Welfare... Fucking pisses me off

Some things:


LOL! The federal minimum wage is $7.25/hr. Mississippi just doesn't have any additional minimum wage laws, which is why the author used that as an example. If he'd used a state that had additional minimum wage provisions, it would throw off being an across-the-board example.

From the Dept. of Labor page I just linked you to: "Many states also have minimum wage laws. Some state laws provide greater employee protections; employers must comply with both."
 


LOL! The federal minimum wage is $7.25/hr. Mississippi just doesn't have any additional minimum wage laws, which is why the author used that as an example. If he'd used a state that had additional minimum wage provisions, it would throw off being an across-the-board example.

From the Dept. of Labor page I just linked you to: "Many states also have minimum wage laws. Some state laws provide greater employee protections; employers must comply with both."

You're right, my bad. It's interesting that so many states have minimum wages lower than the federal minimum though.
 
Welfare is what we pay the poor to not kill us.

Once we take that option away we leave them no more options. Don't act like someone who is starving and can't feed their family wont risk their life in a last attempt to live.
 
You're right, my bad. It's interesting that so many states have minimum wages lower than the federal minimum though.

But...they don't. The federal law is the bare minimum. There are states that have additional minimums but no state can go under the minimum $7.25 per hour.

Unless its for service industry people, which is another racket entirely so I'll just leave that one alone.
 
We could always just kill the poor. Fire up the gas chambers bros.


"What's up, Hitler?"

"Aint nuthin, man. Dis juss how I do."

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Welfare is what we pay the poor to not kill us.

Once we take that option away we leave them no more options. Don't act like someone who is starving and can't feed their family wont risk their life in a last attempt to live.

As apposed to getting a job washing dishes in a restaurant? I don't think the entire carpet should be pulled from underneath them in 1 shot, but rather phased out.
 
As apposed to getting a job washing dishes in a restaurant? I don't think the entire carpet should be pulled from underneath them in 1 shot, but rather phased out.

Too much bureaucracy to ever phase anything out. It'd have to be done in one shot if it's going to get done at all. Also there aren't that many jobs in the ghetto because no one in their right mind wants to put a business there.
 
Here's a story from the reality of socialized health care. I wanted to get an allergi test done and went to my doctor who wrote me a referral. I wait for two weeks and then get a letter in the mail saying there was more than 10 months wait for such a test. This in a country supposed to be one of the richest pr. gdp/capita in the world.

Would you be ok with that?

I live in what some people call a developing country. I went in for an allergy test a couple of months ago. One of those tests where they put a matrix of potential allergans on your back and then measure the reactions. I already had an appointment at the hospital to see a foot specialist so I asked for an appointment at the allergist around the same time. I had to wait a little when I got there because it was pretty busy, so the doctor saw me 30 minutes late. But the test was done quickly and after another 30 minutes to allow time for skin reactions the doc examined it and gave me a run down of things I am allergic to. Total cost was US$20 - that is total without any insurance. This was at a public hospital so it was cheaper than the private hospitals here. I could have walked into a private hospital with no appiontment and had it done in plush surroundings while sipping a Starbucks from the lobby, but I was at the public hospital already.

Point of the story? None really, just trolling.
 
Originally Posted by adionline
What the fuck is this? I live in Canada and you can see a doctor the same day for FREE. So fuck that chart.


So that's why you have something called "wait list insurance" where you can buy insurance in case you have to leave the country for surgery due to the wait time being too long.

Canada’s wait list insurance phenomenon | The Medical Travel Site

Wait times are so bad that they have spawned a market for insurance.
 
Originally Posted by adionline
What the fuck is this? I live in Canada and you can see a doctor the same day for FREE. So fuck that chart.


So that's why you have something called "wait list insurance" where you can buy insurance in case you have to leave the country for surgery due to the wait time being too long.

Canada’s wait list insurance phenomenon | The Medical Travel Site

Wait times are so bad that they have spawned a market for insurance.

A broken blog page from 2009. Definitely a legit source.
 
A broken blog page from 2009. Definitely a legit source.
Works fine for me. Challenged are we?

YouTube video on the subject
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I'm in the same boat, luckily I've travelled a bit so I know I can live in Thailand or Northern Europe when teh SHTF, but it's still hard. I'll have to build a lot more savings up to get residency somewhere in Northern Europe, and I'll have to build up a LOT of heat tolerance to move to thailand...

it doesn't take long to get acclimatized, til then we have aircon too
 
There is insurance for all types of shit that you don't need insurance for. Hardly useful for your argument.

