"The Interview" Scrapped. The Terrorists Win.

Kiopa_Matt said:
Because it's a ploy. Sony is in the business of making $100s of millions by making up story lines.

Who knows, maybe the threats to take The Interview down were real. If that's the case, it's probably because many hackers are anarchists, and many anarchists truly believe their the new age freedom fighter. Many have such hatred for the US govt and its policies, they sometimes are sympathetic to NK, and sometimes even favor NK policies. That's probably more plausible than the "advanced NK cyber army".
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Implying that anarchists actually approve of North Korea policies...which pretty much is a dictatorship.

Let me guess anarchists also want to burn everything and loot stores. Am I right?
 


Rage9 said:
Why not? It would seem that the virus used to do most of the damage is reported to being able to be purchased on the black market. This would fit a profile of a country like North Korea that is not known as a technologically superior county. This is not something like Stuxnet which was state crafted for a specific purpose.
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Because there is not a piece of software that can do what was done to Sony. Social engineering had to be a part of this. A tremendous number of hours went into getting all the pieces of the puzzle to implement the virus. This data wasn't just setup on 1 or 2 servers. I mean sure I suppose they could have hired this out.

When you consider how Sony has been a target by crackers for years, and really pissed a lot of "activist" types before/during/and after the whole LulzSecepisode.

I have no idea who is responsible for this, but a LulzSec type organization fits the sniff test much more than North Korea. That doesn't mean NK didn't take advantage of this "interview" fiasco.

And last but not least. The North Korea narrative has been pushed since the beginning. Even when the evidence was lacking, North Korea has been the meme of the whole hack. It just doesn't fit. It's to neat. Since when does Obama condemn specific countries for cyber attacks?
 
Kiopa_Matt said:
Because it's a ploy. Sony is in the business of making $100s of millions by making up story lines.
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I think it would be more accurate to say they are in the business of paying people who make up story lines lots of money for them and then packaging them for the masses. Also they make Walkmen.
 
dmnEPC said:
And last but not least. The North Korea narrative has been pushed since the beginning. Even when the evidence was lacking, North Korea has been the meme of the whole hack. It just doesn't fit. It's to neat. Since when does Obama condemn specific countries for cyber attacks?
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I thought we did condemn China for cyber attacks or espionage, no?

US Charges Chinea Government Officials With Cyber Crimes

Yes! In fact the US went as far as to charge Chinese government officials. So no, this does not seem like some kind of crazy leap.
 
Rage9 said:
I thought we did condemn China for cyber attacks or espionage, no?

US Charges Chinea Government Officials With Cyber Crimes

Yes! In fact the US went as far as to charge Chinese government officials. So no, this does not seem like some kind of crazy leap.
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It is absolutely a crazy leap. You're talking about the difference in a nation state like China doing obvious digital espionage which is exactly what everyone would expect them (and the US, and Israel and Russia, etc) to do. We're talking espionage conducted to gain an advantage militarily or economically. It makes perfect sense and surprises nobody. Countries spy on each other and will use hacking to do so.

To jump from that to believing that a nuclear powered nation state like North Korea with zero history of terrorism would use their l33t hacking skillz to threaten "9/11 style attacks" on US theatres if they released a fucking Seth Rogen comedy...well that would be the definition of a "crazy leap".
 
Unarmed Gunman said:
It is absolutely a crazy leap. You're talking about the difference in a nation state like China doing obvious digital espionage which is exactly what everyone would expect them (and the US, and Israel and Russia, etc) to do. We're talking espionage conducted to gain an advantage militarily or economically. It makes perfect sense and surprises nobody. Countries spy on each other and will use hacking to do so.

To jump from that to believing that a nuclear powered nation state like North Korea with zero history of terrorism would use their l33t hacking skillz to threaten "9/11 style attacks" on US theatres if they released a fucking Seth Rogen comedy...well that would be the definition of a "crazy leap".
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^^^^^^^^
this.


Obama called a "dictator" news taking off 11/23/14


Day fucking 1 11/24/14

This quote ran
A U.S official tells Associated Press that federal investigators are exploring links to North Korea over the Sony data breach.
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An anonymous source just happens to plant this quote on day 1. Why was it an unnamed official? This one little quote built the NK narrative long before it was officially announced. This doesn't strike you as odd?
 
As a result of our investigation, and in close collaboration with other U.S. government departments and agencies, the FBI now has enough information to conclude that the North Korean government is responsible for these actions. While the need to protect sensitive sources and methods precludes us from sharing all of this information, our conclusion is based, in part, on the following:

Technical analysis of the data deletion malware used in this attack revealed links to other malware that the FBI knows North Korean actors previously developed. For example, there were similarities in specific lines of code, encryption algorithms, data deletion methods, and compromised networks.
The FBI also observed significant overlap between the infrastructure used in this attack and other malicious cyber activity the U.S. government has previously linked directly to North Korea. For example, the FBI discovered that several Internet protocol (IP) addresses associated with known North Korean infrastructure communicated with IP addresses that were hardcoded into the data deletion malware used in this attack.
Separately, the tools used in the SPE attack have similarities to a cyber attack in March of last year against South Korean banks and media outlets, which was carried out by North Korea.
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Further, North Korea’s attack on SPE reaffirms that cyber threats pose one of the gravest national security dangers to the United States.
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North Korea’s actions were intended to inflict significant harm on a U.S. business and suppress the right of American citizens to express themselves. Such acts of intimidation fall outside the bounds of acceptable state behavior. The FBI takes seriously any attempt—whether through cyber-enabled means, threats of violence, or otherwise—to undermine the economic and social prosperity of our citizens.

