Trump for US President?

"Eugenics is a social philosophy advocating the improvement of human genetic traits through the promotion of higher rates of sexual reproduction for people with desired traits (positive eugenics), or reduced rates of sexual reproduction and sterilization of people with less-desired or undesired traits (negative eugenics)"

I seem to remember your desired traits to include white skin etc etc and the need to get birth rates back up to the level they were at 30 years ago. Your turn.
Especially second part, I'm not after sterilization by any means.
 


No, I've said that if you want to take a part in a discussion on some meaningful level you have to have some knowledge to do this in the first place. If you are not able to go "there" and educate yourself (even if it comes from different point of vies) that's your problem, not main. Also, I'm not going to play here some link serving tool because you feel it''s better for you that way.

You might not be a link serving tool, but you're a tool nonetheless.

You made a bunch of baseless claims due to your personal bias and prejudice regarding race. You cited zero sources except for your "feels" and are telling me that it is my responsibility to "educate" myself and do research regarding YOUR garbage opinion. Basically you're a lazy arrogant sack of shit that doesn't even want to provide data to support your points. You need to provide the research that backs up your statements if you want to be taken seriously.

When you write an essay for university, do you tell the professor that he/she needs to go and research the claims you made in your essay themselves? No. You would receive failing mark. The burden is on you to back up your claims with facts and data that support your argument if you want a good mark from the professor grading your paper. What makes you think you can get away with not doing that here? Because it's an informal environment?

They're your fucking claims. Back them up with data or go fuck yourself.
 
Awww the potato eating Polack thinks he's white. You're not white. As a proud Jew I would never let my daughter marry a Polish man because I fear that it would dirty up my family tree.

Don't forget that in Poland we are in charge. So run along and do whatever you want, but stay away from my daughter and know your place.
 
But you want to restrict whites from reproducing with non whites right?
No, I think they should be educated well enough on all aspects of this subject, and then make their free decisions. Right now too many "whites" are just brainwashed customers of everything what you throw their way (same goes for others).
 
You might not be a link serving tool, but you're a tool nonetheless.

You made a bunch of baseless claims due to your personal bias and prejudice regarding race. You cited zero sources except for your "feels" and are telling me that it is my responsibility to "educate" myself and do research regarding YOUR garbage opinion. Basically you're a lazy arrogant sack of shit that doesn't even want to provide data to support your points. You need to provide the research that backs up your statements if you want to be taken seriously.

When you write an essay for university, do you tell the professor that he/she needs to go and research the claims you made in your essay themselves? No. You would receive failing mark. The burden is on you to back up your claims with facts and data that support your argument if you want a good mark from the professor grading your paper. What makes you think you can get away with not doing that here? Because it's an informal environment?

They're your fucking claims. Back them up with data or go fuck yourself.
I see you would like me to, but LOL, this is not uni. What you want me to do? To paste here links, citations, quotes, books, etc.? Or maybe I should paste here my entire brain for you?

Ok, I will make you happy. Here is one especially for you

Current Depression Among Adults --- United States, 2006 and 2008

And what you gonna do now? Will you try to challenge my point of view just on basis of this one little study? LOL, give me a break.

Again, here is how it looks like:

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This is from US, and you guys do with this what you like ;)
 
OK, so we agree on something at least.

Nature? Your view of nature is somehow distorted I think. You want to see how nature really looks like, go to discovery channel (or better to wilderness for some time, or look at ants, or other insects...). Can you see there animals doing "experiments" just like we humans do? Can you see one animal raping other just to fulfill his/her sexual needs, and not for purpose of reproduction and preserving his/her precise genetic lines?

You would argue that biology has no hold on humans because we have evolved into self aware beings? That we are not influenced by nature now? Guess who else thinks that? Feminists. With their "gender is a social construct" nonsense and their fight to invalidate biology. They maintain that the reason that most men are attracted to young women with shiny hair, white teeth, a healthy weight and good hip to waist ratio is because that is what men are taught by society. But that is bullshit, those preferences come from the male's instinct to mate with females that have the best chance of conceiving and carrying healthy offspring. And how well is feminism working out for white birth rates? Not great. You can't game nature. Attraction is there or it's not. We are free to fake attraction sure, let's all mate with people we aren't attracted to, you first.

