I hope you are kidding.
You can recoup the cost of one machine in less than one hundred uses. At least when it comes to MRIs in the US.
I did the math a couple months ago when I had to get an MRI.
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I hope you are kidding.
You can recoup the cost of one machine in less than one hundred uses. At least when it comes to MRIs in the US.
I did the math a couple months ago when I had to get an MRI.
There are much lower prices everywhere else on earth. Many of these countries have less competition and more government involvement. Therefore we cannot solely blame those two things for high prices. Obesity rates in the US would be another contributing factor, for example.
I'm having deja vu, lol.
How about Switzerland, etc?
There are some areas in the US served by private fire departments. The majority of fire fighting and ambulance services in Denmark are provided by a private company.
The US government spends more tax money per person on health care, so the high taxes in Europe aren't just because of health care.
I wasn't going to jump in here fully because usually these healthcare threads suck dog turds. But there are just TOO DAMN MANY people on here forgetting that there is an Evil to socialized medicine (any medicine payed for by taxation in any way) that you guys are totally neglecting to factor into your conclusions.
If you do appreciate socialized medicine at all, please watch this very short film right now:
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs]George Ought to Help - YouTube[/ame]
Now explain to us here please, why oh why, George must pay for someone else's healthcare. That's just Evil.
Of course the US makes George do this as well, all countries save Somalia do... Smart Americans know that their country is far more socialized than most of Europe; our overall taxes are similar.
Hiring one of someone, even after legthy interviews and choosing the best candidate, is NOT the free market... It is just ONE. How can you have competition with one?
In a free market you will have many building teams working on parallel projects and they all know if they're not the most efficient then they might not get hired next time. That kind of constant threat stops that foot-dragging shit COLD.
I know it's hard to imagine a full picture of the free market at work, because we've never really seen one before. I get it.
But you have to get that the only reason we haven't seen one before is because we've come down from the trees with tribal leaders that pushed some form of socialism leadership on us. -We just weren't able to mentally grasp a real free market as a species until lately, and now that we can we've got these huge, killer governments in standing firmly in the way.
Once one is toppled or better yet new land is manufactured (seastead) or reached (moonbase) then finally we can have a real, true free market that will do exactly all of those things you said. And more.
If you do appreciate socialized medicine at all, please watch this very short film right now:
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs]George Ought to Help - YouTube[/ame]
Now explain to us here please, why oh why, George must pay for someone else's healthcare. That's just Evil.
Of course the US makes George do this as well, all countries save Somalia do... Smart Americans know that their country is far more socialized than most of Europe; our overall taxes are similar.
Now if you factor in the fact that less than 15% of americans even have a damn passport, you can put those numbers in its' true perspective.
Correction: we HATE our crony-corporatism-ruled system... We just want it to go in the other direction from yours, not closer!
I have. I know the frustration that you speak of. I've often dreamed about going back and slaying those foot-dragging, money-gouging bastards with a machete... But that's NOT the free market at work!
Hiring one of someone, even after legthy interviews and choosing the best candidate, is NOT the free market... It is just ONE. How can you have competition with one?
In a free market you will have many building teams working on parallel projects and they all know if they're not the most efficient then they might not get hired next time. That kind of constant threat stops that foot-dragging shit COLD.
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I know it's hard to imagine a full picture of the free market at work, because we've never really seen one before. I get it.
But you have to get that the only reason we haven't seen one before is because we've come down from the trees with tribal leaders that pushed some form of socialism leadership on us. -We just weren't able to mentally grasp a real free market as a species until lately, and now that we can we've got these huge, killer governments in standing firmly in the way.
Once one is toppled or better yet new land is manufactured (seastead) or reached (moonbase) then finally we can have a real, true free market that will do exactly all of those things you said. And more.
Hong Kong is the most libertarian place on earth and has no FTC, limited regulations, and a small but efficient pro business government. It also has a 16% income tax for all income sourced from Hong Kong, and a 0% income tax on all income made outside of Hong Kong. There is also no capital gains tax, no estate tax, and no sales tax.
Yet Hong Kong still manages to have better public education than the US, safe public housing for the working class, and decent public health care. Private health care is also available, and at a fraction of the cost of American private health care. HK is considered first world with an advanced developed economy.
Hong Kong also has a massive HK$66.7 billion surplus despite the low taxes.
You Americans can keep on drinking the Kool Aid about the US, but the reality is that your tax dollars are literally funding Iraqi public health care (which is enshrined in Iraq's constitution) while you get to enjoy the privilege of being squeezed by your private health care providers. Talk about a double whammy.
Sorry fellas, the joke's on you. What you have isn't capitalism, it's corporatism as amateursurgeon already mentioned. Stop being ignorant and get a clue.
Yet Hong Kong still manages to have better public education than the US, safe public housing for the working class, and decent public health care. Private health care is also available, and at a fraction of the cost of American private health care. HK is considered first world with an advanced developed economy.
Hong Kong also has a massive HK$66.7 billion surplus despite the low taxes.
You Americans can keep on drinking the Kool Aid about the US, but the reality is that your tax dollars are literally funding Iraqi public health care (which is enshrined in Iraq's constitution) while you get to enjoy the privilege of being squeezed by your private health care providers. Talk about a double whammy.
Sorry fellas, the joke's on you. What you have isn't capitalism, it's corporatism as amateursurgeon already mentioned. Stop being ignorant and get a clue.
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I'm amazed at the sheer amount of fuckwits in threads like this, cheerleading for American healthcare. To all those who think US doctors are trained to some special superior standards and have some magical extra expertise - You're fucking stupid. You think the free market will offer the best prices? Wake up, it doesn't and medical industries will set whatever fucking price they want to keep profits up & shareholders happy. Will free healthcare have longer wait lists? Possibly. Can you still opt to buy seperate health insurance and get (supposedly) better medical care from private companies? Yes.
It's my 1000th post, and I'll do whatever the hell I want with it, thank you very much.
Oh, and...
Does it? Compared to what? The fascistic American system?
That's like saying Mao's Communism and mass murders were better than Stalin's Communism and mass murders.
Think. Use your brain.
Why?
Absolutely.
Why?
LMFAO
Why do we have to call Blackwater? Why can't we just utilize a peace officer who has sworn an oath to uphold the common law?
Why?
Why?
I have him on ignore. He is one of the biggest idiots this forum has ever seen, and considering that group includes Hellblazer, Riddar and Moe Bedard, it really says something about what a moron he is.
This is true, can't speak about Canada and UK but Australian health system is FAR from perfect, it's pretty fucking bad actually BUT at least you have some sort of a safety net, so if shit goes wrong you know you will not have to choose between bankruptcy and dying.
So if you get cancer and need $300,000 worth of surgery and chemotherapy, who is paying for it? your insurance company?
You're not paying for what you use!
For all you asshats who say there's no long lines in Canada, suck on this!
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@MSTeacher, no argument? Such weak game.
But then, you don't understand anything about economics, so this doesn't surprise me.
You don't understand the difference between insurance and socialism.
But then, you don't understand anything about economics, so this doesn't surprise me.