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FBI Sony UPDATE

Well that's it. Guess that circumstantial evidence locks it up. Case closed
 
People who refer to leaders of state as 'crazy' are sheep to the max.

Putin is not crazy, Jung Un Kim is not crazy, neither is Ahmedinedjad or Saddam.

Their actions are perfectly rational from their own perspective.
 
Here is a quote from the last guy who hacked Sony
(a rat fuck snitch)

Working under the code name Sabu, Hector Monsegur was responsible for some of the most notorious hacks ever committed. As he told "CBS This Morning" co-host Charlie Rose earlier this month, Monsegur began cooperating with the FBI after getting caught. He now works as a security researcher.

"For something like this to happen, it had to happen over a long period of time. You cannot just exfiltrate one terabyte or 100 terabytes of data in a matter of weeks," Monsegur said. "It's not possible. It would have taken months, maybe even years, to exfiltrate something like 100 terabytes of data without anyone noticing."

Administration officials believe North Korea was behind the hack.

"It could be. In my personal opinion, it's not," Monsegur said. "Look at the bandwidth going into North Korea. I mean, the pipelines, the pipes going in, handling data, they only have one major ISP across their entire nation. That kind of information flowing at one time would have shut down North Korean Internet completely."

Monsegur is confident they don't have the infrastructure to carry out this kind of attack.

"They don't have the technical capabilities," he said. "They do have state-sponsored hackers very similar to China, very similar to Russia and very similar to our good old USA."
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"Well, it doesn't tell me much. I've seen Russian hackers pretending to be Indian. I've seen Ukrainian hackers pretending to be Peruvian.There's hackers that pretend they're little girls. They do this for misinformation, disinformation, covering their tracks," he said. "Do you really think a bunch of nerds from North Korea are going to fly to New York and start blowing up movie theaters? No. It's not realistic. It's not about 'The interview.' It's about money. It's a professional job."
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Ex-Anonymous hacker questions North Korea's role in Sony hack - CBS News
 
North Korea's computers don't connect to the real internet. How fucking retarded are you guys?

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Fierce said:
Whoosh, you totally missed all the points. I never said the North Korean government would admit to such a thing and they have not, because that would up the ante. They have hinted that they approve and given veiled threats. It is very easy to hide yourself on the internet. Ok, let's for a moment say it was "hacktavists", why would they focus so intently on this particular film - it only offends North Koreans?

Wtf you on about tank warfare for? That was an analogy, aka everyone is much more equal online so your high tech reinforced armour don't mean shit like it would it the physical world.
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North Korea actually complained to the United Nations about the movie and publicly called it an act of War, greenlighting or directing a hacking attempt isn't too far fetched for them
 
SHGDigitalMedia said:
North Korea's internet traffic gets routed through China, which is why that amount of Data doesn't jump off the screen. In all likely hood if North Korea did give the go ahead for this, the actually hacking of it would of likely originated outside of North Korea.
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You're right. I guess I should have posted that part of the rats quote

Monsegur said there's also a chance the hack could have originated from China.

"I mean, it's possible," he said. "It might be a North Korean inside China."
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My point is more about the hack not passing the sniff test of the last guy to actually fuck with sony.

I think it's pretty obvious that anyone with a few bucks can scale any interent operation cheaply and easily.
 
What if this whole thing is a performance by Sony itself?

Hollywood is under pressure for so long to come up with a better solution and get to terms with new digital age, and they were so inept with that.

Trying to fight piracy on internet proved as a lose lose game. So maybe, just maybe, this is their opportunity to enter the digital world and find a right online distribution channel and use this model for the future.

They, maybe, did it this way so people would not say that Hollywood caved under pressure of general peasant public to change things and was forced to find another way with "Interview" that proved like a good solution for future movies too. Also, the publicity for their first "online distribution trial" is proving to be incredible.
Win win situation.

I hope that this is the right assumption, would be a great shift in media distribution, and the proper way to do it finally!
 
babylonian said:
What if this whole thing is a performance by Sony itself?

Hollywood is under pressure for so long to come up with a better solution and get to terms with new digital age, and they were so inept with that.

Trying to fight piracy on internet proved as a lose lose game. So maybe, just maybe, this is their opportunity to enter the digital world and find a right online distribution channel and use this model for the future.

They, maybe, did it this way so people would not say that Hollywood caved under pressure of general peasant public to change things and was forced to find another way with "Interview" that proved like a good solution for future movies too. Also, the publicity for their first "online distribution trial" is proving to be incredible.
Win win situation.

I hope that this is the right assumption, would be a great shift in media distribution, and the proper way to do it finally!
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I would say no chance. If on the off chance they did it, they went way overboard and destroyed this company. If they had done it you would have seen it much smaller and contained. This is only a small part of Sony, but this branch is fucked. They can't do buisness right now. They have little to no trust in the industry ATM. Talent will keep there distance, companies will keep there distance. Shit is really really bad for them. This is the type of damage that could sink the company (not Sony as a whole).
 
I would take anything "Sabu" says with a grain of salt. Though he is correct on one thing Sony was owned for a considerable amount of time. Sabu is also somewhat of a joke in the hacking scene. Stephen Watt is 100 times the hacker sabu is.
 
bashx said:
I would take anything "Sabu" says with a grain of salt. Though he is correct on one thing Sony was owned for a considerable amount of time. Sabu is also somewhat of a joke in the hacking scene. Stephen Watt is 100 times the hacker sabu is.
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Agreed. Which is why I qualified his quote with 'rat fuck snitch'. But that doesn't make his thoughts on it invalid. Kind of like when Sammy the bull snitched out Goti.
 
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