Also, plenty of species of animals have sex for pleasure outside of their breeding season, have oral sex or other non conceptive sex and there are many species of animals where homosexual sex has been well documented. Just FYI, we are not entirely unique in that.


Finally, people from other races are still homo sapiens. This is tantamount to breeding two different colors of rabbits together. And it's a good thing to mix it up, it keeps us from suffering the effects of inbreeding.
 
Again, here is how it looks like:

prosperity2050_chart.jpg


This is from US, and you guys do with this what you like ;)

I think you are forgetting we are not the ones worried about that trend, you are the one worried about that. That chart was posted a few pages back in this thread, I think it's great. #Beige2050
 
Why are you not worried about it?

Because:

1- The trend could change at any point in the next several decades due to changes in the cultural climate etc

2- I don't think skin color is important in and of itself

3- Anything that is not self sustaining is destined for extinction, these are recessive traits and that's how evolution works

4- I have not heard a reasonable proposal to reverse this trend so seems like if it's going to happen, and it may not, then there is not much we can do about it. The trend is beyond the point of depending on immigration to move forward so unless we want to bring back segregation etc I don't think there is anything actionable here
 
Because:

1- The trend could change at any point in the next several decades due to changes in the cultural climate etc

2- I don't think skin color is important in and of itself

3- Anything that is not self sustaining is destined for extinction, these are recessive traits and that's how evolution works

4- I have not heard a reasonable proposal to reverse this trend so seems like if it's going to happen, and it may not, then there is not much we can do about it. The trend is beyond the point of depending on immigration to move forward so unless we want to bring back segregation etc I don't think there is anything actionable here

Appreciate the response.

1. This ties in with the question I asked like a month back about whether this is all planned or not. This isn't a cultural change, it is an agenda. People do whatever they're told to do for the most part. When you have the government schools and media pushing an agenda you can't call it a cultural shift. It's a plan that is being executed. And many Americans know this which is why there is such a push back.

2. We're not talking about skin color. We're talking about preferences of different races and cultures. Different races and cultures act differently. Different races build different countries. White countries are different than Latino countries. Asian countries are different than Black countries. And I find it funny how everybody seems to like White cultures the most and they all want to bring their culture into white culture. The problem is that the parts they like about white culture are a result of ideologies and behaviors that are absent in their culture -- which is why they like it -- they want the best of both worlds. They want the white culture without the morality or self-responsibility that comes with it for example. But you can't take your culture into white culture and expect it to work the same. The reason people like Western civilization is because it has characteristics which are absent in other parts of the world that nobody wants to go to and live in. People from Sweden don't want to move to Saudi Arabia. People don't want to move to Mexico. People don't want to move to India. The culture creates a society that people don't like relative to white culture in general. And the societies that people do like require actual work, effort, growth, honesty and things that other cultures still don't like. Why people don't understand this isn't beyond me, it's because they go to government schools and don't research anything.

3. Not really sure what you're saying here.

4. You haven't heard a reasonable proposal to reverse it? You're perfectly fine accepting it. You can't be not worried about it happening and at the same time be willing to hear out a reasonable proposal. If it's not a problem to you then you can't care about fixing it. You don't fix something that's not broken. Of course there are actionable things we can do. The first is admit the facts of what is going on. We can first admit that cultures are different. We can first admit that facts aren't racist.
 
Anybody else watch? Thoughts?

Just watched the VP debate.

Kaine kept diverting the question and subject to Trump character assassination. It reflects poorly on how Clinton and Kaine can deal with the issues in question when character assassination on a unrelated subject is their best answer.
 
Appreciate the response.

1. This ties in with the question I asked like a month back about whether this is all planned or not. This isn't a cultural change, it is an agenda. People do whatever they're told to do for the most part. When you have the government schools and media pushing an agenda you can't call it a cultural shift. It's a plan that is being executed. And many Americans know this which is why there is such a push back.

