we are going to do a arbi test!

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Yeah test it out. In other previous arbitrage threads, it has seemed like clicksor has been complete crap for converting. It would be great if you can report back your findings.

Sure, no problem. I think they talked about it in this thread, and they said that its not as good as 7search, but its not as bad as the other guys. They still have yet to activate my campaign, so I'm guessing it will start on Monday.
 


Here's my first arbitration attempt. (best viewed in ie :updown:)

http://tv.smutism.com/

I was wondering if this could still be considered in the old way of doing things?

Is the new way just keeping everything above the fold and slapping relevant pictures up next to ads?
 
Here's my first arbitration attempt. (best viewed in ie :updown:)

http://tv.smutism.com/

I was wondering if this could still be considered in the old way of doing things?

Is the new way just keeping everything above the fold and slapping relevant pictures up next to ads?

Your isnt the old way. I've tried skyscrapers and personally they don't perform as well as squares. I'd say try switching it around a bit and using a square for one of the spots and test it between your skyscraper. Testing rules :) .

Although you should DEFINITELY implement pictures near your ads. It helps so much. And keep everything as a black background and make your google adsense urls blue as well, don't know why google makes it default as green :/ .

Good luck, I just started as well and am doing a lot of testing myself.
 
If I make a LLC, do I have to file tax on the money I made doing PPC Arbitrage?

If Google is reporting it the government will know about it.

Two things to know about business when it comes to what you should pay.

If you have employees, you pay them before ANYONE or ANYTHING else.

Work the system but always pay your taxes. The government can literally ruin your life in ways that nobody else is capable of doing.

Everyone else is negotiable. :)


Having your own business seems to risky for me...are there other ways I can get back on Adsense?

Actually the point of setting up an LLC is to remove the risk from you personally. So it is not too risky, it is less risky.
 
If Google is reporting it the government will know about it.

Two things to know about business when it comes to what you should pay.

If you have employees, you pay them before ANYONE or ANYTHING else.

Work the system but always pay your taxes. The government can literally ruin your life in ways that nobody else is capable of doing.

Everyone else is negotiable. :)




Actually the point of setting up an LLC is to remove the risk from you personally. So it is not too risky, it is less risky.

Hey aeiouy, thanks for answering my concerns. If you don't mind me asking, do you have a LLC?....when its comes to TAX time, do I file all the income I made with my "business"? Is it a lot of hassle to file taxes for my "business" if I do start one?

sorry for so many question, don't want to jump into something where I'll be screwing myself over with the government (tax-wise)
 
greenvy - you have to pay tax on anything you make as a business or individual. As an individual you are an independent contractor so you could file on April 15 and only pay a $35 (i think it is not much though)penalty for not filing quarterly. I would not not file quarterly if you are an LLC. I am involved with several LLC.'s and filing is not difficult. There are to many things to answer here you should talk to a pro to find what will work best for you. I am an employee of 1 LLC and for me that works best. You might just take a pay draw as needed. Again ask a pro, they are worth every penny!
 
greenvy - you have to pay tax on anything you make as a business or individual. As an individual you are an independent contractor so you could file on April 15 and only pay a $35 (i think it is not much though)penalty for not filing quarterly. I would not not file quarterly if you are an LLC. I am involved with several LLC.'s and filing is not difficult. There are to many things to answer here you should talk to a pro to find what will work best for you. I am an employee of 1 LLC and for me that works best. You might just take a pay draw as needed. Again ask a pro, they are worth every penny!

Was it hard to get a LLC?

since talking to a pro about LLC came up....IS there anyone who knows a lot about LLC? Would like to start one to get back into Adsense
 
greenvy I think it is like $400 and takes a couple weeks, sure there are people that know alot about llc's but I would not thake advice from anyone that is not an accountant or lawyer!
 
- For testing purposes, only 20 clicks per day
- Yes
- $.10

Thanks JamesH!

To double check:

By 20 clicks you mean the traffic amount received per day from Clicksor?

You paying Clicksor $0.10 per click or that is what you expect Adsense to pay you per click? :)
 
Here's my first arbitration attempt. (best viewed in ie :updown:)

http://tv.smutism.com/

I was wondering if this could still be considered in the old way of doing things?

Is the new way just keeping everything above the fold and slapping relevant pictures up next to ads?

You should remove the "More Projection TV Links:" above the ad on the left side. If google reviews your site, they'll have a big problem with this one. The only text you are allowed to have to label the ads is "sponsors" or "ads" (at least I think so).
 
greenvy I think it is like $400 and takes a couple weeks, sure there are people that know alot about llc's but I would not thake advice from anyone that is not an accountant or lawyer!

good idea, now I gotta find an accountant or a lawyer
 
hey I just went back and check out the Adsense sign up process and if I start my own business (LLC), Adsense still ask for my full-name and I know I'm caught right there and then! if I put my name.....how is making my one business suppose to get me an Adsense account when they're still gonna ask for my name?

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Thanks JamesH!

To double check:

By 20 clicks you mean the traffic amount received per day from Clicksor?

You paying Clicksor $0.10 per click or that is what you expect Adsense to pay you per click? :)

I have a cap set on my campaign to limit it to $2.00 a day for advertising, which means 20 clicks per day from Clicksor. As far as Adsense goes, we'll see what happens.
 
I have a cap set on my campaign to limit it to $2.00 a day for advertising, which means 20 clicks per day from Clicksor. As far as Adsense goes, we'll see what happens.

Thanks JamesH!

But paying $0.10 per click for an arbitrage site, that's a lot I think. I hope that Adsense pays enough to make some profit! :)
 
When you are doing adsense arbitradge do you opt in to the content network? When im doing ppc for sales or leads i usually dont use contextual ads at all, but i thought it might be different for adsesne arbi.
Ive done ok doing ppc for leads but have never been able to make a profit doing it with adsense. I just set up an account a 7search and am trying it there. I havent been able to get any clicks so far even though i am using 3000 keywords, but the market im going for is really competetive. Maybe ill have to up my cpc to higher than .06 or try a less competeive niche
 
What kind of volume per month minumums are you guys using for your keyword selection? I was bottom scraping but I dont want hundreds of accounts to keep up with all the keywords.
 
How you are you guys setting up keyword groups? I have created a wildcard arbitrage system, but my problem is that every keyword could have its own unique URL. I am struggling with how many closely related keywords do I use for each unique URL. I can't have 10k keywords and 10k urls - most systems would freak.

For this example - how many mortage terms are pointing to that one page?

Also what kind of ads are you guys finding work the best. ANY crazy add with the most CTR or something more relevant to the content you are displaying?

chad
 
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