They can do this in England because the citizens are unarmed!

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We've all heard of Islamic terms like 'Jihad' and 'Sharia' and 'Caliphate', but I've compiled a list of some lesser known terms.

This is the TRUE ISLAM:

Dhimmi: Humans of second class, referring to the 'People of the Book', i.e. Jews and Christians. They enjoy a provisional lodging right under Islamic dominance, are however subordinated in their civil liberties.

Jizyah (Jizhya): The name for the head-tax under Islamic rule extorted to the dhimmies. This must be handed over in obsequious way (including impacts on the necks).

Taqiyya (taqqiya): Falsehoods told to prevent the denigration of Islam, to protect oneself, or to promote the cause of Islam.

Muslimah: Woman.

I haven't added any opinions to these definitions. These are the base literal meanings of the terms (ie. at the dictionary level)

Yes, but why do these words exist?

They go to the heart of extremist (and even moderate) Muslim agenda/

I'm not really a religious guy..

But here's why..

In the history, the muslims rule countries
which of course also includes non-muslims..

These non-muslims in are referred to as Dhimmi.
They live together with other muslims and are protected just
like any other citizens. They are treated fairly.

They're not really treated as second-class citizens.
Heck, I think the definition you gave isn't accurate.

Here's a more accurate one.. Taken from Wikipedia

A dhimmi (Arabic: ذمي, collectively: أهل الذمة, ahl al-dhimma, the people of the dhimma or pact of protection, Ottoman Turkish zimmi) was a free, non-Muslim subject of a state governed in accordance with shariaIslamic law. A dhimmi is a person of the dhimma, a term which refers in Islamic law to a pact contracted between non-Muslims and authorities from their Muslim government. This status was originally only made available to non-Muslims who were People of the Book (i.e. Jews and Christians), but was later extended to include Sikhs, Zoroastrians, Mandeans, and, in some areas, Hindus[1] and Buddhists.[2][3] Dhimmi had more rights than other non-Muslim religious subjects, but fewer legal and social rights than Muslims.[4] This status applied to millions of people living from the Atlantic Ocean to India from the 7th century until modern times.[5] Over time, many dhimmis converted to Islam. Most conversions were voluntary and happened for a number of different reasons but forced conversion played a role in some later periods of Islamic history, mostly in the 12th century under the Almohad dynasty of North Africa and al-Andalus as well as in Persia where Shi'a Islam is dominant
Pretty good actually, considering that during those times.. when a king of a certain country with ABC religion takes control of another country.. ALL of the citizens of that country MUST convert to the ABC religion, or else face death, torture, expel, etc.

Islam does not force people to convert to Islam.

As for jizyah..

We, in Islam has this 'tax system' called zakat.. Every muslim has to pay for this 'tax'.. In the historic times the zakat is used as the main source for government funding and all sorts of stuff (just like any other kind of taxes now and before).

But, zakat is only for the muslims. So, what about the non-muslims living in the country? Don't they need to pay tax to the government too?

Yes, of course! And the tax for those non-muslims that live in the country aka dhimmi is called 'Jizyah'.

Taqiyya.. Y'know what's called 'white lie'? Something like that.

Muslimah. Muslim Woman. This is the arabic term.

Muslim --> Male Islam People.
Muslimah --> Female Islam People.

Mu'allim --> Male Teacher
Mu'allimah --> Female Teacher

etc etc. just add 'ah' and you got the female version of the word.

And yeah, like LazyHippy said.. You really SELECTIVELY choose which terms to translate and show to other people..

Well.. Just watch this vid will ya if you haven't..
And no, it's not some boring 'preaching' stuff.

I laughed all the way. But it'll open ya eyes.

YouTube - Vlog #9: Who Hijacked Islam??!
 


So at the time of the Spanish Inquisition and other persecution of 'heathens' across Europe by Christians, Islamic countries were giving non-Muslims a load of rights under their law... nice.

Oogie, you seem to be so paranoid, yet trusting of the Government and media. If you represent many people's view then it seems like they did a good job on September 11th. It wouldn't be the first time and won't be the last.

Remember when they told you Communism was a big threat too? When the US Government willingly paid Osama Bin Laden and the Mujihadeen to fight the soviets. Now look, Russia is getting more and more authoritarian again, and committing awful atrocities in Chechnya, but it's ok this time as they are fighting the same 'ism' as us.

Yesterday's enemy is today's ally and vice versa (but don't remember that)... the war goes on. Welcome to 1984.
 
Here.. Take a look at this..

YouTube - Vlog #9: Who Hijacked Islam??!

yup. i'm a muslim.

from malaysia. glad you liked my country :D

err.. I'm not the 'bad muslim' crowd though.

That vid is great. To whoever said show me Muslims against the messages shown by the protesters - watch this.

I loved Malaysia, I only visited Penang and Langkawi, but hope to see a lot more next year.