2. We're not talking about skin color. We're talking about preferences of different races and cultures. Different races and cultures act differently. Different races build different countries. White countries are different than Latino countries. Asian countries are different than Black countries. And I find it funny how everybody seems to like White cultures the most and they all want to bring their culture into white culture. The problem is that the parts they like about white culture are a result of ideologies and behaviors that are absent in their culture -- which is why they like it -- they want the best of both worlds. They want the white culture without the morality or self-responsibility that comes with it for example. But you can't take your culture into white culture and expect it to work the same. The reason people like Western civilization is because it has characteristics which are absent in other parts of the world that nobody wants to go to and live in. People from Sweden don't want to move to Saudi Arabia. People don't want to move to Mexico. People don't want to move to India. The culture creates a society that people don't like relative to white culture in general. And the societies that people do like require actual work, effort, growth, honesty and things that other cultures still don't like. Why people don't understand this isn't beyond me, it's because they go to government schools and don't research anything.

3. Not really sure what you're saying here.

4. You haven't heard a reasonable proposal to reverse it? You're perfectly fine accepting it. You can't be not worried about it happening and at the same time be willing to hear out a reasonable proposal. If it's not a problem to you then you can't care about fixing it. You don't fix something that's not broken. Of course there are actionable things we can do. The first is admit the facts of what is going on. We can first admit that cultures are different. We can first admit that facts aren't racist.

Interesting discussion :)

Part #3 is mostly an observation that if the white race is going to become extinct in the United States then really the buck stops with white people. We have been and are still the majority of the population. Most, if not all, of the contributing factors to the white population decline have been brought about directly through our decisions, through both our actions and lack of action throughout the last 50 to 100 years. I say that because I think that a lot of times people that look at the resulting trend and see it is some kind of outside caused problem but really we set this ball in motion. And even if some sentient force had their hand in engineering it at the end of the day it's our responsibility to make informed and intelligent decisions.

IMO most of the decline can be traced back to feminism and then later, intersectional feminism. We swallowed all of that pretty eagerly. If feminism is allowed to reach it's ultimate consequence it is an extinction event. Push women to be career focused = less babies. Push women to despise traditional gender roles = less babies. Easy access to birth control and abortion = less babies. Teach women that they don't have to take care of themselves to be attractive and that they should act more like men = men don't find them attractive = less babies. Teach men that traditionally male values and behavior is wrong = less masculine men = women are less attracted to them = less babies. Make divorce an easy option and make the courts favor women = men don't want to get married = less babies. And on and on. Feminism drove a wedge between men and women, especially in white america. So people started going outside their race to seek a partner. White guys looking for feminine women and white women looking for dominant men = less white babies.

I should be very clear that while I don't really care about skin color trends that doesn't mean that I wouldn't care about loss of American culture, I just don't think necessarily that if we gradually lose the white skin dominance all of the sudden at a certain level the US is going to POOF and turn into Kabul or something. If you have a white kid grow up in Jamaica queens he will likely pick up that culture, similarly if you have a black kid grow up in an all white small town in Iowa he'll probably think and act like the people there. The problem comes in when you import big groups of people, concentrate them in the same area and don't encourage assimilation or worse still you bend all your own rules to accommodate them.

It will take many generations for us to really all become mixed race. I think the more civilized culture will win out as long as we stop the bleeding as far as feminism and bullshit PC culture because they are impediments to an honest dialogue. I don't think facts are racist, facts are facts. Fact is though that the chart that was posted doesn't show cultural change, it just shows skin color change. So while you and I may be talking about cultural differences that chart is not necessarily going to predict how the culture part is going to play out IMO.

TLDR: I care about cultural change, I don't care much one way or the other about the mere aesthetic skin color change. And at this point in our very established country I don't think necessarily that one predicts the other.
 
Pro-Hillary Clinton movie director Steve Goli's celebrity filled video clip backfired:

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