one more thing. How do I change my password here on wicked fire?! I've looked everywhere and all I have is the default mumbojumbo I'll never attempt to rememeber
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It's not as big of a threat as you think. If you're managing the client, finding the leads, handling payments and deadlines and all the other bullshit, the majority of people will just do their work as long as you pay them well.
Most people have no motivation to move past working for someone and rely on others to lead them so much that they will forever be under the leadership of someone striving to get higher than they ever will.
Sounds good to me!
Lets hope that I don't get screwed over!
As long as I do the best I can to make things run smoothly, I can imagine I'll be profiting more with people who work well together and produce quality results because of the amount of positive feedback it should generate.
As a way to make sure they stay motivated and have time to learn and get a feel for each other I'm thinking about sacrificing my own profit for the first few projects in before we generate higher quality/higher paying sites.
This would be a way, as far as I see it, to flip my profits into my profit producing peeps... Keeping the goose nice n healthy till maturity.
What are your thoughts on that?
Lets hope that I don't get screwed over!
As long as I do the best I can to make things run smoothly, I can imagine I'll be profiting more with people who work well together and produce quality results because of the amount of positive feedback it should generate. As a way to make sure they stay motivated and have time to learn and get a feel for each other I'm thinking about sacrificing my own profit for the first few projects in before we generate higher quality/higher paying sites.
This would be a way, as far as I see it, to flip my profits into my profit producing peeps... Keeping the goose nice n healthy till maturity.
What are your thoughts on that?
Managing is the way forward, but there is alot more to it than just taking a cut.
I originally posted this:
Its 100 times more relevant now if you intend to outsource the work. I mean that cigar site wasted alot of your time. If you where paying to have it designed, it would have wasted your money instead.
Really get to grips with design briefs and contracts. Work out what YOU will be doing, and make sure the work you outsource is CLEARLY defined to the outsourcer.
I have found outsourceing programming relativly painless, as i find it very easy to clearly explain what i need doing.
Design on the other hand is harder (im my experience anyway) as there is a degree of interpretation and creativity required. Get it wrong and you end up having 100 alterations and redesigns done, that your designer will want to bill for, and your client wont want to pay.
Most of the time now, i create the initial wireframes myself, and get them signed off, along with a detailed brief, before sending them off to a designer to fill out.
This is something that i would need to overcome if i wanted to do large volume small client work, but i really cant be arsed with that nowdays. I prefer to do a few large (mainly ecommerce) projects with extended marketing contracts.
In regards to your comment about not taking a cut, i hardly ever make a profit on the initial sites for the clients i take nowdays. My last job LOST me about 1.2K (intensionally) on the initial 'sale' (the site design and dev), but includes a 24mnth marketing contract that will make me a contractual minimum of 1k per mnth.
I originally posted this:
Its 100 times more relevant now if you intend to outsource the work. I mean that cigar site wasted alot of your time. If you where paying to have it designed, it would have wasted your money instead.
Really get to grips with design briefs and contracts. Work out what YOU will be doing, and make sure the work you outsource is CLEARLY defined to the outsourcer.
I have found outsourceing programming relativly painless, as i find it very easy to clearly explain what i need doing.
Design on the other hand is harder (im my experience anyway) as there is a degree of interpretation and creativity required. Get it wrong and you end up having 100 alterations and redesigns done, that your designer will want to bill for, and your client wont want to pay.
Most of the time now, i create the initial wireframes myself, and get them signed off, along with a detailed brief, before sending them off to a designer to fill out.
This is something that i would need to overcome if i wanted to do large volume small client work, but i really cant be arsed with that nowdays. I prefer to do a few large (mainly ecommerce) projects with extended marketing contracts.
In regards to your comment about not taking a cut, i hardly ever make a profit on the initial sites for the clients i take nowdays. My last job LOST me about 1.2K (intensionally) on the initial 'sale' (the site design and dev), but includes a 24mnth marketing contract that will make me a contractual minimum of 1k per mnth.
So you have the marketing savvy working for you.. Niice
So your suggesting that the first step is getting a very VERY clear idea of what the client wants and having them agree by signing off. Then the rest should take care of its self...
So your suggesting that the first step is getting a very VERY clear idea of what the client wants and having them agree by signing off. Then the rest should take care of its self...
Yes and no!
Yes you need to start as mentioned, but no it wont then necessarily take care of its self.
You need to sign off stages as you go along.
Although most clients will want a quotes for the job as a whole, make sure you break it down in detail, with time estimates and an hourly rate.
