't know their shit. They'll tell you something is mostly indica when it's not, etc. Your best bet if you can is get MMJ from a high-end dispensary that has all of their weed lab tested. I would recommend something with around a 1:1 THC/CBD ratio, like Harlequin. Most "street" weed is bred to have super high THC and little to no CBDs because most recreational users just want to get fucked up. (THC is what makes you "high", can cause anxiety, hallucinations, etc. etc.)

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dsiomtw said:
Have you even read the stupid OP or thread? People are claiming that STOPPING weed causes hallucinations which is fucking retardedly false.

No doubt SMOKING weed can cause different forms of anxiety in some people. These are generally people who already have some type of anxiety disorder. These people should be smoking only indica strains, especially high-CBD medicinal strains such as Harlequin, cannatonic, etc. These are an anxious persons' dream come true. Works as good as or better than Xanax with no side effects.

And yes, you're right that certain strains - primarily high THC sativas like "Green Crack" etc - can certainly make you "trip" if you smoke enough. People create strains just for this purpose.

But just saying "weed" and lumping them all together is silly. Every strain is different, some are apples to oranges.
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Cold Turkey can fuck you up. Even with weed.
 
thehobbster said:
Cold Turkey can fuck you up. Even with weed.
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First I'm hearing of it. I've been around daily smokers since high school growing up and including myself not ever knew anybody that had any kind of withdrawal symptoms. Lot of people I knew including myself would have to stop cold turkey because of probation and being drug tested. Never did any of us have any sort of withdrawal symptoms. If I even tried to tell any if my friends I'm having real withdrawal symptoms from weed, I would be laughed out of the room.

If you suffer from side effects of weed after STOPPING you have some other severe underlying mental issues.

Hell a couple years ago I went to Amsterdam for 3 months smoked heavy all day everyday. When the 3 months were up I returned to the states and I haven't smoked since and I've been perfectly fine.
 
MentalyDisturbd said:
First I'm hearing of it. I've been around daily smokers since high school growing up and including myself not ever knew anybody that had any kind of withdrawal symptoms. Lot of people I knew including myself would have to stop cold turkey because of probation and being drug tested. Never did any of us have any sort of withdrawal symptoms. If I even tried to tell any if my friends I'm having real withdrawal symptoms from weed, I would be laughed out of the room.

If you suffer from side effects of weed after STOPPING you have some other severe underlying mental issues.

Hell a couple years ago I went to Amsterdam for 3 months smoked heavy all day everyday. When the 3 months were up I returned to the states and I haven't smoked since and I've been perfectly fine.
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3 months isn't really what I'm talking about. 3 years of being high from the moment you wake up until the moment you go to bed, and you smoke a shitload before sleeping as well. I figure being high about 20 hours of every day for 3 years straight on non-stepped on bricked up bullshit, then stop cold turkey.

Again though, I reiterate. Everyone has a different bodily and psychological make-up. Brushing those who don't have the same experience as you as "having severe underlying mental issues" is bad science.
 
Finally someone with influence is actually using some common sense. I personally don't smoke weed, but it doesn't bother me when others do. The lengths that we go to regulate it and the money we spend on prosecuting and and incarcerating individuals because of incidents regarding it is beyond ridiculous.
 
satchel said:
The lengths that we go to regulate it and the money we spend on prosecuting and and incarcerating individuals because of incidents regarding it is beyond ridiculous.
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It is rational.

Put yourself in the shoes of the ruling class. You have been "given" the authority to pass laws. You have also been "given" the authority to confiscate and direct assets toward the enforcement of those laws. Lastly, you have been "given" the authority to appoint those who are tasked with prosecuting violators.

Imagine possessing that kind of influence.

Now imagine having "friends" - in this case, Pfizer, Bayer, Merck, et. al - who encourage you to pass and enforce laws, and prosecute those who violate them. In return, they agree to contribute to your reelection campaign; they promise to create high-level positions for you and your family; or they might offer any number of other favors in exchange for your support.

Now imagine the prison lobby making the same promises.

Now imagine the law enforcement lobby making the same promises.

And since we're letting our imaginations run wild, let's also assume the cartels are making a few promises of their own.

