After Tomorrow No More Rebills

magicberry said:
seriously if you are not doing the right thing by people you are going to get burnt... I just think that people on this forum need to realise that there is more at stake than "ohh look at these rebills.... oohhh they are going down....Affiliate Marketing is dead!!"

My advice is harden the fuck up get your heads out of your asses and start doing something that will get everyone a result on a forum rather than getting peoples back up.

The smart thing to do in this sort of scenario is work together. I am sure now that no one on this forum really gives a rats ass about others. Infact I bet that if no one on here was making a buck from other members they would be eating bread crumbs for dinner every night.

Watch the DVD called "The Secret"... it teaches people about the power of attraction... you want wankers and no hopers using this forum... well guess what you stupid fucks... YOU GOT THEM!!!
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magicberry said:
The smart thing to do in this sort of scenario is work together. I am sure now that no one on this forum really gives a rats ass about others. Infact I bet that if no one on here was making a buck from other members they would be eating bread crumbs for dinner every night.
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As much as people [claim to] rev... I do find it strange, to say the least, how no one out there tries to resolve this as an industry effort.

Me personally- I see offers as strictly instruments. 128 byte cleartext strings with dollar symbols attached. Following network compliance and general campaign planning, all that's left is to scale and do it ^100 times over again.

Do bank traders get involved with huge morality discussions before shipping 10 crates of AK47's to Somalia? No. Infact, good chance the entire product and shipment were nothing more than CGI graphs on a 19" trade screen, coincidentally analyzed to warrant a 'profitable transaction'.

You guys need to learn to view advertising offers through the same perspective as bank traders view stocks.

^ very long topic with endless examples, but in short; bank traders fuck human lives by the thousands, every minute, while buying ferrari's with YOUR tax money as their reward. why should you care how the system finds your rebills? the system is not there for your wellbeing either!!

That being said, any individual person could resolve this situation through an investment of less than €100k. Approach the right accountancy, I guess :)
 
eVandals said:
Yeah, it's them. In fact they are placing most of the accounts that were closed on the TMF file, even if your cb ratio's were fine and you didn't break the terms you signed with them. When there are rumors that visa/mc are coming after you with an $100k fine per noncompliant descriptor I can understand they probably shit their pants, but they also jumped the gun and put a lot of people on the master list they shouldn't have.
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Jesus Christ... forget what I said about giving them benefit of the doubt... putting people on the TMF file for NO reason? Shit I'd stay clear of them even after the dust settles after seeing what they did....
 
evelynds said:
As much as people [claim to] rev... I do find it strange, to say the least, how no one out there tries to resolve this as an industry effort.

Me personally- I see offers as strictly instruments. 128 byte cleartext strings with dollar symbols attached. Following network compliance and general campaign planning, all that's left is to scale and do it ^100 times over again.

Do bank traders get involved with huge morality discussions before shipping 10 crates of AK47's to Somalia? No. Infact, good chance the entire product and shipment were nothing more than CGI graphs on a 19" trade screen, coincidentally analyzed to warrant a 'profitable transaction'.

You guys need to learn to view advertising offers through the same perspective as bank traders view stocks.

^ very long topic with endless examples, but in short; bank traders fuck human lives by the thousands, every minute, while buying ferrari's with YOUR tax money as their reward. why should you care how the system finds your rebills? the system is not there for your wellbeing either!!

That being said, any individual person could resolve this situation through an investment of less than €100k. Approach the right accountancy, I guess :)
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lol wat? we have to be complicit in sending firearms to somalia now?
 
Are you fucking kidding me???? Noooo!!!! I haven't even started to reap benefits yet!!! Nooooooooooo!!!!!!

And I liked Obama!!!!!!
 
busyni said:
Are you fucking kidding me???? Noooo!!!! I haven't even started to reap benefits yet!!! Nooooooooooo!!!!!!

And I liked Obama!!!!!!
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Yes they are fucking kidding you. There are surviving merchants.

You liked Obama.
 
Umm okay now, what?!

This is my email to clickbank and their response:



Hello [doodee]

Thank you for your inquiry. Visa and Mastercard are still allowing rebilling products.