That way if they start changing their mind or generally fucking about (" Yes thats exactly what i asked for, but i was looking at whatever.com the other day and really liked blah blah") you can say "sure, that can be implemented, it should take around x additional hours to incorporate."
At the end of the day, you will learn from your mistakes. Try and get as much detail from your client, and you will give yourself a good start, but it really takes a bit of practical experience to discover all the pitfalls.
Yes you need to start as mentioned, but no it wont then necessarily take care of its self.
You need to sign off stages as you go along.
Although most clients will want a quotes for the job as a whole, make sure you break it down in detail, with time estimates and an hourly rate.
That way if they start changing their mind or generally fucking about (" Yes thats exactly what i asked for, but i was looking at whatever.com the other day and really liked blah blah") you can say "sure, that can be implemented, it should take around x additional hours to incorporate."
At the end of the day, you will learn from your mistakes. Try and get as much detail from your client, and you will give yourself a good start, but it really takes a bit of practical experience to discover all the pitfalls.
Ok. I'm spending some time with internet marketing again. My designer quite on me. The idea of building money making machines is appealing to me. I'm willing to put in plenty of time since I wont be stressed about spending money or dealing with clients personally.
My question is, after spending a few days looking for an honest-to-god decent niche to work, how can I speed up the process for finding niches to work? If you don't wish to post it here I'd be glad to receive a private message.
I'm left to assume is random guess work. I'd found niche that only seems pretty good after assessing about 13 others. Its time consuming to search only 1 niche.
My question is, after spending a few days looking for an honest-to-god decent niche to work, how can I speed up the process for finding niches to work? If you don't wish to post it here I'd be glad to receive a private message.
I'm left to assume is random guess work. I'd found niche that only seems pretty good after assessing about 13 others. Its time consuming to search only 1 niche.
just make a list of all the shit you enjoy doing in your personal life and build 3-5 sites on those. Then write all day long across all sites, building each one up into a big site that can stand on it's own.
Rewrite content using the best spinner and you basically have unlimited unique content.
thats somewhat something I'm going to do. Only I really don't want to jump into a market thats got too much, or too strong of competition. Ya feel me?
if there's a lot of competition (non-branded competition) then it's probably very profitable and worth while to put effort into. Flank the competition by targeting long tails to start and invest 6-12 months in your site and you'll be cruisin
damn, good point.
By competition I meant competition for a spot on front page of google. to get in the top 10.
By competition I meant competition for a spot on front page of google. to get in the top 10.
as long as it's not a branded keyword (ie. google hasn't given cisco.com the top 9 spots) it's beatable with hard work. Split your time between growing your site as large as it can be (good, unique content) and growing your link profile as large as it can be (good links from lots of unique sources)
I'm finding millions of tools out there to help speed up the process with both of those things. I've got to run to the bank to deposit some cash.
I owe hostgator $30 and gotta buy my domain name. its got 100% density so I'm stoked about that =)
I owe hostgator $30 and gotta buy my domain name. its got 100% density so I'm stoked about that =)
please don't buy anything more than the best spinner and scrapebox at first. The majority of programs out there are complete and utter shit and aren't worth your money, but both of those are great to start with.
Do things manually at first. Setup google alerts for your keywords and see what comes up each day, then write articles based on those topics. Comment on the articles that come up.
You need a good base to start off of. 2 hours of blog commenting and 2 hours of writing will take you pretty far if you do it consistently
sounds good. I don't know what those things are just yet. I'm on the Moneymakingdisc site right now finding lots of methods.
How would I know which is the best spinner or scrapbox?
How would I know which is the best spinner or scrapbox?
If I were to copy and paste articles from other sites, and then link back to the source page, would I get into trouble for this?
no, not really, but don't be lazy, 10 minutes with the best spinner will make it unique. Do that 10 times a day and you have 10 new articles per day in under 2 hours of work
your right man. I know nothing about this subject i'm blogging about, and so I'm gonna have to use my Aunt's knowledge. She can hardly write english, so it'll be a a bit tricky getting content up.
But once the site is up and running, and I've done everything I can do with it, I'll start up some other blogs.
Next time I'm gonna use free domains from places like blogger or wherever. I hate paying for hosting and domain names. If I can make money without doing that, that would be ideal.
But once the site is up and running, and I've done everything I can do with it, I'll start up some other blogs.
Next time I'm gonna use free domains from places like blogger or wherever. I hate paying for hosting and domain names. If I can make money without doing that, that would be ideal.