The 'bad Muslim' thing was said in jest - when they were having a drink. (A bit like 'bad Catholics' using condoms I guess.) To me that and the beautiful women with designer clothes and mascara under their burqas really emphasised how the west and Islam can mix and work well. The friendliness and tolerance of the people was obvious. Although it was kinda amusing seeing women wearing the burqa on jetskis!
 
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Paranoid?? a person suffering from paranoia.
Paranoia?? Psychiatry. a mental disorder characterized by systematized delusions and the projection of personal conflicts, which are ascribed to the supposed hostility of others, sometimes progressing to disturbances of consciousness and aggressive acts believed to be performed in self-defense or as a mission.

I guess you could qualify me as paranoid if the acts that the terrorists have done were only SUPPOSED but the acts of terrorists have been very real unless the media has photoshopped all the photos of death and destruction but that would mean I am paranoid of the media and we all know that they never lie, cheat, slant, or perform any kind of biased reporting.

Lazy, if anything I am too much of a realest. If those things are not real then by golly you are right and I am wrong and we both live. If I am right and you are wrong, I may be alive and you may not. I would rather take my chances with my owning a gun and protecting my family and myself on a local basis and trusting my government to protect me from forces outside my country.

By the way it is perfectly legal to own an assault rifle in the US. The only restriction is on full automatic rifles which do require a special permit. They shouldn't but they do. The permit requires law enforcement approval, special storage requirements and notification when the firearm is moved from the registered location even if the move is temporary. Oh, and a hefty license fee.
 
So at the time of the Spanish Inquisition and other persecution of 'heathens' across Europe by Christians, Islamic countries were giving non-Muslims a load of rights under their law... nice.

Oogie, you seem to be so paranoid, yet trusting of the Government and media. If you represent many people's view then it seems like they did a good job on September 11th. It wouldn't be the first time and won't be the last.

Remember when they told you Communism was a big threat too? When the US Government willingly paid Osama Bin Laden and the Mujihadeen to fight the soviets. Now look, Russia is getting more and more authoritarian again, and committing awful atrocities in Chechnya, but it's ok this time as they are fighting the same 'ism' as us.

Yesterday's enemy is today's ally and vice versa (but don't remember that)... the war goes on. Welcome to 1984.

Liberalism,socialism and political correctness will eventually lead to the downfall of Western civilization. Rome was taken down slowly from within and histroy will repeat itself.
 
Liberalism,socialism and political correctness will eventually lead to the downfall of Western civilization. Rome was taken down slowly from within and histroy will repeat itself.

i have a feeling overzealous ideologies such as the neocon movement will tear down america faster than liberalism will.

america needs change, a lot of change, so much change that i'm beginning to think a simple presidential election will not bring it about.
 
I guess you could qualify me as paranoid if the acts that the terrorists have done were only SUPPOSED but the acts of terrorists have been very real unless the media has photoshopped all the photos of death and destruction but that would mean I am paranoid of the media and we all know that they never lie, cheat, slant, or perform any kind of biased reporting.

Lazy, if anything I am too much of a realest. If those things are not real then by golly you are right and I am wrong and we both live. If I am right and you are wrong, I may be alive and you may not. I would rather take my chances with my owning a gun and protecting my family and myself on a local basis and trusting my government to protect me from forces outside my country.

I'm glad we share a mutual distrust of the media. Of course the pictures aren't photoshopped, but that's not to say they don't selectively pick which ones to print to support whatever they want us to believe.

If you are wrong and I'm right and we continue with this war on/of terror then you and I might live but thousands more innocent people won't. Keep going at this rate and American sons and daughters (I'm sure it's equal rights now) will be drafted to join the thousands already coming home in body bags.

The public might not accept conscription at the moment but it would only take another 9/11 to change their minds.

Much like how I don't see how owning a firearm would allow you to overthrow your government (without military backing - see above), I can't see how it would protect your family against terrorists. They aren't going to come at you with guns blazing, they are more likely to bomb a train station or a bus full of people. The only firearm that could be realistically carried everyday is a pistol and even that wouldn't be much good - surprise is the biggest weapon in the terrorist's arsenal.
 
huh...imagine that. Religion of all things fueling violence or is it the other way around? Violence fueling religion? Well considering they go hand in hand and you can't have one without the other I'm not shocked.
 
This is life... all people need something to believe in:bowdown:, and they will fight for their faith, being blind and so fanatic... so sad:offtopic:
 
The only firearm that could be realistically carried everyday is a pistol and even that wouldn't be much good - surprise is the biggest weapon in the terrorist's arsenal.

Lazy, we do agree on something. I do carry a handgun for personal protection. I also am certified to teach and certify others to carry. I wish all law abiding citizens carried. We would all be much more civil to one another.:thumbsup:
 
Lazy, we do agree on something. I do carry a handgun for personal protection. I also am certified to teach and certify others to carry. I wish all law abiding citizens carried. We would all be much more civil to one another.:thumbsup:

So if every single person was carrying a gun how would that make us be more civil towards each other? Certainly the man without a gun will be civil to the one with one, but that's due to fear and not respect.