It's not *my* argument. It's a problem that is large enough that it spawned a new industry niche. The fact that the market brought forward a solution is a much stronger point than a couple of individuals' opinions on a forum.
 
Do you know any real welfare stats or are you just acting out like a child?

What percentage of the population is on welfare because of health reasons that are no fault of their own freak accident, freak disease etc ?

How long is the average person on welfare?

What percentage of people that come off welfare, stay off welfare?

What percentage of welfare people end up generating more taxes because they were guided through a job finding process and provided with clothes for an interview, tools etc.

My ex is a welfare case worker with the provincial government of Ontario. I know some serious shit about how it works here in Canada. It seems you are just stereotyping them into fat lazy drug users looking for handouts. Everybody gets handouts in life, some bigger than others sure, but everybody get some handouts.

I used to meet her for lunch and have been inside of the office many times. It's not just a bank teller handing out shit. They have a huge computer lab that is usually stocked full of people looking for jobs. Sure a few people surfing Facebook but they probably don't have internet at home and still have friends so that's understandable.

She dealt mostly with people who were new to welfare but were in the process of applying for a permanent disability program that pays roughly double what welfare does. 90% of people did not get approved. These are seriously fucking sick people. You had to get a doctor to fill out a 10 page document saying could never work again. If you found a doctor, and if the office approved your application, then it gets sent to Toronto where some committee votes on it roughly 6-9 months later.

If you got denied for super welfare you get hounded every month until you find a job. She would set up meetings for them at places that were willing to hire pretty much anybody. She was like a super headhunter for welfare people. If they didn’t go to the meetings or were deemed not actively trying to get a job they were suspended from the program. People got suspended like crazy every month. The first of the month is like Boxing Day at Best Buy at the welfare office. Everybody gets suspended and they all come in to find out why, some get back on, some don’t.

People will make bad decisions and end up not being able to pay the rent. Bad decisions are the foundation of our economy. Fast food, electronics, fucking everything. I bought a $200 kitchen knife the other day because I like to cook and chop shit like a samurai. My brother is a retard and thinks he can beat the casino at slot machines. He makes bad decisions all the fucking time. If people didn’t make bad decisions we’d have no affiliate networks because they wouldn’t have any offers aside from car insurance.
The welfare percentage isn’t growing exponentially and every country has people on welfare. Why are you getting mad a constant that you can’t change? While you’re at it you might as well get pissed at gravity.
There isn’t room on this planet for everybody to live comfy, so who cares what the fuck they do as long as they’re not burning down our comfy houses.

Governments spend billions on shit that is way more stupid than welfare. So accept that this is how it is and remember that for every 60 seconds you spend being a raging teenage faggot I’m spending 60 seconds accepting the world and laughing at how dumb you are.

Alternatively you can raise an army and kill everybody you think is different. Good luck bro.
 
American's who work for companies for all their life who lose all their benefits, pension, healthcare and turn around and say well that's the American way and think taking it in the ass is how it's meant to be. I didn't realise how retarded American's truly are until I read that book. Can't help but take pity on them when you're a person who gets to look at American from the outside in.

The only reason you should pity them is for being dumb enough to put all their eggs in one basket. Anyone who relies on a single source of retirement income isn't too bright. But hey, that's exactly the kind of mentality a welfare state perpetuates. Don't need to plan for my future, someone else has it taken care of.
 
Which country is that ? I have in mine like 5-6 groups of similar tests divided by vegetables, animals, fruits etc groups of allergens costing like $40 total. Also just one component of allergy costs like $5-$20, depends.

Done via blood, results after 3-4 days for package, 1-2 days for one component. All without any "wait".

P.S. If you need to wait for a doctor your country is more fucked up than 3rd world one.

I live in what some people call a developing country. I went in for an allergy test a couple of months ago. One of those tests where they put a matrix of potential allergans on your back and then measure the reactions. I already had an appointment at the hospital to see a foot specialist so I asked for an appointment at the allergist around the same time. I had to wait a little when I got there because it was pretty busy, so the doctor saw me 30 minutes late. But the test was done quickly and after another 30 minutes to allow time for skin reactions the doc examined it and gave me a run down of things I am allergic to. Total cost was US$20 - that is total without any insurance. This was at a public hospital so it was cheaper than the private hospitals here. I could have walked into a private hospital with no appiontment and had it done in plush surroundings while sipping a Starbucks from the lobby, but I was at the public hospital already.

Point of the story? None really, just trolling.