Best regards,

Shane
ClickBank.com Client Support
Help Center: ClickBank Help Center






-----Original Message-----
From: CB_Accounting
Sent: Lunes, 11 de Enero de 2010 10:11 a.m.
To: CB_Accounts
Subject: FW: Payment Inquiries



-----Original Message-----
From:
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 10:42 PM
To: CB_Accounting
Subject: Payment Inquiries

Vendor and Affiliate Question

Subject: GAYPayment Inquiries

Questions:
I heard on a net marketing forum that visa and master card are getting rid of rebills. Is this true? Did you hear about it? What do you plan to do?

PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL
This transmission may contain privileged, proprietary or confidential information. GAYIf you are not the intended recipient, you are instructed not to review this transmission. GAYIf you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender that you received this message and delete this transmission from your system.


PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL
This transmission may contain privileged, proprietary or confidential information. GAYIf you are not the intended recipient, you are instructed not to review this transmission. GAYIf you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender that you received this message and delete this transmission from your system.
 
Okay. I found out from someone at WF that most of these posts were false for some reason or other. Either false information or trying to mislead people like myself.

I am relieved to read what the true information is and apologize for any stupidity or lack of reading every single post in this thread. So I apologize.

Hope you're having a great day.
 
busyni said:
Umm okay now, what?!

This is my email to clickbank and their response:
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Your effort to bring clarity on the subject didn't go unnoticed. Of course they are still allowing rebill products. The person that created this thread cannot distinguish the difference between a "rebill product" and deceptive advertising continuity products, and is most likely lacking a critical intuition of business in general. This title of this thread should be changed because it's misleading and retarded.

The example that has already been mentioned multiple times is Netflix. At&t, verizon every other phone carrier, myfax, ringcentral and other such legitimate continuity services and products will obviously not be whimsically just cut off from processing. Under the precedent that the rebill model can be done successfully with happy customers, businesses and advertisers even on clickbank can still use the model.

Processors and banks are going to get more strict on reviewing this type of model under their risk departments, at least domestically. Once the business is up and running and everything is fine, chargebacks remain low, there is no difference between that type of business and a cost per sale business. A transaction is a transaction, it's only once the transactions become fraudulent in scale on either the side of the customer or the side of the merchant that authority and regulation steps in.
 
busyni said:
Okay. I found out from someone at WF that most of these posts were false for some reason or other. Either false information or trying to mislead people like myself.

I am relieved to read what the true information is and apologize for any stupidity or lack of reading every single post in this thread. So I apologize.

Hope you're having a great day.
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Oh, noes! Can I has trust Interwebz ??? Oh, noes!

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I can tell you that my company does all of our processing overseas. Our mid's are fine, we are still processing 100's of orders per day, with no sign of stopping. Companies who are doing their processing in the US are in some serious trouble, but those who aren't seem to be doing okay
 
exclusivewrites said:
I think you are missing his analogy.

By "wool coats" he was alluding to just shearing "consumers" wool allowing them to live another day in order to shear again in the future.

By transitioning to "lamb chops" he was implying that some desire to pillage thus slaughtering the "lambs".. Eg "consumers"

Better put, his analogy would be killing the golden goose for its meat as opposed to living forever off its eggs.

His other point is correct.. my theory would require bulletproof procedures with a product possessing a modicum of intrinsic value.. if so, it'd work better than you can imagine. Done with shade, it'd result in a world of hurt.
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I can't really see what this stir is all about. Seems like a bunch of lazy people own these offers.

There are lots of options still available for advertisers seeking merchant accounts. I'd be happy to share via pm.
 
DigitalBuddha said:
I can tell you that my company does all of our processing overseas. Our mid's are fine, we are still processing 100's of orders per day, with no sign of stopping. Companies who are doing their processing in the US are in some serious trouble, but those who aren't seem to be doing okay
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fuck. i just pulled all my landers and deleted them, and emptied my recycle bin, now youre telling me i could still be running?
 
ebtek your a fucking tart for doing that... how much does memory cost?

Anyways it was prob outdated shitlanders anyways
 
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