So, were you agreeing that carrying a handgun wouldn't be much use against terrorists? (Or just agreeing that no other firearm could realistically be carried.)

I've used guns when I was kid (some handguns, SA-80s and older rifles on ranges and clay-pigeon shooting.. nothing dodgy!) and can see how they are needed in some countries for protection. The UK isn't one of those countries and I wouldn't have considered the US to be one either - but I've never been there so can only go by the (unreliable) media reports and statistics that it is as safe as here - maybe I'm wrong on that one.

I'm planning on travelling across Russia next year and for a stoned split-second considered some form of protection as I've heard various reports of robberies etc on the trans-Siberian express. I quickly realised that buying (probably blackmarket) in Moscow and carrying a handgun to China was a lot more risky than travelling without one!
 
Wow you guys are still arguing about this crap? Some of you must be REALLY fucking bored to be taking part in a lose-lose debate. Especialyl since it doesn't make you any money. Bleh.
 
I am a VERY firm believer in free speech, since in the US that is one of the most important stipulations of our constitution and bill of rights. However, I also believe in what my father always said: "You can (and should) exercise your free speech, but you should ALWAYS make sure that you are not doing so at the expense of the freedoms and/or rights of others." I also believe that to be true for exercising your right to practice your religion; practice your religion, but do not practice things that infringe on the freedoms and rights of your fellow countryman.
 
Wow you guys are still arguing about this crap? Some of you must be REALLY fucking bored to be taking part in a lose-lose debate. Especialyl since it doesn't make you any money. Bleh.

We are learning from each other... aren't we? I've certainly learnt stuff about Islam and different people's opinions and the reasoning being those opinions.

In my opinion you learn a lot more from discussing things with people who don't share the same view point as you... and I love a good debate!
 
Paranoid?? a person suffering from paranoia.
Paranoia?? Psychiatry. a mental disorder characterized by systematized delusions and the projection of personal conflicts, which are ascribed to the supposed hostility of others, sometimes progressing to disturbances of consciousness and aggressive acts believed to be performed in self-defense or as a mission.

I guess you could qualify me as paranoid if the acts that the terrorists have done were only SUPPOSED but the acts of terrorists have been very real unless the media has photoshopped all the photos of death and destruction but that would mean I am paranoid of the media and we all know that they never lie, cheat, slant, or perform any kind of biased reporting.

Lazy, if anything I am too much of a realest. If those things are not real then by golly you are right and I am wrong and we both live. If I am right and you are wrong, I may be alive and you may not. I would rather take my chances with my owning a gun and protecting my family and myself on a local basis and trusting my government to protect me from forces outside my country.

By the way it is perfectly legal to own an assault rifle in the US. The only restriction is on full automatic rifles which do require a special permit. They shouldn't but they do. The permit requires law enforcement approval, special storage requirements and notification when the firearm is moved from the registered location even if the move is temporary. Oh, and a hefty license fee.

Actually, paranoia is a form of self-aggrandization. "I am so important, they are after me!"

Altough terrorists are for real, they are not after your sorry ass.

Looking at some statistics, you are far more likely to die in a car accident than by a terrorist attack.

Oh... I know, we need to bomb them cars! All of them! They are a threat to us! Gather the troops, there is one outside of this building at THIS MOMENT!

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You know just last night here in the Austin, TX area in a town nearby, someone kicked in the back door to a house and broke in. There was someone home, and he was shot and killed. But at least the guy had a gun too, and shot the guy back in self-defense, critically injuring him. Now that's what I'm talking 'bout! Kick in my door? Threaten my freedom, my home, or my family in such a way? You'll pay dearly
 
What I'm saying is, I have no tolerance for some scummy thief, or someone making terrorist threats or people threatening another "holocaust" or "9/11". It makes me mad that the extreme muslims think it's ok to make fun of our religions, behead our innocent civilians, and then we write a "cartoon" making fun of their religion and that constitutes a holy war? I'm sorry, but extremists (not just muslim, but other religious extremists too) should all be put on a remote island with a hand knife and nothing else, and simply left there to fight it out. They want to die in the name of their religion , right? What better way? And then the rest of us in the world don't have to deal
 
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Actually, paranoia is a form of self-aggrandization. "I am so important, they are after me!"

Altough terrorists are for real, they are not after your sorry ass.

Looking at some statistics, you are far more likely to die in a car accident than by a terrorist attack.

Oh... I know, we need to bomb them cars! All of them! They are a threat to us! Gather the troops, there is one outside of this building at THIS MOMENT!

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PMSL!! Man, that made me laugh so hard I scared my cat!
 
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