Given the above and assuming self-interest, criminalizing weed - its possession, usage, and sale - and aggressively directing resources toward enforcement and prosecution is entirely rational. Doing otherwise would be silly.

Now consider the fact that the ruling class didn't become so by birth. Welcome to democracy. Enjoy your stay. ;)
 
_poto_ said:
Nah bro, there's no pro-weed government conspiracy here. It's just plain old demographic trends, and it's been a very long time coming.

The baby boomer generation and previous generations, which had a majority opposing weed are dieing off. The younger generations after them have a majority in favor of legalizing. Even some of the old baby boomers have started to be won over by the medical marijuana movement because they're getting to that age where they are having lots of medical problems and can benefit from it.

Politicians and the media usually only pay attention to trends. They didn't care when weed was a small counter-culture thing. But now you have states where a majority of the population have already voted to legalize. That trend is something that is only going to grow over time, especially as more of the old folks die off and are replaced by younger voters who want to legalize.
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I agree with this completely. I'd also add though, that the extremely anti-weed position taken by a lot of baby boomers was, imo, people reacting strongly against the hippie movement. Plus there were also religious considerations obviously.

But yeah. The only thing that's slightly surprising to me is how long it took CNN to get on the bandwagon.
 
thehobbster said:
3 months isn't really what I'm talking about. 3 years of being high from the moment you wake up until the moment you go to bed, and you smoke a shitload before sleeping as well. I figure being high about 20 hours of every day for 3 years straight on non-stepped on bricked up bullshit, then stop cold turkey.

Again though, I reiterate. Everyone has a different bodily and psychological make-up. Brushing those who don't have the same experience as you as "having severe underlying mental issues" is bad science.
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Nigga plz. If you knew who you were talking to, you wouldn't be talking to ME about how much weed is too much weed. First of all, if you bothered to read my previous post I mention that I was smoking all day every day from morning to sleep for 3-4 years, and how I had no job and smoked and sold weed, that's all I did and I had the best weed around which came from Switzerland, back when everybody was smoking mexican dirt. Which all ended abruptly when I got busted and I quit everything cold turkey because of probation.

If you only knew where I came from. It all started from ditching class in high school to get high, most everybody I knew ended up dropping out completely because all they wanted to do was get high. Somebody I knew that we would get high with daily, his parents were hippies we would smoke in his house as teenagers every single day, all day every day like it was nothing. We dropped acid at his (60+ year old) dads house, and smoked him out as he was telling us stories of getting blow jobs.

I didn't count any of the times that I was still smoking occasionally after my 3-4 years of continuous daily use. So, please nigga recognize that I know all about weed and my experience comes from real life experience, my own and all the people I knew growing up. You get your "information" from books, my experience is real life. Not a single person I know became psychotic from weed. Trust me I knew a lot of people, all we would do is get high and party every single day. Once I got kicked out my parents house as a teen, the three of us got our own house and shit would go off every single night.

Also nigga, believe me when I say, weed was the most minor thing we did. I'm talking dropping acid regularly, dropping xtc like every other day at one point when some bomb ass shit came through one time. Other than that, rolling and being all fucked up every weekend and going to raves. Not to mention how much coke I was doing at one point. So, let me tell you that weed was nothing compared to what I was really doing at certain points. I never needed help or rehab to come off anything, maybe I just don't have an addictive personality, I did what I wanted and when I didn't have it I didn't lose my mind. These days I don't do anything at all, I have maybe 1 or 2 drinks on the weekends and that's it. These days I'm into working out and staying healthy. Just my choice, I'm not a kid anymore and I don't have time to live life the way I used to.

If you want to say some people are just pussies and can't handle it, just because I and everybody I knew could hang that doesn't mean there aren't pussies out there, then yes I will agree with you there.


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Worst weed experience I've had was doing a gravity bong hit in SoCal after living in the midwest for a few years. Made me lightheaded and I had to sit down for a minute.

Other than that never had anything but positive from it.

Even with a medical card, after having brain surgery I've had high doses of all the concentrates, RSO, BHO/shatter/wax, various hashes, and never any crazy side effects. I have a prescription that conflicts with herb, exaggerates the side effects, and never hallucinations.
 
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