who's watching the state of the union speech?

Both sides are fucked up. the only way we get out of this clusterfuck is by returning to the framers' concept of a VERY limited federal government, more rights and power to the states.

Like gay marriage? Great. Make it legal in your state. hate it? Move to OK. Same thing with health care.

My objection to Barack Whoblames Obama, all of the lefties, and most of the righties in office right now is not based around their positions on issues - it's based upon the fact that they are taking up issues that have no fucking business being dealt with at the federal level in the first place....

...at least so sayeth the constitution.

If I hear him talking about reducing big business' influence on campaigns again I'm going to throw up. This from the guy with record breaking fund raising and huge donor lists from Citi, GS, JPM employees.

They're all assholes. Vote them all out. Get being your state legislature and support a 10th amendment resolution.

PS To all you assholes who think Bush did this, Google "Glass Steagall Act" and educate yourself.

HERE HERE
 


Obama is a terrible person and a sellout. He works for the banks and federal reserve bank. Use tax loopholes, and seperate yourself from Left Right, and Vote Ron Paul.

His belifes are terrible. Tax the rich they are evil. I bet alot of people on this forum have money and will agree with me that you shouldnt tax the rich higher because they make more money. The more you tax me the higher my service cost, and the less jobs i create. Basic economics but obama learned how to run an economy from Karl Marx.

Like you say, use loopholes.

Buffett blasts system that lets him pay less tax than secretary

Warren Buffett's Fellow Billionaires Don't Bite on Million Dollar Tax Challenge
 
Warren Buffett isnt that smart. He didnt predict the crash like peter schiff, ron paul and other people.

Buffett talks alot but i dont think he is that smart. Robert Kiyosaki is alot smarter then him and has said that he uses loopholes and he is able to hire more people and give money to charities.

Im sick of hearing about Buffett he is just like every other rich person who was poor. He was a libertarian then all the sudden he makes his money, and he wants to take care of everybody with government intervention.

Warren buffett made huge money thanks to the federal reserve printing trillions of dollars. Now he is like "Warren Buffett doesn't want Congress to "fool around" with the Federal Reserve's political independence, because it could lead to "a lot of mischief."

Warren Buffett to CNBC: Curbing Fed's Independence Could Lead to 'Mischief' - CNBC

He is an elite piece of shit just like bill gates. He is only rich because he used the same "cheats" if you want to call it that, which everybody today uses to become rich. He wants to shut it down so he can be the dad with all the money and were his slaves.

Fuck buffet hes an idiot who is just another elite who sold his soul to the devil.

"Of course Buffet doesn't want the Fed audited. We would find out that the banks he is invested in were given hundreds of billions of dollars from the Fed, our money.

He has no halo. This is a man who disowned his granddaughter because she talked about him publicly. Maybe Becky should ask him about that."
 
Both sides are fucked up. the only way we get out of this clusterfuck is by returning to the framers' concept of a VERY limited federal government, more rights and power to the states.

Like gay marriage? Great. Make it legal in your state. hate it? Move to OK. Same thing with health care.

My objection to Barack Whoblames Obama, all of the lefties, and most of the righties in office right now is not based around their positions on issues - it's based upon the fact that they are taking up issues that have no fucking business being dealt with at the federal level in the first place....

...at least so sayeth the constitution.

If I hear him talking about reducing big business' influence on campaigns again I'm going to throw up. This from the guy with record breaking fund raising and huge donor lists from Citi, GS, JPM employees.

They're all assholes. Vote them all out. Get being your state legislature and support a 10th amendment resolution.

PS To all you assholes who think Bush did this, Google "Glass Steagall Act" and educate yourself.

Agreed
 
So only the policies of the past eight years did this to our economy? Read some books and learn that policies over the last 40 years have contributed to the downturn. Take off the Che t-shirt and do some thinking for yourself. Yea, I know it was cool to sit around with all the other hipsters and bash Bush for shit you really don't understand but really it's kinda old. Find a new fad........ I heard standing around in busy traffic is what all the cool internet kids have been doing.

Nope, never said that it was only the policies of the last 8 years, you did.

Thanks!

What made the last 8 years intolerable to me was the flat out, bald faced, "we don't give a shit what people think anymore, we are blatantly screwing you, the constitution, and btw, stealing money while we are at it, all in the name of making you safe. We, the government know what is best."

Not tin foil hatting it on 9/11, but boy were they ready with legislation to lock stuff down and pressure those that didn't support it even though it trampled the bill of rights.

Politics has always been about backdoor deals, graft, etc . . it's just now it's being made legal while stripping citizen rights at the same time.
 
No, you're an idiot too that doesn't know the history. What you listed, aside from TARP, had nothing to do with any of this. I'm libertarian and don't support Bush's policies on "homeland security", but at least know what caused the collapse and what didn't.


All of the things listed were huge drains on the federal budget, capped off with TARP. The difference is that everything but TARP has to do with trampling citizens rights . . . and we fucking paid for it. Brilliant!

And those other programs (Halliburton and Blackwater are programs, war never declared) were shoved through in the name of patriotism and protecting apple pie and the flag.

At least I don't resort to calling you an idiot.
 
Both sides are fucked up. the only way we get out of this clusterfuck is by returning to the framers' concept of a VERY limited federal government, more rights and power to the states.

Like gay marriage? Great. Make it legal in your state. hate it? Move to OK. Same thing with health care.

My objection to Barack Whoblames Obama, all of the lefties, and most of the righties in office right now is not based around their positions on issues - it's based upon the fact that they are taking up issues that have no fucking business being dealt with at the federal level in the first place....

...at least so sayeth the constitution.

If I hear him talking about reducing big business' influence on campaigns again I'm going to throw up. This from the guy with record breaking fund raising and huge donor lists from Citi, GS, JPM employees.

They're all assholes. Vote them all out. Get being your state legislature and support a 10th amendment resolution.

PS To all you assholes who think Bush did this, Google "Glass Steagall Act" and educate yourself.

Here, I will help - Glass Steagull was repealed by this:

Gramm?Leach?Bliley Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Sponsored by Phil Gramm - who ironically enough, was going to be McCains appointee for Sec. of Treasury until he opened his mouth and called us whiners in summer of 2008 before the crash. Looks like he doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground since the market unwound 3 months later. And he was about to become Geithner . . . Currently works on Wall Street - fancy that.

And the wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round . .

GET RID OF ALL OF THEM!!!!

I wonder if it's illegal to park a guillotine in front of the Fed, Wall Street, and Congress. . . . You know, one of those mobile kinds you can put on the back of trailers.

The symbology might be enough to wake these people up.
 
I don't understand politics well but wouldn't the reason Obama got so much money in campaign donations from Health Insurance companies be because it was something he campaigned to (attempt) to reform while in office? Also, wouldn't the reason he got so much more campaign money from large corporations be because he was projected to win? Democrats like to increase taxes on huge businesses and increase regulations. Republicans cut taxes and lower business regulations. If I was a big corporation I would focus my lobbying money on the democratic candidate too.

Not being sarcastic, if my assumption doesn't make sense please correct me.

you're exactly right about the first part. he looked straight at us and campaigned on change while the people vested in the status quo were stuffing money into his wallet.

re the second part, meh the GOP isn't much better. bush spent like he was one one of his 70's booze and coke benders for 8 years.
 
If "don't ask don't tell" gets appealed don't expect it to last very long. Why in the hell do I have to know if some guy sucks dicks or not? While in the military I didn't go around and announce to every soldier that I like pussy! Why do fags fell it necessary to ADVERTISE what they like to fuck.

hahahaha